Posted by: gemini ( )
Date: February 12, 2011 11:47AM
My, My, My. Seems that Zion's Bank got spanked by the
feds for lack of proper anti-money laundering controls. This is a very
big deal because literally billions of dollars got wired around the
world over the years through Zions and a lot of it was probably dirty.
Hey, maybe that's where the cash came from to build City Creek!
Remember no tithing money was used.....hehehe.
Posted by: weeder ( )
Date: February 12, 2011 12:28PM
http://www.sltrib.com/sltrib/money/51235852-79/bank-zions-suspicious-money.html.csp
... "suspicious wire transfers of billions of dollars related to
transactions that may have involved drug trafficking and other crimes"
...
Doesn't shock me in the least.
Posted by: weeder ( )
Date: February 12, 2011 12:49PM
From Aug. 2010
http://www.deseretnews.com/article/700060512/Zions-Direct-fined-for-failure-to-disclose-relationship-with-bidder.html
And from Oct. 2010
http://www.sltrib.com/sltrib/money/50212370-79/zions-lam-woodwell-business.html.csp
And you just have to love this comment from the Pres. of Zions:
______
....James Abbott, senior vice president in charge of Zions’ investor
relations, said the missteps resulted from clerical oversights that
don’t add up to a pattern of willful misbehavior.
“While it’s disappointing, we work very hard to maintain a culture of
compliance and are very careful,” Abbott said.
_______
And now they are caught money laundering 12.9 BILLION dollars in 138
transactions !!! That's a lot of dough in a very few transactions --
can anybody say "cartel" or "mafia"?
Posted by: Every Member a Janitor
( )
Date: February 12, 2011 01:22PM
February 10th:
Utah Bank Zions Plans To Sell $200M In Stock
http://online.wsj.com/article/BT-CO-20110210-720167.html
Zions Bancorporation Announces Entry Into New Equity Distribution
Agreements
http://www.prnewswire.com/news-releases/zions-bancorporation-announces-entry-into-new-equity-distribution-agreements-115771424.html
AND THE VERY NEXT DAY.....
February 11th:
US Fines Zions Bancorp Unit $8M On Money Laundering Rules
http://online.wsj.com/article/BT-CO-20110211-711576.html
Posted by: OnceMore ( )
Date: February 12, 2011 02:03PM
I think it is a mistake to assume that Zions Bank is
no longer a mormon institution. Yes, it's traded on the stock
exchange, but most of the members of the Board of Directors are
mormons, the lawyers that represent them are mormons, and the current
Profit, Tommy Monson, still goes out to "bless" new branches.
http://www.deseretnews.com/article/700032512/President-Thomas-S-Monson-dedicates-Zions-Bank-Financial-Center.html
The current fines represent 138 transactions, which works out to an
average of about 9 million per transaction. These are not small-time
Mexican immigrants sending money home, as some doofus in the SL
Tribune readers' comments section claimed. Looks like mormon mafia to
me.
As far as the comment from Carol Y. [comments section of the Tribune] goes about not stealing because
the government doesn't want competition, how do you square that
comment with the fact that Zions Bank took 1.4 billion in TARP money
from the government, and that Zions Bank is one of the few recipients
of TARP money that has not paid any of that money back to tax payers
like Carol Y.?
http://bailoutsleuth.com/news/2010/07/as-tarp-begins-winding-down-big-debt-remain/
See #8 in the list on the website page at the above link.
Also see Feb. 3, 2011 Business Week:
http://www.businessweek.com/
Posted by: Jim Huston ( )
Date: February 12, 2011 02:48PM
An interesting side note. Their last 10K (annual
report to the government) is required to be available to the public.
It can be seen at
http://quote.morningstar.com/stock-filing/Annual-Report/2009/12/31/t.aspx?t=&ft=10-K&d=4fecc266640c83c5a9892f30a8d7ab97
The interesting thing about this report is that two sections are
absent and refer to a separate, subsequent filing which is not public.
ITEM 12. SECURITY OWNERSHIP OF CERTAIN BENEFICIAL OWNERS AND
MANAGEMENT AND RELATED STOCKHOLDER MATTERS
Other information required by Item 12 is incorporated by reference
from the Company’s Proxy Statement to be subsequently filed.
ITEM 13. CERTAIN RELATIONSHIPS AND RELATED TRANSACTIONS, AND DIRECTOR
INDEPENDENCE
Incorporated by reference from the Company’s Proxy Statement to be
subsequently filed.
They have effectively gotten around the public reporting requirement
to report related party transactions, insider trading and board
independence.
Posted by: mckay ( )
Date: February 12, 2011 12:06PM
. . . which got Joseph Smith and Signey Rigdon fined
by court judgment, as well as hit with other lawsuits:
http://www.utlm.org/onlineresources/josephsmithsbank.htm
Posted by: helemon ( )
Date: February 12, 2011 12:12AM
Posted by: wine country girl
( )
Date: February 12, 2011 05:07PM
" The church does not have a majority interest in this bank anymore-- since 1960. Maybe they would have done better if it had and not been slapped with penalties."
Posted by: mckay ( )
Date: February 12, 2011 05:20PM
That's true WCG, but that's where the church puts
it's money according to Monson:
"You can rest assured that this church doesn't put its investments and
its confidence in anything that isn't stable, honorable and (having) a
record of performance and integrity," he said.
This from the web site of Monson dedicating the new Zion's Bank in
Provo. "...a record of performance and integrity," Now I am confused.
Posted by: wine country girl
( )
Date: February 12, 2011 06:01PM
Am I wrong to take such gleeful delight when putting a
morgbot on the defensive?
Posted by: lostinutah ( )
Date: February 12, 2011 06:47PM
All but two of its board members are Mormons.
Posted by: get her done (
)
Date: February 12, 2011 06:17PM
The mormon church is the largest loan client the bank has... What does that tell you about the loss of Zion;s bank, and now its multimillion dollar Federal fines for money laundering??
Posted by: SusieQ#1 ( )
Date: February 12, 2011 07:02PM
I worked in banks for years. In the past decades there
were new rules on deposits of a single $10,000, or a combination that
equaled $10,000 or more, especially in one day. Those would trigger
special forms to be filled out.
I can't imagine what they were doing with wire transfers of:
"billions of dollars related to transactions that may have involved
drug trafficking and other crimes."
Notice the word: "may" -- there is no evidence of a crime or drug
trafficking in this report. It probably just involves sloppy paperwork
or missing paperwork.
Posted by: Flanders ( )
Date: February 12, 2011 08:07PM
How much paperwork is involved in a wire transfer? I thought the whole idea behind a wire transfer was to limit paperwork transactions. I'm not a banker...just asking.
Posted by: snb ( )
Date: February 12, 2011 08:26PM
Anybody who equates Zion's bank with Mormonism in general is missing the point. Both of them are businesses, and because of that, they are vastly separate.
Posted by: mckay ( )
Date: February 12, 2011 08:41PM
Yes, maybe vastly separate. But then why was Monson
[current Mormon prophet] in Provo at the dedication of the new Zion's
Bank? That has always been strange to me for a church president to
dedicate and pray over a private business.
http://www.deseretnews.com/article/700032512/President-Thomas-S-Monson-dedicates-Zions-Bank-Financial-Center.html
Posted by: Compliance Person
( )
Date: February 12, 2011 08:32PM
The report SusieQ mentioned is for CASH deposits of
over $10000. Zions didn't mess up on those reports. Cash deposits
weren't even part of their problem. And I disagree that this was a
simple matter of misfiled or sloppy paperwork.
I've worked in financial institution compliance for over 15 years and
specialize in the requirements for the Bank Secrecy Act (the law Zions
violated). It appears that Zions did not have proper monitoring
procedures in place for detecting suspicious deposits made via remote
deposit capture or for detecting suspicious wire transfers. Zions did
their own review once the realize they had a problem and agreed the
transactions were suspicious.
You have to realize that a bank as large as Zions processes thousands
of these transactions every day. I don't believe for a second that the
bank knowingly processed money laundering related transactions, but
they didn't have systems in place to detect them either. THAT is what
they got fined for.
Financial institutions have to proactively look for suspicious
transactions and report them immediately. It doesn't matter if
transactions were actually related to money laundering. The failure
happened when they didn't detect the suspicious transactions and
report them.
Posted by: SusieQ#1 ( )
Date: February 12, 2011 09:33PM
Re: Zion's Bank Fined
I appreciate your more thorough explanation of what the fine was
about.
I don't know how they managed to not have proper policies in place.
That part was sloppy.
Posted by: ExMormonRon (
)
Date: February 12, 2011 10:21PM
Why do you guys keep tying this bank to the morg?
Other than it's roots, there's virtually no significant relationship
anymore. FRM, Wells Fargo and Vanguard are the largest shareholders.
It's a non-issue.
Secondly, virtually every major bank in the US has been fined for
non-SAR reporting in Mexico. Again, a non-issue. Exchange houses in
Mexico are common entities and, until recently, banks haven't been
filing the requisite Suspicious Activities Reports. Now they will.
Union Bank, Wells Fargo, Wachovia, Citibank, US Bank... all have been
fined.
Ron
Posted by: Emmas Flaming Sword
( )
Date: February 13, 2011 12:18AM
Monson dedicated the new head quarters last year.
Posted by: Surprised ( )
Date: February 12, 2011 10:36PM
... and founded by the LDS Church, and run by LDS church members, and into which the LDS Church chooses to deposit its money, would be a little different from all the others which also got fined. I guess not. Do you see the point?
Posted by: Hoggle ( )
Date: February 13, 2011 12:37AM
Does anyone have a transcript of the Provo dedicatory
prayer? These are about all I can find.
http://www.ldschurchnews.com/articles/59370/A-shining-star-in-business-community.html
http://universe.byu.edu/node/8421
Posted by: Emmas Flaming Sword
( )
Date: February 13, 2011 12:40AM
"You can rest assured that this church doesn't put its investments and its confidence in anything that isn't stable, honorable and (having) a record of performance and integrity," he said. Tommy Monson
Posted by: Hoggle ( )
Date: February 13, 2011 01:12AM
I found this one from Hinckley on the Salt Lake
dedication:
http://www.deseretnews.com/article/660192259/Zions-Bank-hails-rededicated-site.html
"We commend those who made the
decision to locate the bank and its associated properties in this
location," he said. "May it ever be a bright and shining star in the
business community of Salt Lake City, and may its influence extend and
be felt across the nation."
"This is a cornerstone property of the City Creek project," Huntsman
said.
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