Let me get this straight . . . he's saying the Kinderhook plates are real?? Even LDS inc. admitted they Kinderhook plates are phony. Oh, and the "negro lips" on carved faces? That's from the Olmec heads. If you look at the Olmec heads, and then look at the indigenous people STILL LIVING in the region where the heads were produced, you will get your solution to why the
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I recall someone here did a search of real estate records and found that Thomas S. Monson owned just under a million dollars in real estate. I thought at the time, "not bad for someone who spent his whole life working for the Church." Guys like Uchtdorf who came to be full-time GAs from the world of business can be justified for being filthy rich. They were successful bus
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Von Daniken was part of a plot by the Illuminati to divert our attention from what's REALLY happening.
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messygoop Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > So glad the church worries about important stuff > like the CES letter and not trivial matters such > as world hunger or clean drinking water. How DARE you say this. Of COURSE the Church is worried about world hunger and clean drinking water. Didn't they just tell people in Africa to pay their tithi
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steve benson Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > "Countered Nibley, 'Then the question still > remains—where did Joseph Smith get it? Demotic > Egyptian wasn't discovered until the 1850s and > there was no grammar until the 20th century.' > ('The Herald,' May 1, 1980). Nibley used to just say things that made his case sound good and
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I would think that an original copy of the un-redacted version of the comic would be worth a heck of a lot of $.
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I received my inheritance (cash) 28 years ago. I transformed it into a house (which I still own) and mutual funds which form the core of my retirement savings. Last year, for the first time in my life, I bought a new car--under $20,000. I think I could survive winning a million in the lottery. But I never play the lottery. Maybe the problem is that people who win the lottery are
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messygoop Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Nothing new. > > We gave out over 1500 pictures of Jesus when I > served some 25 years ago. Let me guess . . . they were pictures of that Aryan guy.
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Emperor-Librarian Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Yet, when I show up at church. Ah, there's the problem!
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Who do you publicly condemn, but secretly envy?
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Yes, he had to prepare the way by boinking a lot of his followers' wives sisters, and daughters. Sadly he was cut down in the prime of his life by an angry mob. Had he lived another fifty-six years he would have been able to boink enough woman to bring about the coming of the Lord, and wind up the scene.
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Pooped Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > He's exclusively > there for the already indoctrinated. He was there for the insufficiently indoctrinated. Retention is their problem now. > Do you think LDS elite have given up on "The world > is ripe and ready to harvest" theme? Or are they > just dumping all the responsibility on the
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TBM wife divorced me and I lost my job working for the Church. Yeah, I had to start over.
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So you couldn't go back to sleep after hearing a ghost story on the radio. That MUST have been "The Spirit" telling you that the story was TRUE!. We all know that having ANY kind of emotional response to what someone tells you, or to what you read, HAS to be "The Spirit" telling you it's true. At least that's what I was told concerning the Book of Mormon.
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I'll volunteer to be a test case.
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"Once thou hast them by the stones of their loins, will not their hearts and minds then follow?" --Fallopians 8:13
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The most important message that God has for his more than seven billion children on earth is what to call the name of a small religious sect headquartered in Salt Lake City, Utah.
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More immediate question is, how does global warming affect the wildfires? I'm just an armchair "expert" but it seems to me that greater evaporation from the ocean would lead to greater rain during the rainy season which would mean more vegetation which would become dryer during the hotter dry season and create more tinder for wildfires.
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I recall as a kid noticing that a lot of the hymns were about how great things were GOING TO BE in the future. I recall my TBM father and others whose eyes would glaze over as they talked about how wonderful it would be in the future when XYZ finally happened.
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I was once a guest on an internet radio show about Mormonism (by non-Mormons) and spent most of the time "defending" the Church against the crazy rumors that they'd all heard.
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I read the Book of Mormon and prayed about it repeatedly. No angel appeared. Clearly the BOM is fake.
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And then you should pray about whether praying about whether praying about things is an effective way of finding truth, is an effective way to find truth. etc.
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You should pray about whether praying about things is an effective way of finding truth.
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I live next to a farm. Each spring my wife and I walk over and see the newborn calves. A calf (as with a foal) can walk just after it's born. A Human baby can do nothing. Why? One idea is that it has to do with our distant tree-shrew ancestors coming down and walking. This left our hands free to do things like make and use tools. This gave having a large brain (and accompanyin
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And the Brothers Grimm were very Grim.
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At least Mormonism never has these stupid pronouncements by out- of-it geezers who remark on fashion trends as if they were God's Vogue editor . . . oh wait, shoulders . . . earrings . . . facial hair . . . skirt length . . . Sorry, my bad.
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What the Church will do is accept the "revealed extended parable" explanation of the Book of Mormon as acceptable for members to believe if they wish. In the past this was considered a heresy. What the Church WON'T do is put that position forward as the Church's position. They will trumpet over and over how "Marvelous" and "wonderful" and "true&qu
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My TBM ex-wife had the idea that God wanted her to be rich. She thought that God had provided this way for her to become rich, and all she had to do was find it. She fell for all kinds of scams trying to find the one God had in mind for her. That was over 40 years ago. She never did succeed in finding God's plan for her acquisition of wealth.
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http://www.cc.com/video-clips/t3omhb/the-colbert-report-jon-mcnaughton-s--nation-under-socialism--artwork
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What is similar to Schroedinger's Cat, in that it exists in two places at once.
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