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Phantom Shadow
I'm sorry. I'm sad that he's no longer here. I learned so much from him. Thank you, Richard, for all the time and caring you put in to help your ex-mo buddies.
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12 days ago
Phantom Shadow
Rosario was so spiritual members saw angels when the branch president spoke, so claimed my companion who spent several months in the Rosario Branch. I was in Fisherton branch in Rosario for 6 weeks before being sent back to BA. There was one flirtatious member there who thought he was hot stuff. I thought he was creepy. I don't remember any spiritual events while I was there. I did like the c
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4 months ago
Phantom Shadow
20 years ago. Left 42 years ago. Learned I could resign here on RFM.
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4 months ago
Phantom Shadow
It seemed the normal thing to do when I was a kid. I wasn't allowed to--lucky me. I'd had rheumatic fever and wasn't allowed in "pools" or places where I might get germs again. Oh, I felt so deprived. Not! Even as a kid I knew this is was something I didn't want to do. I don't remember why. Maybe because it made me feel special to be excluded. I do remember getting baptized at the
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4 months ago
Phantom Shadow
Oh my. Juan Carlos Avila. My DH was in the mission presidency (1964) as a counselor and worked with Avila. In 1984 we went back to Argentina for the first time and attended a stake conference where we met up with Juan Carlos. He'd had a stroke and couldn't speak much, He and my DH embraced and cried. He wanted us to visit him, but his wife took us aside and asked him not to--it would be too upset
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6 months ago
Phantom Shadow
Great-grandpa, an apostle. Mom always said we were from the "legitimate family," "the first family," the "legal family." So proud of that!
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6 months ago
Phantom Shadow
My Mom worked in the SL temple years ago. She was an assistant in the baptistry, highest ranking female job, she said. I was prepared for the bride's room. I wore my sister's wedding dress--the ladies added an insert for the V neck and slide on sleeves to cover my lower arms. Years later, when we attended many non-LDS weddings for co-workers, I became angry that I had been cheated out of &quo
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6 months ago
Phantom Shadow
I memorized this in the 8th grade. We had to memorize several poems. Decades later I still remember it. I had a few really great teachers growing up in SLC. Just enough to have a life-long effect on the choices I made back when I was so innocent and young. "I am the master of my fate."
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7 months ago
Phantom Shadow
I was afraid it would be in my area. Lots of acreage, but hardly any attendance. Catholic Church next door is booming--they had to build another parking lot and I understand will extend the chapel. Rare to see many cars on the Mormon side on a Sunday. I haven't seen a missionary around here in years and years.
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7 months ago
Phantom Shadow
I'd never heard of most of these authors, but then, I don't read YA fiction. The last author interviewed, Mette Ivy Harrison, is an ex-Mo and an interesting subject. I didn't know she'd written YA stuff, but the NYT article is worth it for finding out about her. I read The Bishop's Wife but not the following novels, but I did recommend Vampires in the Temple to friends. What fun! I need to rea
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7 months ago
Phantom Shadow
Life has improved steadily, albeit with an occasional bump on the road. Yet, 40--yes 40--years after leaving the church, DH is still getting grief from some of his relatives. One of them, who is the slimiest of all but now apparently a bishop, is telling DH that following a family get-together he has to go to church the next day and, not only that, he has to wear church appropriate clothes. Af
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8 months ago
Phantom Shadow
Had the dreams for over 40 years. Maybe 15 years ago they stopped at last. Trying to remember how I felt: helpless, no control over my life.
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9 months ago
Phantom Shadow
Driving into San Diego saw the temple there bizarrely dropped among the business buildings.Looked like it had escaped from Disneyland decided to park just off the freeway. I don't remember seeing a photo of it before. Looked to see if I could find critical reviews of it. Didn't find anything except how lovely it is. I think it's weird.
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10 months ago
Phantom Shadow
This means it's been a little over 20 years since I found RFM. I enjoyed reading all of your posts and learned from them. We sent in our letters in February, 2003, as I recall. At that time I would never have believed that I would eventually be writing a biography of one prominent Mormon--my great-grandfather. Thanks for sharing your wisdom with us.
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1 year ago
Phantom Shadow
Still dealing with the sudden decline of my 15 year old kitty. In Dec 2008 after our 19-year-old-cat died from failing kidneys, we went to the animal shelter and came home with two kittens, a male and a female. They grew up as buddies, then went their independent ways. He became DH's cat, adventurous, jumping into high spaces and falling off, various injuries, and going downhill. With lots of car
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1 year ago
Phantom Shadow
Brilliant idea. They can hold tours at the temple once they realize there are no more members to attend. Might make a lot more money than they'd get through tithing.
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1 year ago
Phantom Shadow
Adios muchachos, compañeros de mi vida. DH and I met on our missions to Argentina in 1963. We worked together in a branch and got to be friends. We met following a missionary conference held at Belgrano branch with Area Supervisor A. Theodore Tuttle. In my interview with him, Tuttle asked if I had a boyfriend, and I said yes, in the Southern States mission. He told me not to be in a big hurry
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1 year ago
Phantom Shadow
How about a great-grandfather apostle? Never did me any good. Maybe if I’d had my Mother’s maiden name.
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1 year ago
Phantom Shadow
Thank you jc and summer for this information. The ward on San Felipe can be seen from our local park. I often drive by the building. The Catholic Church next door is very busy. The Mormon one not so much. I take it that this is the Yerba Buena building? It is an expensive area. Recent real estate prices are still high. I don’t know of any Mormons in this area.
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1 year ago
Phantom Shadow
And Bakersfield! Tell me, folks, does Bakersfield need a temple?
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1 year ago
Phantom Shadow
Just heard this news, all I can think of is, "there goes the neighborhood!" All the news I've heard about local members in the past few years is that San Jose Mormons are moving to Utah. Happens every time property values go up. We need housing for our homeless people. Not this.
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1 year ago
Phantom Shadow
My sister and I visited UTLM in 1983. Sandra was there, but we didn't talk to her. We were newly out of the church and didn't quite no how to talk to her. I'm sure we bought something--and we took the Lighthouse newsletter for years. We did buy books from her. I imagined putting myself in her place--how many awkward moments she must have gone through. I hope she is enjoying some golden years.
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1 year ago
Phantom Shadow
Ha! Elder Old doggie. My DH was a lot like you. Rules? Well, maybe. Hung out with members a lot and learned Spanish from them. Very successful, in the mission presidency at end. Made a good impression on me. I married him. Now as to the twins. I read their memoir of growing up in SLC. Their older brother was in my high school class, They were two years behind me. Met one them at my high school
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1 year ago
Phantom Shadow
One summer day I was walking along Main Street in SLC. I was there for a Jewish genealogy conference and had taken some time to go to the Church Archives (as it was called back then.) I'd been looking at old photos in the files, trying to find a photo of my grandfather in the Southern States Mission. It was when the new mall was under construction--and about105° on a July day. I walked south
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1 year ago
Phantom Shadow
This was NOT a mistake!
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1 year ago
Phantom Shadow
Ugh. A cult is a cult. Sad that innocent people grow up in these circumstances. Just read about a distant cousin of mine, a "prophet" self-anointed. Polygamist, teen-aged brides, sex trafficker, Makes me sick.
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1 year ago
Phantom Shadow
My Jewish FIL, a convert, was assigned to the Tribe of Judah in his patriarchal blessing. Years later, when DH started tracing his genealogy, he learned that his father was actually a Levite. DH's blessing said he would be blessed in Ephraim--something like that. Didn't give his lineage. Don't remember what tribe his mother, a convert to Judaism, was assigned. Think Ephraim. Later, when DH con
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1 year ago
Phantom Shadow
Great grandpa h add 3 wives. My Mom said things like, we were from the “first” family. We were from the “legal” family. We were from the “legitimate” family. He was gone on missions for years at a time. Other times he was away for months on church assignments. This wasn’t a great system for women.
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1 year ago
Phantom Shadow
Halfway through my mission I tore up and tossed out my journal, that heavy book some kind person gave me as a missonary gift. My memory is that I thought I was depressed, but I think I was angry. A couple of months later I bought a nice leather bound notebook and started again. I tossed that one out when I wanted to leave the church, but the cost of leaving might have been too great. Later my sis
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1 year ago
Phantom Shadow
Anytime a member here in Silicon Valley makes a bit of money they move back to Utah. Well, that was the way it was a few years ago when we witnessed a great exodus. I live on a hill and can see the Catholic Church next to the Mormon chapel below. Even with the pandemic, the Catholic Church has expanded by building a new parking lot nearby. A Catholic friend, since moved away, said the meetings we
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