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13 years ago
steve benson
Per the contents of the Zapruder film: "After Kennedy has been hit, there is no blood on Connally's cuff from the magic bullet wrist wound, and he continues to grip his Stetson hat. Such massive damage would have caused blood to spurt immediately, and it seems that for the single bullet theory to work, blood would have been seen quickly after JFK is wounded. And, of course, if his major
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13 years ago
steve benson
You gonna start comparing informed skeptics of the Warren Commission to creationists, pal, and the gloves come off.
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13 years ago
steve benson
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13 years ago
steve benson
. . . the importance of Connally's reaction to the shots fired during the JFK assassination, in the context of how that reaction serves to undermine, in both of our opinions, the basic premise of the Warren Commission's single-bullet conclusion. Timothy used Connally's experience as a metaphor to comment on how some die-hard believers in Christianity will continue with the mainstream belief
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13 years ago
steve benson
Friends tell each other the truth, regardless. Doing so can result in any of the following results: --It highlights the honesty of the friendship. --It strengthens the friendship. --It undermines the friendship. Depends on the state of the friendship.
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13 years ago
steve benson
And Jews, quite frankly, are pretty damned tired of having their Holocaust regularly hijacked in the name of other agendas. Maybe you should have just linked the board to that South Vietnamese general shooting a VC guerilla in the head. (Given its own graphic gore, however, I'll just provide the headline and not the actual link, since on occasion there can be actual taste demonstrated aroun
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13 years ago
steve benson
. . . the first time accompanied by a friend of mine who was a Holocaust survivor. Nice attempt at trying to win the argument over the Kennedy headshot by dragging in the Jews. It was incredibly distasteful on your part.
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13 years ago
steve benson
. . . the latter assertion being based upon Oswald's actual Marine range score sheets that have surfaced. Having fired weapons on the police range (with various types of Glocks, and once in academy training with a shotgun), I can attest to the fact that some days you can be "on," and other days not.
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13 years ago
steve benson
But as I recall, this whole thread began in response to your point about Connally, not about Kennedy, did it not? :)
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13 years ago
steve benson
Notes Fonzi: "The Zapruder film itself supports Connally's assertion. As the Presidential car begins to pass from view behind a road sign, about frame 185, the President is waving with his right hand and smiling. Less than a second and a half later, at frame 207, the car is completely beind the sign but the President's face is still visible above it. On frame 225 it is obvious that Ken
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13 years ago
steve benson
. . . defies the eyewitness testimony from the Stemmons overpass, it is undermined by Specter's own admisson that he can't explain it himself and it defies what Connally told me. And, Cabbie, please try to get this through your head (no pun intended): I am not talking about the President's reaction to the headshot. This thread is not, per se, about the fatal shot to Kennedy's cranium.
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13 years ago
steve benson
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13 years ago
steve benson
. . . and I don't (as I have noted in this thread already) disgree that it can be done (in fact, it has been done in recreated scenarios by capable marksmen). I am not, however, satisfied with the Commission's decision to ignore the Connally physical evidence (based on the Governor's on-film, observable reactions or lack thereof to that single bullet scenario, not to mention his own testimony
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13 years ago
steve benson
. . . the bullet that also supposedly had just ripped through Kennedy and was now supposedly digging its way into and out of Connally's body, I don't find your support of your single-bullet premise (or the Warren Commission's or Jennings') to be particularly plausible on that score alone. As Timothy notes, the Commission simply chose to ignore Connally on this. I'm with House Committee o
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13 years ago
steve benson
Garrison was something of a nut (who, it has been alleged, largely turned a blind eye to the New Orleans Mafia), so he didn't get any keyboard clicks of credibility from me. But as to that inconvenient Zapruder film, well, I can understand why you choose to attempt a dodge from that missile--since, as amply demonstrated by Connally's non-reaction alone to the Commission's lone-round scenario
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13 years ago
steve benson
. . . I don't think (given the right conditions) it would have been beyond the realm of possibility for a shooter in that location to hit his mark, even if it was with a relatively primitive, repeating, bolt-action, Italian-made Mannlicher-Carcano rifle of the type that Oswald purchased through mail order--and especially if the rifle was outfitted with a 4x scope for use at such relatively clo
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13 years ago
steve benson
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13 years ago
steve benson
For a broad and either generally or strongly sympathetic view of "lone gunman" perspective, 12 volumes, in particular (alphabatized by author): --1. David W. Belin, "Final Disclosure: The Full Truth About the Assassination of President Kennedy" (New York: Charles Scribner's Sons, 1988), 249 pp. --2. Jim Bishop, "The Day Kennedy Was Shot: An Uncensored Minute-
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13 years ago
steve benson
"Doctrine & Covenants" 132:54-55, 61-63 (Emma, pay heed, or you're a dead woman, thus saith the Lord): 54. "And I command mine handmaid, Emma Smith, to abide and acleave unto my servant Joseph, and to none else. But if she will not abide this commandment she shall be bdestroyed, saith the Lord; for I am the Lord thy God, and will destroy her if she abide not in my law."
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13 years ago
steve benson
Timothy-- In another thread you wrote: "I’m not a conspiracy theorist by any stretch, but I am probably the only person in America who has actually read the entire Warren Commission Report on the Assassination of President Kennedy. "Its fairly f**ked up, at worst, and ridiculously speculative, at best, but the most telling part of the so-called 'investigation' can be found
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13 years ago
steve benson
Timothy-- You wrote in this thread: "I’m not a conspiracy theorist by any stretch, but I am probably the only person in America who has actually read the entire Warren Commission Report on the Assassination of President Kennedy. "Its fairly f**ked up, at worst, and ridiculously speculative, at best, but the most telling part of the so-called 'investigation' can be found in Ch
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13 years ago
steve benson
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jEsDqtw6pTc
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13 years ago
steve benson
This person lives in the Phoenix area, close to an evangelical church (and I am sharing this with his express permission). His dentist has an office in the same area. The dentist for this guy was referring him to another dentist who does root canals. In making the referral and speaking of the doctor to whom he was sending his patient (all the while not knowing that his patient was a Morm
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