I am finding that there are not many ex-mo's where I live who want to discuss the church much. I find myself thinking that maybe there is something wrong in my perspective, but I just can't help myself. I've discovered that most of the ex-mo's I meet left the church because of one particular issue or another, but none have done research and learned of the church's dark past. I get frustrated a
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AIC, how old were you when you joined?
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My parents were not members of the LDS church, but my father came from pioneer heritage and he felt that he could do worse than encouraging his children to join the Mormon church. My sister and I took the missionary discussions from two handsome missionaries. I was 11 and my sister was 9. I honestly had not absorbed anything from my studies with the elders...I was just infatuated, and excited at
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Good point, Rebekah! Now THERE'S a visual...Donny and Marie wearing their garments OVER their clothes!
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I'm guessing that your friends might actually be a little scared. When someone who has always been so strong in the church...and served a mission...leaves the church, it has to rock the world of a lot of people. They may be thinking, "if SHE left the church, maybe there is reason to question it?" I believe that is why, so often, members of the church pull away from the apostates. We
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How many times have members of the church heard those same phrases Donny recited: "an outward expression of an inward commitment" AND "the garments are SACRED, not SECRET" To most people watching Joy's show, those statements will sound profound...like Donny thought them up that very moment!
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Tristan, I'm digging myself deeper and deeper into a hole. You make me realize that maybe I am too judgmental. I'm learning!
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You guys are hysterical!
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Looking back, it seemed to be, most commonly, wife stroking husband; mother stroking son; or father stroking son. I don't recall seeing mother-to-daughter or husband-to-wife. Is an analysis in order?
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Yeah, and it sounds like it happens at every ward!
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dthenonreligious, you sure know how to ruin a thread!! LOL
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I am picturing my old ward and certain people who did it all the time. My son's friends, who obviously didn't want to be there, would seem uncomfortable as their moms rubbed their backs incessantly. Not having been raised in the church, it felt very uncomfortable to me. Maybe not everyone reacted the same way?
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Ohhhh, Tristan, I'm so sorry if you felt my comments were directed at someone like you. You are the exception. I hope you know the ones I am referring to!
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It seemed so out of place! Sit in the back if you're gonna be rubbin' and scratchin'! Out of the line of vision of a hundred people!
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I was always told that you NEVER turned down a calling...that the bishop had prayed about it and the calling was "divinely inspired". I lived in dread of being called into the bishop's office and told that he felt led by the spirit to call me to this or that calling. One calling I DID enjoy was Achievement Day teacher (teaching 8 - 12 year old girls after school twice a month). One o
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Last night, my husband reminded me of how we used to be forced to sit in church and watch women in the rows in front of us give long, drawn-out back rubs to their husbands and/or sons. All of a sudden, that vision came flooding back to my mind and I literally shuddered and covered my face. The thought of it honestly nauseated me! Please tell me they didn't know that everyone behind them was ob
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Pink Floyd is my all-time favorite group. I didn't at all appreciate them as a teenager. Do you believe my son actually "introduced" me to them? I knew who they were, and I liked them, but I did not come CLOSE to appreciating them fully. My son had me read the actual words and listen closely to the songs, and my eyes opened to how truly brilliant the group is. Grey, I was in the ch
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So sorry to break the mood...but I had to let him know how much I appreciate his name. Monty Python rocks.
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Thank you so much, Whiskey_Tango! Very interesting...
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In a Time magazine article, he skirts the issue. He did go on a mission, but does not outwardly profess to be active now.
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Greyfort, that's sort of how I feel. This isn't the first time I've "let loose". I feel like, besides at this board, there is no place for me to truly vent. I would LOVE to be able to discuss my experiences face-to-face with someone who was either: (1) feeling like I was or (2) truly interested in hearing my story. Maybe therapy is the only answer!!
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and I found myself so desperately anxious to share EVERYTHING with these people that I tripped all over myself. I wanted to spew out all the ugly truths in 10 minutes (I knew that was about all I had). Later, I gave it some deep thought, and decided that I need to calm down. If someone is really interested, they will ask ME questions. I think my biggest fear is that others will get "suck
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Wonderful contributions...what a bunch of thinkers we are! Isn't it wonderful???????
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Keep 'em coming! This man was ahead of his time
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Thank you for your additions! I neglected to state that MY quote was also taken from The Age of Reason.
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"It is a contradiction in terms and ideas to call anything a revelation that comes to us at second hand, either verbally or in writing. Revelation is necessarily limited to the first communication. After this, it is only an account of something which that person says was a revelation made to him; and though he may find himself obliged to believe it, it cannot be incumbent on me to believe it
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Wow, what an amazing story! Please know that you have LOTS of friends here, who are anxious to support you and to know more about your journey out of the church. I think it strengthens ALL of us to know that even a bishop can break free from the hold the LDS church places on its members. I am truly happy for you that now you can live your life in freedom, to grow and to learn. I'll bet you're
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Wow, I'm waxing nostalgic..... (BIG shudder)
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I left in 2010, need I say more??
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Tawanda, I feel just like you do! When I first got free from the clutches of the church, I felt like a little girl in a full skirt, wanting to just spin in circles! It felt so wonderful to be free, and to FEEL LIKE AN ADULT! Drinking coffee was definitely one of the things that made me feel truly liberated. I also know how strange it feels today, after looking down our noses at "the heat
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