Haven't spoken to him for 15 years, but he was a Ut County sheriff last I did see him.
I had worked with him briefly before he become a sheriff and he was a top notch guy. I really liked him. 16 years ago or so I asked him about his dad becoming the prophet, it seemed so far off that it would never happen when we spoke at that time.
Last I spoke with him, he had pulled me over for speeding out the mouth of Provo canyon. He recognized me and gave me a warning.