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Posted by: baura ( )
Date: June 24, 2012 12:26AM

How could a book produced a couple of thousand years after an event, and without the help of modern archaeology, get something right about a detail of an ancient time? The only conclusion is that the author (or translator) of the book had Divine help--the book MUST be from God.

For years a certain passage in the book was ignored but only under the light of modern scholarship has a connection going back thousands of years been established. A name carved on a stone PROVES that the Book MUST be exactly what it claims to be--divine.

Of course the book I'm talking about is the Quran. In the Quran the battle of wits between Pharaoh and Moses is discussed. In a few of the passages the Quran has the Pharaoh telling his minister, Haman, to do something.

Only in modern times after the deciphering of ancient Egyptian hierglyphs has it been found that there actually WAS an official in ancient Egypt named Haman. In Vienna there is a stone with a funeral inscription for a governor named "Haman."

Of course, since ancient Egyptian didn't use vowels the name is written "Hmn," but this is a small thing to quibble about.

So if Mormons claim that three consonants on a stone in Yemen PROVE the Book of Mormon then they must accept that three consonants on an ancient Egyptian funeral inscription currently residing in a museum in Vienna PROVES the Quran also.

Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 06/24/2012 01:41AM by baura.

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Posted by: PapaKen ( )
Date: June 24, 2012 12:36AM

Amazing "proof!"

I used to live in Vienna. But I never saw that "Hmm" stone. Where exactly is it?

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Posted by: baura ( )
Date: June 24, 2012 01:45AM

The stone is in the “Kunsthistorisches Museum” in Vienna.

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Posted by: xyz ( )
Date: June 24, 2012 09:04AM

"Things that make you say 'Hmn'."

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Posted by: scooter ( )
Date: June 24, 2012 09:21AM

yes there were no vowels back then. But that's no reason to make them up. His name is just Stan. Like his brother, Jess.

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Posted by: xyz ( )
Date: August 01, 2012 10:51PM



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Posted by: drwal ( )
Date: August 01, 2012 10:53PM

Exact same logic. You are right by Mormon reasoning,the Quran is true.

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Posted by: nickname ( )
Date: August 02, 2012 01:16AM

Are we sure we haven't actually discovered the burial place of He-man? After all, that would use the same consonants, and "prove" correct a set of beliefs that are just as logical.

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Posted by: Raptor Jesus ( )
Date: August 02, 2012 01:21AM

Not sure if they are from god...but some of them claim you will think you've met him afterwards.

...but after what???

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Posted by: spanner ( )
Date: August 02, 2012 02:41AM

The Muslim apologists are up to the same tricks as the Mormon apologists I think. The Haman stone story originated from Harun Yahya - possibly a group of people publishing under one name - think DCP (and brethren) in a turban. Free Inquiry magazine has been featuring this guy (these guys?) lately.

The author of the Quran made a few of the same errors Joseph did when incorporating extra-biblical myths, and had the disadvantage of probably only having oral renditions of some Jewish myths. He conflated parts of the Exodus and the Exile, and modern Islamic apologists are weaving cobwebs, over a millennia later, to try to keep internet savvy Muslims faithful.

Check out the issue with the Haman Stone here, and be gob-smacked at the similarities:

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Posted by: spanner ( )
Date: August 02, 2012 03:44AM

My mistake - Harun Yahya was plagiarizing an earlier apologist. Who would have thought!

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Posted by: EssexExMo ( )
Date: August 02, 2012 04:52AM

A stopped clock is right twice a day.

this is the old clairvoyant/medium tactic that, if you throw enough information out, then some of it will be right.
people tend to remember the few 'hit's and forget the million 'misses'.

one hit to a million misses - as a wise woman once said: "That don't impress me much"

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