Subject: My [Mormon] Grandparents are stalkers!!!!
Date: Sep 03 15:25 2003
Author: Bewildered

You may have read some of my previous posts of my Grandparents weekly e-mails from the mission field....Got another today and here is a part of it....

"We have been making our regular calls to the inactives. Sometimes we give a discussion, sometimes we just talk, we always try to read a scripture and have a prayer, sometimes we show a video. We are trying to determine the personal spiritual needs of each family and individualize what we do to meet their needs. We went to see one single sister who has three big sons. She used to be active, but has fallen away. Once we talked to her by her car which was parked on the street. Another time we went to her work and talked to her briefly. We have knocked on her door many times, but have never made it inside the house. We went again this week. One of the boys answered the door. He only opened it a couple of inches and we couldn't even see his face. He said his mother was sleeping. We asked if we could talk to him. He claimed to be too busy. All the time the door kept closing more and more. When we asked if he had just a few minutes to talk about Jesus Christ and Heavenly Father he told us no and the door closed. We try not to take this kind of thing personally, but it is hard, knowing that they are truly the loosers."

THIS POOR WOMAN...THEY WENT TO HER WORK???!!!!!!! CALL THE POLICE AND GET A RESTRAINING ORDER!!! THAT IS JUST GOING WAY TOO FAR!

Subject: My ex had a great line for the JWs once...
Date: Sep 03 15:47
Author: Mystic

Two elderly JW women came to our door, and said "We'd like to talk to you about luuuuv!" My ex said "I'm not interested." The women replied, in a shocked tone, "You're not interested in LUUUUUUV?" "No," my ex replied, "I'm just not interested in hearing YOU talk about it!"

One of his more admirable moments.

Subject: Re: My Grandparents are stalkers!!!!
Date: Sep 03 16:02
Author: Will (the one with the crazed MIL)
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> "We went to see one single sister who has three big sons. She used to be active, but has fallen away. Once we talked to her by her car which was parked on the street. Another time we went to her work and talked to her briefly. We have knocked on her door many times, but have never made it inside the house. We went again this week. One of the boys answered the door. He only opened it a couple of inches and we couldn't even see his face. He said his mother was sleeping. We asked if we could talk to him. He claimed to be too busy. All the time the door kept closing more and more. When we asked if he had just a few minutes to talk about Jesus Christ and Heavenly Father he told us no and the door closed. We try not to take this kind of thing personally, but it is hard, knowing that they are truly the loosers."

>


Three things leap off the screen at me here, all of which are salient traits of the cult-hardened mind.

The first is the fact that your grandparents, like all Morg assimilation drones (e.g. "missionaries"), have NO respect for personal boundaries: Because what they do is RIGHT and TRUE, they aren't restricted by a sense of propriety, decency, and respect for limits.

The second trait is the inversion of sympathy, from the prey to the predator. They try not to take it "personally" when the objects of their unwanted (and unwarranted) harassment choose not to submit to the harassment.

The third aspect of this letter that catches my eye is the implied assumption that they are dealing with -- to use the word again -- objects, rather than people; objects to be "processed" into dutiful Morglets, rather than people with individual wills, desires, opinions, insights, and dignity.


Subject: Agreed, they totally treat people like objects...
Date: Sep 03 16:37
Author: Bewildered

A point brought up from the letter I posted last week! Here is an example of them treating someone like "objects, rather than people; objects to be "processed" into dutiful Morglets, rather than people with individual wills, desires, opinions, insights, and dignity." (from will's post)

Ex. from letter:
"We took a recently baptized sister, her daughter and the daughter's black boyfriend to the DC visitor's center. The young sister missionaries do such a great job explaining all of the exhibits. We saw the Dead Sea Scrolls exhibit and the movie, "The Testaments". The daughter, 24 years old, claims to be catholic and has a lot of funny ideas, but she was touched by the movie. You have to really feel that the trip is worthwhile when you are driving home in the Friday, before a holiday, 5 o'clock rush hour traffic and it was."

"she claims to be catholic"....(as if she's lying!!!)

"and has a lot of funny ideas"....(and Mormons don't??!! 1-word....POLYGAMY!!!!!)

Subject: OMG!!!! THis is REAL???? nt
Date:



Subject: Calling someone a loser when you don't know how to spell loser. What's up with that? 
Subject: Invading her at work??? Do they want to get her fired? 


Subject: Harrasing inactives is not a particularly noble endeavor. . .
Date: Sep 03 18:36
Author: catholicgirl

Not only does it assume they're not smart enough to find LDS, Inc., again, should they desire to do so, but it does violate numerous personal boundaries, including freedom of worship.

When the missionaries "dropped in" at my brother and sister-in-law's home in Seattle while we were there recently, they spent part of the time pumping my SIL for info about an inactive neighbor, and plotting how best to "get to" her.

They even asked me what I thought about showing her a particular film.

Had it been my own home, there would have been a lot of things I might have said (the conversation wouldn't even have been taking place), but as it was, I excused myself.

I wondered if these guys even had any sense of guilt or remorse at night when they thought about the focus of their energies and activities.

Probably not.

Subject: Your grandparents are lucky not to be arrested and jailed.
Date: Sep 03 18:52
Author: Cheryl

What they are doing is indeed stalking. They harass and trespass when they know they are considered intrusive pests. They're brainwashed, but so what? That woman and her sons have a right to protect their personal lives and privacy.

The mishies "try not to take it personally?" Translation: they are hardened to the reality of what they are doing to their innocent victims. I have no respect for the church's missionary program of harassment, trespassing, and systematic stalking. It's shameful!

Subject: Gramps and Granny can't take the hint, can they? 
 

 


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