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3 years ago
isthechurchtrue
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sy9J--o0ZNQ Examples: 1 Nephi 20-21 are copied from Isaiah 48-49. 2 Nephi 7-8 are copied from Isaiah 50-51. 2 Nephi 12-24 are copied from Isaiah 2-14. 3 Nephi 12-14 are copied from Matthew 5-7 (the Sermon on the Mount). 1 Nephi 3:7 is a paraphrase of 1 Corinthians 10:13 Joseph Smiths First Vision account is a paraphrase of Acts 26:13.
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3 years ago
isthechurchtrue
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AK8o_CQ3PNs The many contradictions of the LDS doctrine of polygamy.
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4 years ago
isthechurchtrue
https://www.bitchute.com/video/hH6z4RnarVte/ How Warren Jeffs, the FLDS prophet, Got Life In Prison...
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4 years ago
isthechurchtrue
When I saw it, I wondered how much Corona-virus was on their handkerchiefs... The Brethren told every Mormon in the world to pull out their handkerchief and wave it around in the middle of a pandemic. Brilliant!
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4 years ago
isthechurchtrue
Watch leaders of the LDS Church Embarrass themselves with the Hosanna Shout in General Conference April 2020. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vnxWY2cJHYw
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4 years ago
isthechurchtrue
How about how Joseph Smith thought Elias and Elijah were 2 different people? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-LKbeCFQjbo The Introduction to the Doctrine and Covenants talks about the contents of the Doctrine and Covenants which Joseph Smith claimed to receive by revelation from God. It says that priesthood keys were conferred by Moses, Elijah, and Elias to Joseph Smith. What this passage f
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4 years ago
isthechurchtrue
Who wrote the Race and Priesthood Gospel Topic Essay? Did the leaders of the LDS Church approve it before it was published? How did the LDS Church produce the Gospel Topic Essays? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lzJwdx7pAyk
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5 years ago
isthechurchtrue
Why Do Mormons Mistreat Ex-Mormons: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UrHdZgBO-ss
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5 years ago
isthechurchtrue
The difference is that the Mormons will argue with you about those things. They cant argue about something that is so clearly wrong. Joseph Smith was just wrong. Period.
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5 years ago
isthechurchtrue
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-LKbeCFQjbo The Introduction to the Doctrine and Covenants talks about the contents of the Doctrine and Covenants which Joseph Smith claimed to receive by revelation from God. It says that priesthood keys were conferred by Moses, Elijah, and Elias to Joseph Smith. What this passage fails to realize is that Elijah and Elias are the same person. Sometimes names ar
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5 years ago
isthechurchtrue
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x54SSnuM-co General Authority, Paul H Dunn, tells faith promoting stories to the public.
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5 years ago
isthechurchtrue
Mormons and Mental Illness Suicide Depression Panic Part 1 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0sNFmm2k4Zo Part 2 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I4bltTdzh2c
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5 years ago
isthechurchtrue
"Bishop Orellana looked at the new convert and said, 'If paying tithing means that you can’t pay for water or electricity, pay tithing. If paying tithing means that you can’t pay your rent, pay tithing. Even if paying tithing means that you don’t have enough money to feed your family, pay tithing. The Lord will not abandon you.'” https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WtUy6Wtk-js Source
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5 years ago
isthechurchtrue
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Strengthening_Church_Members_Committee The Committee is real and monitors members "publications" for apostasy. The Committee was created in 1985 by Ezra Daft Benson. "The Strengthening Church Members Committee (SCMC) is a committee of general authorities of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints (LDS Church) who monitor the publications
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6 years ago
isthechurchtrue
You asked if the LDS Church had to pay a fine in California. They did because they didnt report their contribution to the political campaign. They didnt have to pay a fine because they couldnt talk about the issues. They had to pay a fine for failing to file a disclosure form. Huge difference. You, trying to equate, contributing financially to a political campaign with talking is absolute
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6 years ago
isthechurchtrue
Ok, show me the supreme court case that says people dont have the right to talk about their religion in the United States. Go ahead. Because what you did was show a court case saying people cant make unlimited political donations. That isnt the same thing and you should know that.
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6 years ago
isthechurchtrue
I was referring to the recent past since that is what people are talking about in modern times.
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6 years ago
isthechurchtrue
No. You just used the fallacy of equivocation. You used 2 different definitions for what "speech" is then used them interchangeably as if there was no difference. Obviously, what I was referring to is a persons right to talk freely about their religious and political beliefs. That is covered by the 1st amendment. Your juggling of multiple definitions of a word speaks volumes to
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6 years ago
isthechurchtrue
"It is those who engage in the political debate over gay marriage." No. Debate is speech protected under the first amendment. Giving a political campaign money is another issue. You are trying to say they are the same when they arent. Everyone in America has the 1st amendment right to engage in political debates and teach their religious beliefs. That is the basic understanding o
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6 years ago
isthechurchtrue
"They have the same political stances no matter where they are. I can't imagine how that supports your claims..." If their beliefs were to influence a local political theater then there wouldnt be any reason to push those beliefs world wide. Mormonism is a religion. You sound like Mormonism was some sort of trick to disguise a political party as a religion. I dont think so. You s
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6 years ago
isthechurchtrue
This is very important. I was talking about speech. You are talking about donating money. Those are 2 completely different things. The LDS Church did pay a fine for not reporting their non-monetary contributions to a political campaign. But you fail to see the details once again. They werent fined because they werent allowed to do what they did. They were fined because they didnt report it on
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6 years ago
isthechurchtrue
Subway isnt a political organization. By your view of "political" it would make everything a political organization. That is non sense. The customer is the person engaging in politics in my example. Subway wasnt engaging in politics. It was just selling sandwiches. If you cant tell the deference there then I dont know what to tell you.
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6 years ago
isthechurchtrue
No. You missed the point of the 1st amendment to the constitution. You cant just call someones religion a "political issue" then demand that they are no longer allowed to talk about their beliefs because they are now "political." The 1st amendment gives the highest protection to religious speech.
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6 years ago
isthechurchtrue
"What a fine representative of your church you make with your obfuscations, dishonesty, and straw-men. They must be so proud." What Church? What are you even talking about? What? "The NRA, as far as I know, has never forced anyone to do anything. The NRA has, as far as I know, never kicked out a member for voting for the wrong candidate. Yet the NRA is manifestly political.
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6 years ago
isthechurchtrue
Not in the modern political sense it wasnt. People had much different ideas in 1830.
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6 years ago
isthechurchtrue
I am an ex-Mormon just like 95% of the people here. You cant just accuse people of trolling because you disagree with them. Swearing ISNT an argument either.
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6 years ago
isthechurchtrue
1) "You still haven't explained why changing the number of God(s), whether God is a spiritual or physical being, whether God and Jesus are identical are not major changes in theology. Which of course they are." I am not saying they didnt change their theology. You claimed I did which I didnt. You just misrepresent everything I say. 2) "The answer to this paradox is simple. T
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6 years ago
isthechurchtrue
The LDS Church had those beliefs long before they became political issues. That means the LDS Church DIDNT CREATE those beliefs to influence politics.
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6 years ago
isthechurchtrue
1st Amendment to the Constitution: Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances. Is that constitutional enough for you?
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6 years ago
isthechurchtrue
1) "You asserted that LDS theology doesn't change" No I didnt. Dont misrepresent what I said. I clearly said for the most part it doesnt change. Big difference. 2) You listed a bunch of issues that arent political so how is that an example of them being political? It isnt. 3) You listed some theological beliefs that were changed based on politics but you missed the key part. Tha
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