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12 years ago
baura
To paraphrase a line in the movie "Soul Man" they have financial aid for people whose parents are poor but not for people whose parents are assholes.
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12 years ago
baura
Mormons haven't had any real persecution for over a century. They have to manufacture it now ex-nihilo. Persecution is supposed to be a sign that they are the One True Church. That's why they need it. Paradoxically they love to brag about how accepted they are in society at the same time. "Persecution" has also undergone a change. It used to be burning down your house and ki
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12 years ago
baura
One thing is for sure -- Mormonism has nothing of value to offer your family.
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12 years ago
baura
July 31, 1832 - Joseph Smith writes: "and now I conjure and exhort mine accusers and the hypocrite in Zion in the love of Christ yea in the name of Jesus of Nazareth" July 31, 1847 - Orson Pratt and Henry G. Sherwood began the first survey in Salt Lake City. It is completed three weeks later. July 31, 1857 - Brigham Young marries Sarah Delight Stocking, who had turned nineteen t
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12 years ago
baura
From the article you linked to: "It was only 45 years ago that Mississippi legalized interracial marriage, and this poll indicates it continues to be a controversial subject." This same thing would be true if said about Utah. It was about 45 years ago that interracial marriage became legal in Utah and it's still a controversial topic there.
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12 years ago
baura
Leaving Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Why would God reveal to Joseph Smith that he was > translating the writings of Abraham when in fact > he wasn’t? The title page to the Book of > Abraham makes it very clear that Joseph Smith felt > that Abraham’s actual words were on those > papyrus scrolls > > THE BOOK OF ABRAHAM &g
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12 years ago
baura
Glad to be of any help. My motto is, "we are all entitled to out own opinions, but we are not entitled to our own facts."
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12 years ago
baura
Ditto on the applesauce....er... I mean applause.
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12 years ago
baura
The StalkerDog™ Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > 15 But the LORD said to him, “Not so; anyone > who kills Cain will suffer vengeance seven times > over.” Then the LORD put a mark on Cain so that > no one who found him would kill him. And ever since nobody has EVER killed a Black person.
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12 years ago
baura
July 30, 1837 - Eleven days after Apostles Brigham Young, Heber C. Kimball, and Orson Hyde arrive at Liverpool, England, they baptize nine converts in the Ribble River near Preston. These are the first convert baptisms outside of North America. Heber C Kimball records: "about daybreak, Elder Isaac Russell (who had been appointed to preach on the obelisk in Preston Square, that d
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12 years ago
baura
IF she called you because she wanted to start something up then that's her problem. IF you didn't go along with her starting anything up then you did nothing wrong. Like I said, save your guilt feelings for when you actually do something wrong. And, yes, Mormon programming runs deep. Dealing with that fact is a major part of the recovery process.
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12 years ago
baura
steve benson Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > "Mr. Wallace: "Why must only men run the Church?" > > "Reply: "'"Only men" do not run the Church. This is kind of like saying, in ante-bellum South, "Only Whites do not run the plantation."
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12 years ago
baura
Skunk Puppet Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Didn't he make a recorded confession from jail > some time ago to his followers saying that he > *wasn't* a prophet? He was just speaking as a man for that one. Or else he was misquoted or it was taken out of context. See, NONE of your attacks against the Prophet succeed ;)
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12 years ago
baura
anagrammy Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > "Our race is the Master Race. We are divine gods > on this planet. We are as different from the > inferior races as they are from insects. In fact, > compared to our race, other races are beasts and > animals, cattle at best. Other races are > considered as human excrement. Our destiny is to
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12 years ago
baura
"Of all men upon the face of the earth, we are the most favoured; we have the fulness of the everlasting Gospel, the keys of revelation and exaltation, the privilege of making our own rules and regulations, and are not opposed by anybody. No king, prince, potentate, or dominion, has rightful authority to crush and oppress us. We breathe the free air, we have the best looking men and hands
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12 years ago
baura
Mormonism has this huge "avoid the very appearance of evil" thing. It also has a huge "avoid situations of temptation" thing. This leads to weak people who can't resist temptation so they have to avoid situations where there is temptation. Jesus was accused of hanging around with sinners, of doing good deeds on the Sabbath (which was a no-no in itself). IF you went in
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12 years ago
baura
July 29, 1842 - SANGAMO JOURNAL editorializes: "We do not know what course will be pursued by Mr. Pratt. If he sinks under the denunciations and schemes of Joe Smith-- if he fails to defend the reputation of himself and of the woman he has vowed to protect before high heaven--he will fix a stain upon his character which he can never wash out, and carry to the grave the pangs caused by 'the
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12 years ago
baura
July 28, 1832 - Joseph Smith ordains Sidney Rigdon to the high priesthood "the Second time" after he had "repented like Peter of old." Rigdon had been disfellowshipped three weeks earlier. July 28, 1843 - Patriarch Hyrum Smith blesses Leonora Cannon Taylor: "You shall be blest with your portion of the Priesthood which belongeth to you, that you may be set apart for yo
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12 years ago
baura
Big deal, I had SEVEN on Saturday!
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12 years ago
baura
Years ago in Provo during a 4th of July parade I was wandering around a park when I saw a man taking a shotgun out of the trunk of his car. Spencer W. Kimball was the star guest of the parade. I asked the man, "are you with Church security?" He said, "Provo city police." I assumed that they were concerned with security for Kimball's visit. Mormonisms emphasis on
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12 years ago
baura
July 27, 1838 - Joseph Smith writes in his journal: "We have a company of Danites in these times, to put to right physically that which is not right, and to clense the Church of every great evil which has hitherto existed among us inasmuch as they cannot be put to right by teachings and persuasyons." July 27, 1842 - Another revelation is given by Joseph Smith on polygamy. The text
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12 years ago
baura
July 26, 1838 - At Kirtland the High Council unanimously passes the following resolutions: "1st. That the First Presidency shall have their expenses defrayed in going to and from Adam-ondi-Ahman, equally by the bishop of each place. 2nd. That all the travelling expenses of the First Presidency shall be defrayed. 3rd. That the bishop be authorized to pay orders coming from the East, inas
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12 years ago
baura
Actually Joseph Smith taught that infants who die will be resurrected as infants to be raised by their parents in the CK. Kinda misses the point, however, to go through puberty in the CK. Not what I'd call a "test."
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12 years ago
baura
I recall that the old "Discourses of Brigham Young" had the words in it changed from the original JOD and DesNews versions to eliminate Adam-God language. For example Elohim is referred to by Young as "the Grandfather" to distinguish him from Adam who is the "father" of our spirits according to BY's Adam-God doctrine. Later Joseph Fielding Smith quoted one of the
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12 years ago
baura
The OTC (One True Church) accomplished what it wanted with their 2008 prop 8 campaign--solidified ties to other conservative Christian organizations. Now many of them won't be yelling "Mormons aren't Christian." The point wasn't to "defend traditional marriage," but to garner friends using the adage: "the enemy of my enemy is my friend." However if they were
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12 years ago
baura
July 25, 1830 - Joseph Smith receives a revelation instructing missionaries to curse those who will not listen to them: "And in whatsoever place ye shall enter, and they receive you not, in my name, ye shall leave a cursing instead of a blessing, by casting off the dust of your feet against them as a testimony, and cleansing your feet by the wayside" July 25, 1831 - The first compan
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12 years ago
baura
Jesus drank wine because Jesus wasn't a Mormon.
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12 years ago
baura
THINK OF THE PIONEERS AND FOLLOW THEIR EXAMPLE They all left the religion they were born into for something else. So all you BIC's out there follow the example of the Pioneers and quit the Church.
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12 years ago
baura
1 Corinthians 7: 13-14 states "13 And the woman which hath an husband that believeth not, and if he be pleased to dwell with her, let her not leave him. "14 For the unbelieving husband is sanctified by the wife, and the unbelieving wife is sanctified by the husband: else were your children unclean; but now are they holy." According to the Scriptures she's about to make you
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12 years ago
baura
What? How can you doubt four anonymous manuscripts in a different language than that of Jesus and his followers that was written a generation or two after Jesus died?
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