I remember why I drifted away from posting here. If your first response to a group supplying doctors, nurses, medicine and facilities at no cost to anyone who needs it (including members of the LGBTQ community) is that you believe they're "rabid homophobes" because the group has a statement of faith that endorses traditional marriage and not other forms (as do about 120 million Amer
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Been away a while, but strangely have some time on my hands now. Can we file this under the "let no good deed go unpunished" file? The adherence to the statement of faith is...wait for it... for volunteers If you want to freely associate with this bigoted group of hate mongers who seek to eradicate sinners and heathens from every corner of the earth and universe beyond, y
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This is why statements like the topic of this thread are silly. To make the affirmative statement “there is no god” is as much a statement of faith as the opposite. Classic atheism is a lack of belief, not a competing belief.
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There are a number of challenges facing the atheist. Scientifically speaking regarding the origin of life, information and assembly/organization are huge hurdles. If you have an hour to spare, here's a presentation by James Tour. He's an internationally recognized synthetic organic chemist and holds over 100 patents. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zU7Lww-sBPg
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Actually, believing that something can come from nothing, and that pure, unguided random chance was the sole driving force behind the massive amount of intricate processes and information required to create, sustain, and duplicate living organisms is one of the most outrageous propositions embraced by otherwise intelligent people.
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Been away a while, but glad to see many of the same old faces around here. I recently stumbled across this presentation by James Tour, one of the world's top synthetic organic chemists. He spends about an hour in this video laying out his credentials, briefly admitting he's a believer, then explaining (with no reference to deity) why much of what we've been told about the origin of life is fa
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1. Despite your alluding to the religious freedom law, it was never invoked in this incident. Why do you cite this case as an example of this law when it was never used or even mentioned by the landlord? 2. Though this offense took place under the previous administration (which did nothing about it), HUD under the current administration is pursuing discrimination charges against the landlord. H
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Though it's ironically maligned as a purveyor of control and limited rights, in countries run by oppressive governments, religion can play a vital role in creating a conscience against government abuses. In China, the growth of the Christian church has created a tense dynamic pitting freedom against government control. And any movement that promotes freedom under an oppressive regime is proba
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The cool thing about science is that you can find a study to show pretty much anything you want. Science Magazine from from 2015 cited by OP says there is no real difference between men and women's brains. http://www.sciencemag.org/news/2015/11/brains-men-and-women-aren-t-really-different-study-finds Science Magazine from 2017 says there are significant differences between men and wome
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> > ETA ~ who was bacon wrapped shrimp ? ~ Gets me thinking... If any negative number squared becomes positive, wouldn't that mean that bacon wrapped shrimp is magically Kosher?
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Most drunk driving arrests are also misdemeanors. And virtually every one results in the offender being jailed and therefore necessarily separated from all their family members, including children. The logistics of this purely natural consequence are magnified when the offense is illegally entering a sovereign nation. Try doing this in Mexico. There is a legal way to apply for asylum that doe
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Sessions speech was specifically addressing criticism from some in the religious community to the administration's immigration policy. He was not invoking the Bible as authority for policy, but was showing there is biblical support for the policy. There's no problem with this. Many laws and government policies can be shown to conform with biblical teachings, and there's nothing wrong with pointin
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Corgi Less destructive to your home and significantly less drool.
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Secular person: I'm in favor of gay marriage Religious person: I'm not, but to each their own. Secular person: I need you to create a special cake for my gay wedding. Religious person: Didn't you just drive past a dozen other bakeries that will gladly do this? Secular person: Yes, but that's not the point. YOU are required to make a special cake to be used in my ceremony. Those other
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Secular people gonna be secular. Let's welcome the diversity of ideas and open debate. Surely you wouldn't seek to silence other points of view simply because you disagree with them? You think religious people are wrong and immoral, many of them will think the same about you. Let's see who can be persuaded, and keep an open dialog. It's kinda funny that a big part of this push is to simply
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Well, your feelings on this topic are irrelevant. And that's the point. Personal animus toward an ideology is not a substantial foundation for discrimination against that ideology. You're out of step with history and the law. Consider how you've addressed everybody who sought to keep same sex marriage illegal and apply those arguments to your position on this topic. You're wrong, and the
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ificouldhietokolob Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Thomas P. Wrote: > -------------------------------------------------- > ----- > > ...the coercive power of the state to force a > man to > > violate his convictions. > > Go read the decision, no such issue was decided. > > And, pray tell, what violation of "con
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ificouldhietokolob Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > IMHO, the "artistic" stuff is a nonsensical > distraction from a simple fact: the baker refused > to do business with someone because they're gay. > It's no different from refusing to do business > with someone because they're black, or they're a > woman, or their family is fro
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The question was posed, The US, a. Has a responsibility b. Does not have a responsibility to accept refugees into the country. No definition of "refugee" or "responsibility" is suggested. If you're hoping to isolate one group to demagogue the results, it's a good survey. For an actual, comprehensive gauge of attitudes, it's probably lacking. But if you feel we a
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Your phrasing is ironic. Essentially, you're saying "Can't there be a religion that agrees with me?" And when religions say, "No, we disagree with you," you label them as intolerant. Your disagreement is enlightened. Their disagreement is intolerant. There you are, as intolerant as a religion.
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Just because something can be done, doesn't necessarily mean that it should be done. Though seldom discussed, there is a vibrant segment of the medical community that concerns itself with ethics and promotes a sober approach to medical advances. Your cavalier dismissal of all who disagree with you is sad. These are actual human lives we're discussing. In a world where we'll forever banish
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Sorry, you're the one peddling crap. Kindly explain why there are a plethora of websites dedicated to "debunking" the claims of those who question the orthodoxy of AGW? Have you read their stuff? They're taking on CERN studies and data from universities and "rogue" climate scientists. You're actually arguing in favor of keeping information out of the hands of students b
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Hie, you're part of the problem. First, the bill you reference died in committee about 4 years ago. Not sure how a dead bill can threaten anyone. Second, did you actually read the bill? It proposes equipping students to critically examine the data that goes into climate science. It encourages actual critical thinking. Oh the horror. Part of the problem with climate science discussi
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I'm not arguing the observable fact of evolution. What I'm arguing is how you and many like you approach it like a religion. Science's ability to observe something is not the same as its ability to explain how something came to be. The complex information collection, storage, transmission, and duplication system required for evolution to take place is a mystery. And it's the absolute central
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Because like other religions, proponents should be allowed to make their case even though the process relies upon several core elements that elude any scientific consensus regarding their origin with no real hope they ever will be. And because Noah's Ark is stupid, but blind spontaneous emergence of the profoundly complex information storage, transmission, and duplication systems required for
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Again, I just want to note, that you make an emotional appeal here without a shred of actual science. And you started a topic decrying the death of science. And now you're dismissing what I say because you doubt that I care? Exactly where is that found in the literature as a compelling element to a scientific finding? If you care more or less than any other human on earth, exactly how does th
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anybody Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > What if I drugged you, put you in a cell, put you > in a dress and when you woke up you were told that > you were insane because you keep insisting that > you are male. > > No matter what you forced to do or wear you would > always know that you aren't female. > > > The issue is no
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anybody Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/is-ther > e-something-unique-about-the-transgender-brain/ > > > Or do you think the brain isn't "physical" and > your brain has nothing to do with how you behave > and act? > > Go get a frontal lobotomy and let me know. Nice res
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