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Posted by: michaelm (not logged in) ( )
Date: April 01, 2013 06:43AM

continued from filled post
http://exmormon.org/phorum/read.php?2,842542,842542#msg-842542

FAIR says that these prayers tell us about Book of Mormon geography.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eOGnSNzKlqQ

Apologists that make these crazy claims ignore the Kirtland Temple dedicatory prayer.

Kirtland Temple, 1836, Joseph Smith, D&C 109
http://www.ldschurchnews.com/articles/61752/Kirtland-Temple-And-let-thy-house-be-filled-as-with-a-rushing-mighty-wind-with-thy-glory.html
58 That from among all these, thy servants, the sons of Jacob, may gather out the righteous to build a holy city to thy name, as thou hast commanded them.
65 And cause that the remnants of Jacob, who have been cursed and smitten because of their transgression, be converted from their wild and savage condition to the fulness of the everlasting gospel;
66 That they may lay down their weapons of bloodshed, and cease their rebellions.

Joseph Smith wasn't talking about only Meso-America. In the end it becomes clear that Joseph Smith, Uchtdorf and all of the "mouthpieces of the Lord" are making it up. Apparently Uchtdorf has bought into FAIR's Meso-American nonsense.

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Posted by: michaelm (not logged in) ( )
Date: April 02, 2013 04:14PM

If anyone is interested, here is a complete list of all of the temple dedication prayers that have mentioned Book of Mormon people or Book of Mormon prophecies.

Tegucigalpa Honduras Temple, March 17, 2013, Uchtdorf
http://www.ldschurchnews.com/articles/63344/Tegucigalpa-Honduras-Temple-Touch-lives-and-hearts-of-those-seeking-the-message-of-truth.html
"Our hearts are filled with gratitude for Thy blessing of the sons and daughters of Lehi. Thou hast heard their cries and seen their tears. Thou hast accepted their righteous sacrifices."

Buenos Aires Argentina Temple, September 9, 2012, Henry B. Eyring
http://www.ldschurchnews.com/articles/62736/Buenos-Aires-Argentina-Temple-We-dedicate-our-lives.html
"We invoke on the people of this land the wonderful promises made by the Lord as recorded in the Book of Mormon for the righteous who are brought here by Thy Spirit."

Quetzaltenango Guatemala Temple, December 11, 2011, Uchtdorf
http://www.ldschurchnews.com/articles/61840/Quetzaltenango-Guatemala-Temple-Accept-our-thanks.html
"Thou kind and gracious Father, our hearts are filled with gratitude for Thy remembrance of the sons and daughters of Lehi. Thou hast heard their cries and seen their tears. Thou hast accepted their righteous sacrifices."

Cebu City Philippines Temple, June 13, 2010, Monson
http://www.ldschurchnews.com/articles/59496/Cebu-City-Philippines-Temple-We-are-in-a-nation-0-whose-people-love-truth.html
"We thank Thee for the promise found in the Book of Mormon that in the latter days Thou wouldst remember Thy children on the isles of the sea. We are in a nation of many islands, whose people love truth and whose hearts are responsive to the message of the eternal gospel."

Apia Samoa, September 4, 2005, Hinckley, (had been destroyed by fire during renovation and was rebuilt)
http://www.ldschurchnews.com/articles/47801/Apia-Samoa-A-sacred-house-again-in-Samoa.html
"In these islands of Samoa, Thou hast remembered Thine ancient promise "unto them who are upon the isles of the sea" (2 Nephi 10:21)"

Monticello Utah Temple, November 17, 2002, Hinckley
http://www.ldschurchnews.com/articles/42833/Monticello-Utah-The-virtue-and-value-of-these-smaller-temples-have-been-demonstrated.html
"We remember before Thee in a special way the sons and daughters of Father Lehi. May they rise to new levels of growth and prosperity as they embrace and follow the gospel of Thy Son. May they be magnified and enlarged in knowledge and testimony as they come to this sacred temple and receive the blessings to be had within these consecrated walls. May peace and love exist among all who live in this area."

Snowflake Arizona, March 3, 2002, Hinckley
http://www.ldschurchnews.com/articles/41429/Snowflake-Arizona-The-sweet-fruits-of-their-efforts.html
"We are grateful that this Thy house will be available to the sons and daughters of Lehi who live nearby. Let the scales of darkness fall from their eyes and bring a fulfillment of the ancient promises made concerning them."

Villahermosa Mexico Temple, May 21, 2000, Monson
http://www.ldschurchnews.com/articles/37865/VILLAHERMOSA-MEXICO-It-is-beautiful-to-look-upon.html
"May Thy eternal purposes concerning the sons and daughters of Lehi be realized in this sacred house. May every blessing of the eternal gospel be poured out upon them, and may the suffering of the centuries be softened through the beneficence of Thy loving care."

Cochabamba Boliva Temple, April 30, 2000, Hinckley
http://www.ldschurchnews.com/articles/37781/COCHABAMBA-BOLIVIA-Rise-to-the-glories-of-the-past.html
"We remember before Thee the sons and daughters of Father Lehi. Wilt Thou keep Thine ancient promises in their behalf. Lift from their shoulders the burdens of poverty and cause the shackles of darkness to fall from their eyes. May they rise to the glories of the past. May they recognize their Redeemer and be faithful and true Saints of the Most High. May they seek learning out of the best books (see D&C 88:118). May the enlightenment of education bring new and wonderful opportunities into their lives."

Tuxtla Gutierrez Mexico Temple, March 12, 2000, James E. Faust
http://www.ldschurchnews.com/articles/37373/TUXTLA-GUTIERREZ-MEXICO-Bring-new-light-and-understanding.html
"We invoke Thy blessings upon this nation of Mexico where so many of the sons and daughters of Father Lehi dwell. Bless these Thy children. Lift them out of the depths of poverty. Bring new light and understanding into their minds."

Madrid Spain Temple, March 19, 1999, Hinckley
http://www.ldschurchnews.com/articles/35412/Madrid-Spain-Temple-Our-hearts-are-filled-with-gratitude.html
"We are mindful that it was from these shores that Columbus sailed to discover America as foretold in the Book of Mormon."

Colonia Juarez Chihuahua Temple, March 6, 1999, Hinckley
http://www.ldschurchnews.com/articles/35364/Colonia-Juarz-Chihuahua-Temple-This-is-a-day-long-looked-forward-to.html
"May the sons and daughters of father Lehi grow in strength and in fulfillment of the ancient promises made concerning them. May there be constant peace between the cultures and may they dwell together with love and respect one for another."

Monticello Utah Temple, July 26, 1998, Hinckley
http://www.ldschurchnews.com/articles/30690/Monticello-Utah-Temple-Crowning-jewel-to-labors-of-the-past.html
"We remember before Thee in a special way the sons and daughters of Father Lehi. May they rise to new levels of growth and prosperity as they embrace and follow the gospel of Thy Son."

Vernal Utah Temple, November 2, 1997, Hinckley
http://www.ldschurchnews.com/articles/29147/Vernal-Utah-Temple-We-thank-Thee-for-this-sacred-structure.html
"May there come about a reconciliation of feelings between the descendants of Lehi and those who have come to reside in these valleys. May old animosities be dispelled, and may there come a renewed spirit of brotherhood and love and respect."

San Diego California Temple, April 25, 1993, Hinckley
http://www.ldschurchnews.com/articles/23445/San-Diego-California-Temple-May-we-bask-in----thy-divine-favor.html
"This temple will be used by many of the sons and daughters of Father Lehi. We thank thee for their faithfulness. We thank thee for this day when thou art remembering thine ancient covenant in behalf of these thy children, from whose eyes the shackles of darkness are now falling. Bless the posterity of Lehi, we pray thee. Lift from their weary shoulders the burdens of the past. Grant unto those who walk in faith an enlarged understanding of things divine as well as blessings of temporal peace and prosperity."

Buenos Aires Argentina Temple, January 17, 1986, Monson
http://www.ldschurchnews.com/articles/61694/Buenos-Aires-Argentina-Temple-Let-peace-prevail.html
"Wilt Thou, our Father, continue to bless the seed of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob and likewise the descendants of Lehi and Nephi, that the promises contained in the Holy Bible and in the Book of Mormon may be brought to fulfillment and our homes and families blessed abundantly."

Lima Peru Temple, January 10, 1986, Hinckley
http://www.ldschurchnews.com/articles/61695/Lima-Peru-Temple-We-thank-Thee-for-this-glorious-day-in-the-history-of-Thy-work.html
"We are particularly mindful this day of the sons and daughters of Lehi. They have known so much of suffering and sorrow in their many generations. They have walked in darkness and in servitude. Now Thou hast touched them by the light of the everlasting gospel. The shackles of darkness are falling from their eyes as they embrace the truths of Thy great work. Surely father Lehi has wept with sorrow over his posterity. Surely he weeps today with gladness, for in this holy house there will be exercised the fullness of the priesthood to the blessing, not only of those of this and future generations, but also to the blessing of those of previous generations."

"Remember, Father, Thine ancient covenant with the children of Lehi that in the latter days Thou wouldst favor them and bring to them a knowledge of their Redeemer. Make them strong in faith and magnify them in leadership in Thy kingdom."

Guatemala City Guatemala Temple, December 14, 1984, Hinckley
http://www.ldschurchnews.com/articles/61702/Guatemala-City-Guatemala-Temple-Now-the-yearnings-of-our-hearts-for-the-higher-blessings-of-the-gospel-may-be-realized.html
"Thou kind and gracious Father, our hearts swell with gratitude for Thy remembrance of the sons and daughters of Lehi, the many generations of our fathers and mothers who suffered so greatly and who walked for so long in darkness. Thou hast heard their cries and seen their tears. Now there will be opened to them the gates of salvation and eternal life."

"We thank Thee, O God, for lifting the scales of darkness which for generations clouded the vision of the descendants of Lehi. We thank Thee for the wondrous light of the gospel, restored in this dispensation through the instrumentality of Thy servant Joseph Smith, whom Thou didst ordain a prophet to the nations. We thank Thee for the glorious vision given him in the opening of this dispensation. We thank Thee for the restored record of our ancestors, the record of Lehi, Nephi and Jacob, of Alma and Mosiah, of Benjamin and Mormon and Moroni. We thank Thee for this voice which has come from the dust to bear witness of the divinity of Thy Beloved Son, the Lord Jesus Christ."

Manila Philippines Temple, September 25, 1984, Hinckley
http://www.ldschurchnews.com/articles/61705/Manila-Philippines-Temple-We-thank-Thee-for-their-spirit-of-sacrifice.html
"We thank Thee for the coming forth of the Book of Mormon as another witness of the reality and divinity of the Lord Jesus Christ. We thank Thee for the promise found therein that in the latter-days Thou wouldst remember Thy children on the isles of the sea."

Mexico City Temple, December 2, 1983, Hinckley
http://www.ldschurchnews.com/articles/61708/Mexico-City-Mexico-Temple-Prosper-us-as-we-walk-in-obedience-to-Thy-commandments.html
"Bless Thy saints in this great land and those from other lands who will use this temple. Most have in their veins the blood of Father Lehi. Thou hast kept Thine ancient promise. Many thousands "that walked in darkness have seen a great light."

Nuku'alofa Tonga Temple, August 9, 1983, Hinckley
http://www.ldschurchnews.com/articles/61711/Nukualofa-Tonga-Temple-We-thank-Thee-for-Thy-many-sons-and-daughters-of-Tonga-who-have-similarly-served-with-great-devotion.html
"We thank Thee for the coming forth of the Book of Mormon with its record of the forebears of the people of Tonga."

Apia Samoa Temple, August 5, 1983, Hinckley
http://www.ldschurchnews.com/articles/61712/Apia-Samoa-Temple-We-thank-Thee-for-Thy-marvelous-and-generous-blessings.html
"Jacob, son of Lehi, declared anciently: "Great are the promises of the Lord unto them who are upon the isles of the sea." We have witnessed the fulfillment of Thy covenant, for Thou hast not forgotten them."

Sao Paulo Brazil Temple, October 30, 1978, Spencer W. Kimball
http://www.ldschurchnews.com/articles/61716/Sao-Paulo-Brazil-Temple-We-also-thank-Thee-our-Father-for-the-perfect-organization-of-Thy-Church-today.html
"We thank Thee that Thou didst bring Father Lehi and his family to this land of promise and Thou didst establish Thy people, the Nephites and the Lamanites and their Book of Mormon."

Laie Hawaii Temple, June 13, 1978, Spencer W. Kimball
http://www.ldschurchnews.com/articles/61729/Laie-Hawaii-Temple-We-thank-Thee-our-Holy-Father-for-all-of-the-temples-that-have-been-erected-in-this-last-dispensation.html
"And we are duly grateful, our Heavenly Father, that as stated in the Book of Mormon "that the Lamanites might come to the knowledge of their fathers and that they might know the promises of the Lord, and that they may believe the gospel and rely upon the merits of Jesus Christ, and be glorified through faith in His name, and that through their repentance they might be saved." We are deeply grateful, our Heavenly Father, that some half a million or more of the descendants of Lehi now are respected and loved members of this, Thy kingdom."

Mesa Arizona Temple, April 15, 1975, Kimball
http://www.ldschurchnews.com/articles/61726/Mesa-Arizona-Temple-We-praise-Thy-Holy-Name-our-Beloved-Father.html
"Thou didst acknowledge the role of the Lamanite, especially in this temple, and numerous of the sons and daughters of Lehi have found in these sacred precincts peace, knowledge and solace to their souls."

"We are grateful, our Father, that in these years have come to this temple numerous of Thy beloved Indian people of many tribes in their newly discovered way of life. Many children of Lehi have traveled long distances from other lands at great expense and sacrifice, especially in the borders of old Mexico, and numerous families have been welded together for eternity."

"We are grateful for the preservation of the sacred records from which the Book of Mormon came to the Lamanites and to us with all its glorious untrammeled truths, to show to the House of Israel "…that they may know the covenants of the Lord…and also to the convincing of the Jew and Gentile that Jesus is the Christ, the Eternal God…""

"Our Father in heaven, our hearts go out to the Lamanites, Thy chosen of Israel. Give them listening ears and understanding hearts. Let them believe that they may commune with Thee and rid themselves of all "other gods" and superstitions and fears; let them grow mighty in Thy cause. Bless them that they may know Thy covenants, that they may believe the gospel and rely upon the mercies of Thy Son, Jesus Christ, and be glorified through faith in His name, and that through their repentance they may be exalted."

Washington DC Temple, November 19, 1974, Spencer W. Kimball
http://www.ldschurchnews.com/articles/61717/Washington-DC-Temple-Please-forgive-us-our-trespasses-as-we-totally-repent.html
"Our Father in heaven, our hearts go out to the Lamanites. Give them listening ears and understanding hearts. Let them believe; cause that they may commune with thee and rid themselves of all "other gods" and superstitions and fears; let them grow mighty in thy cause. Bless them that they may know the covenants of the Lord, that they may believe the gospel and rely upon the merits of Jesus Christ, and be glorified through faith in his name, and that through their repentance they might be saved."

Ogden Temple, January 18, 1972, Joseph Fielding Smith
http://www.ldschurchnews.com/articles/61719/Ogden-Utah-Temple-Father-we-have-in-our-hearts-the-spirit-of-praise-and-thanksgiving-and-worship.html
"Wilt thou, O Lord, remember thy covenants with Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob concerning their seed; and with Lehi and Nephi and thy "other sheep" on the American continent; that their descendants should have the blessings of the gospel, "which are the blessings of salvation, even of life eternal." Cause that the scattered remnants of thine ancient chosen people may open their hearts to the message of those living prophets whom thou dost now send to them."

Hamilton New Zealand Temple, April 20, 1958, McKay
http://www.ldschurchnews.com/articles/61722/Hamilton-New-Zealand-Temple-We-are-grateful-that-into-the-hearts-of-all-Thou-hast-implanted-the-divine-gift-of-free-agency.html
"We express gratitude that to these fertile Islands Thou didst guide descendants of Father Lehi, and hast enabled them to prosper, to develop and to become associated in history with leading and influential nations among mankind."

Idaho Falls Temple, September 23, 1945, George Albert Smith
http://www.ldschurchnews.com/articles/61725/Idaho-Falls-Idaho-Temple-We-pray-for-the-youth-everywhere.html
"O Father, remember Thy promises made unto Thy holy prophets regarding the remnants of those whom Thou didst lead unto this western hemisphere, that they should not be utterly destroyed but that a remnant should be preserved which would turn from their wickedness, repent of their sins, and eventually become a white and delightsome people. May the day speedily come when those promises will be fulfilled."

Mesa Arizona Temple, October 23, 1927, Heber J. Grant
http://www.ldschurchnews.com/articles/61727/Mesa-Arizona-Temple-We-thank-Thee-for-this-land-of-liberty-in-which-we-dwell.html
"We beseech Thee, O Lord, that Thou wilt stay the hand of the destroyer among the descendants of Lehi who reside in this land and give unto them increasing virility and more abundant health, that they may not perish as a people but that from this time forth they may increase in numbers and in strength and in influence, that all the great and glorious promises made concerning the descendants of Lehi may be fulfilled in them; that they may grow in vigor of body and of mind, and above all in love for Thee and Thy Son, and increase in diligence and in faithfulness in keeping the commandments which have come to them through the gospel of Jesus Christ, and that many of them may have the privilege of entering this holy house and receiving ordinances for themselves and their departed ancestors."

Cardston Alberta Temple, August 26, 1923, Heber J. Grant
http://www.ldschurchnews.com/articles/61728/Cardston-Alberta-Temple-Bless-Thy-people-in-all-parts-of-the-world.html
"We beseech Thee, O Lord, that Thou wilt stay the hand of the destroyer among the descendants of Lehi, who reside in this land, and give unto them increasing virility and more abundant health, that they may not perish as a people, but that from this time forth they may increase in numbers and in strength and in influence, that all the great and glorious promises made concerning the descendants of Lehi, may be fulfilled in them; that they may grow in vigor of body and of mind, and above all in love for Thee and Thy Son, and increase in diligence and in faithfulness in keeping the commandments which have come to them through the gospel of Jesus Christ, and that many of them may yet have the privilege of entering this holy house and receiving ordinances for themselves and their departed ancestors."

Laie Hawaii Temple, November 27, 1919, Heber J. Grant
http://www.ldschurchnews.com/articles/61730/Laie-Hawaii-Temple-We-beseech-Thee-that-no-unclean-thing-shall-be-permitted-to-enter-here.html
"We thank Thee that the plates containing the Book of Mormon were preserved so that they could be translated, and that Thy words to the Prophet Joseph Smith might be fulfilled; namely, "That the Lamanites might come to the knowledge of their fathers, and that they might know the promises of the Lord, and that they may believe the gospel and rely upon the merits of Jesus Christ, and be glorified through faith in His name, and that through their repentance they might be saved."

"We thank Thee, that thousands and tens of thousands of the descendants of Lehi, in this favored land, have come to a knowledge of the gospel, many of whom have endured faithfully to the end of their lives. We thank Thee, our Father and our God, that those who are living and who have embraced the gospel are now to have the privilege of entering into this holy house, and laboring for the salvation of the souls of their ancestors."

"We beseech Thee, O Lord, that Thou wilt stay the hand of the destroyer among the natives of this land, and give unto them increasing virility and more abundant health, that they may not perish as a people, but that from this time forth they may increase in numbers and in strength and influence, that all the great and glorious promises made concerning the descendants of Lehi, may be fulfilled in them; that they may grow in vigor of body and of mind, and above all in a love for Thee and Thy Son, and increase in diligence and in faithfulness in the keeping of the commandments which have come to them through the gospel of Jesus Christ."

Salt Lake Temple, April 6, 1893, Wilford Woodruff
http://www.ldschurchnews.com/articles/61688/Salt-Lake-Temple-O-Lord-we-regard-with-intense-and-indescribable-feelings-the-completion-of-this-sacred-house.html
"Remember in like pity the dwindling remnants of the House of Israel, descendants of Thy servant Lehi. Restore them we pray Thee, to Thine ancient favor, fulfill in their completeness the promises given to their fathers, and make of them a white and delightsome race, a loved and holy people as in former days."

Manti Temple, May 21, 1888, Lorenzo Snow
http://www.ldschurchnews.com/articles/61732/Manti-Utah-Temple-May-this-delightful-location-be-known-as-a-holy-hill-of-Zion-among-Thy-people.html
"Thy people being under a sense of these weighty obligations, and being driven out from among men, it seemed proper to Thee to make Thy servant Brigham mighty in wisdom and strength to lead Thy people in safety, and after a year and a half's journey in the desert among savage tribes, Thou didst give us rest in these valleys of the Rocky Mountains."

Kirtland Temple, March, 27 1836, Joseph Smith (D&C 109)
http://www.ldschurchnews.com/articles/61752/Kirtland-Temple-And-let-thy-house-be-filled-as-with-a-rushing-mighty-wind-with-thy-glory.html
58 That from among all these, thy servants, the sons of Jacob, may gather out the righteous to build a holy city to thy name, as thou hast commanded them.
65 And cause that the remnants of Jacob, who have been cursed and smitten because of their transgression, be converted from their wild and savage condition to the fulness of the everlasting gospel;
66 That they may lay down their weapons of bloodshed, and cease their rebellions.

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Posted by: Jesus Smith ( )
Date: April 08, 2013 04:24PM

That is fantastic!! Thanks Michael.

I'm archiving this.

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Posted by: davidlkent ( )
Date: April 02, 2013 04:17PM

Too much information!!! And who was "Lehi cont"?

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Date: April 02, 2013 04:23PM


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Posted by: donbagley ( )
Date: April 02, 2013 08:22PM

Ja, und Pukedork ist eine wasserkopf mannikin. ( a water-head showroom dummy)

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