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5 years ago
generationofvipers
I totally feel you. I told the vet to shave three whiskers off my cat, split one lengthwise and the other two into thirds, wrap the lengthwise half around her pinky and burn two of the thirds and give me the balance and she was like, “Wut?”
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5 years ago
generationofvipers
He diverted rescue resources away from freezing handcart pioneers so that he make sure his cargo of tobacco and alcohol made it to Salt Lake before winter hit. Will Bagley, author of "Blood of the Prophets" among other works and brother of Pat Bagley, was being interviewed on an itunes podcast about the Donner Party disaster. But every chance he got he ripped on Brigham Young. Pr
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6 years ago
generationofvipers
Hee hee good point, that is right --he did go to the "people post these quotes so how could Joseph have written it?" argument.
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6 years ago
generationofvipers
Here's a partial list https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_denominations_in_the_Latter_Day_Saint_movement
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6 years ago
generationofvipers
Literally. This means that: 1. 'Merca is better than everywhere else 2. Black skin TRULY IS a curse from God 3. Women do not deserve mention in religious stories 4. Jesus really came to 'Merca after his death in Jerusalem and killed millions of people 5. Snakes really have been employed to herd cattle by Jesus 6. DNA is all lies 7. Anthropologists are all ignorant rubes being used by Sa
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6 years ago
generationofvipers
Thanks all It sounds like this is not a particularly scary or dark piece of fiction. I will now see about DW approving it. I agree with what people here have said, and frankly think it will stimulate discussion about big topics. We just watched "War for the Planet of the Apes" which was relentlessly dark, nihilistic, and violent, so I am not sure why King would be any less apropos.
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6 years ago
generationofvipers
Thanks Boner, seems like good advice to me. I agree Dave. But he really wants to get into reading them, and I know once he starts he will be hooked because it's King. But I want to be age-appropriate so wonder.
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6 years ago
generationofvipers
It has been called HPDG to me before -- High Priest Death Gas. The smell of a room full of LDS men when you walk in. Hair gel, old spice, feces and gas, rotting teeth, not sure what else it is.
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6 years ago
generationofvipers
Thank you in advance for your input. My son is 16 and has never liked reading much. But now he is really wanting to begin the Dark Tower series because of the movie coming out. I think it's fine, since I read them at 19 and wasn't at all disturbed by them. But my wife says the sex and violence is too much. Thoughts?
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6 years ago
generationofvipers
LOL -- and the best part of the story? The land of Egypt was underwater when she "discovered" it. WTF!!??
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6 years ago
generationofvipers
"the blood of Canaan is from the Levant" You are misunderstanding the way JS used the term "Blood of Canaan". He did not mean the Canaanites which are people of the Levant. He meant the descendants of Noah through Ham through Canaan. This 'person' Canaan was "cursed as pertaining to the priesthood" because Ham saw Noah drunk and naked in his tent. He is the pers
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6 years ago
generationofvipers
Wow thanks Steve this is dynamite stuff
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6 years ago
generationofvipers
Surprise! There was no "blood of Canaan" in Egyptian populations until the slave trade. Egyptians were more closely related to inhabitants of the Levant. https://www.google.com/amp/bigthink.com/philip-perry/were-the-ancient-egyptians-black-or-white-scientists-now-know.amp
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7 years ago
generationofvipers
Yeah well I already ticked her off with that one. She was talking about how sick and warped the cannibalism scene was and I said, "Oh, like the Book of Mormon where the Lamanites rape and eat women?" Didn't go over so well.
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7 years ago
generationofvipers
Looking for commiseration here I guess. Wife won't let me watch in our home anything like West World, Game of Thrones, or other series that I find entertaining without major problems and arguments. Apparently, she can sense that it "drives the Spirit away." Last time I watched it, she left the house and went to the temple for the whole day. I guess worshipping in a place that forb
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7 years ago
generationofvipers
I left because I saw the unrepentant damage it does to people and families that don't fit into its paradigm.
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7 years ago
generationofvipers
This article seems nonsensical. The Mormons I know are as anti-Muslim as any group in the country, and to claim that they don't like Trump because they are "uneasy" to hear of another religion being persecuted is to ignore a hundred and eighty years of Mormon denigration of Catholics and Protestants.
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7 years ago
generationofvipers
I agree wholeheartedly with your topic sentence. While I am not sure about the OCD connection, I can tell you from my own experience that Mormonism propelled me into a hell of addiction and made getting out of it 100 times more difficult than it would have been if I weren't a Mormon. Why? The answer is extremely simple: dishonesty. A very special form of LDS dishonesty: inauthenticity.
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7 years ago
generationofvipers
Read "American Crucifixion" by Alex Beam. The most complete record of what happened those last two or three days I have found. The bombshell to me was that JS was bragging--in his usual cocky megalomaniac way--to an Eastern reporter that he was going to essentially skate and that no one could touch him just the day before he ran for his life. Highly recommended reading.
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7 years ago
generationofvipers
From the same interview with William Law, cited above: "Emma was a full accomplice of Joseph’s crimes. She was a large, coarse woman, as deep a woman as there was, always full of schemes and smooth as oil. They were worthy of each other, she was not a particle better than he.” I suspect that the portrait of the long-suffering, pure-hearted wife is another Mormon fiction, but who k
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7 years ago
generationofvipers
That is a hopeful sounding statistic!
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7 years ago
generationofvipers
es thanks for sharing this boner. I was so close to her before her mission. She came to me and said "I know how you feel about it but will you support me?" I told her I would if it made her happy and did not demean her. But my fear is similar to yours: I just think we will have very little to talk about and very little in common if she becomes a true believer. I really hope you are r
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7 years ago
generationofvipers
Oops posted below
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7 years ago
generationofvipers
No I don't think she's ever taken Myers-Briggs. We did a strengths Finder together so I will have to see if that looks relevant.l
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7 years ago
generationofvipers
I just feel like she has changed a lot. She used to laugh at sanctimony, and even though she is still not really into talking too much Jesus she does say that God is helping her learn the language and God is working all these miracles and so forth. Like fingers on a chalkboard. But as you suggest I will be nothing but supportive about the things I can be--like the language, the life skills, etc
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7 years ago
generationofvipers
I feel bad for this, but when my daughter went on a mission I was kind of hoping she would see through the sales rhetoric and the forced teaming and all the psycho manipulation and want to come home. Unfortunately she is just loving the place. I hated my mission. I want her to be happy, and I am glad for her learning Russian, but I REALLY don't want her to become a mindless Mormon missiona
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8 years ago
generationofvipers
http://www.sltrib.com/home/3391057-155/lds-gay-policy-came-from-god This is really a brilliant if cynical move. Monson probably doesn't even know the whole fiasco is getting pinned on him! But as soon as he is gone, they have an easy out.
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8 years ago
generationofvipers
I had a terrible, sobering thought. I'm sorry to say that my wife would, almost certainly, do Joseph Smith if he told her to. Probably one of the current GAs. Why would I say such a hateful thing? Because she is a good person, and a moral person in almost every way, but she can rationalize any immoral thing the LDS church does. She follows her conscience until it clashes with the church,
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8 years ago
generationofvipers
From this thread it looks like bigotry and narrow mindedness can be found in exmo boards just as much as LDS foyers. I know Mormons who fit the description you provided, but I know a lot of other people who fit it too. Conversely I know a lot of open minded and intelligent Mormons who don't fit your description. I think that what you are describing is fundamentalism. Fundamentalists of an
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8 years ago
generationofvipers
Nice. LDS church history in 5 sentences.
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