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Posted by: Paint ( )
Date: June 30, 2013 07:44PM


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Posted by: Dave the Atheist ( )
Date: June 30, 2013 08:02PM

which way is he "supposed" to face ?

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Posted by: Carol Y. ( )
Date: June 30, 2013 08:09PM


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Posted by: Paint ( )
Date: June 30, 2013 08:16PM

I'm on my phone so I can't look it up but I was taught that Moroni pointed east? West? Which ever way christ would appear during the second coming. I believe this is the only temple with Moroni facing another direction besides the one correct way. Anyone else hear that? Just another bs teaching I guess...

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Posted by: skeptic2195 ( )
Date: June 30, 2013 08:26PM

As Oregon is a politically liberal state, Moroni has to face to the left..............

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Posted by: Tall Man, Short Hair ( )
Date: January 21, 2017 08:01PM

Now that's funny

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Posted by: pewsitter ( )
Date: June 30, 2013 08:44PM

My BIL was the guy that attached Moroni to the Dallas Temple. As a joke, and he spun Moroni to face west. The crowd of on lookers about crucified him for that.

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Posted by: xophor.NLI ( )
Date: July 01, 2013 01:21AM

While some design features are relatively consistent and typical, it is my understanding that the *only* required structural design is that the baptismal font is below ground level.

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Posted by: Stray Mutt ( )
Date: January 21, 2017 09:03PM

xophor.NLI Wrote:
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> ...the *only* required structural design is that
> the baptismal font is below ground level.

To me, the Portland temple looks like most of it is below ground level. All roof and spires.

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Posted by: anon for this comment ( )
Date: June 30, 2013 08:49PM

Like everyone else in Portland, he's headed to the beach.

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Posted by: utahstateagnostics ( )
Date: June 30, 2013 11:45PM

Just looked at it on Google Maps. He's facing east.

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Posted by: sandee ( )
Date: June 30, 2013 11:49PM

per lds.org:
Placement and Orientation of Figure

According to scripture, at the Second Coming the Savior will come from the east (see Matthew 24:27). The Church’s guideline concerning placement of the angel Moroni figures is that where possible, they should face eastward. Sometimes, however, the angel Moroni figure may face another direction in order to align it with the orientation of the temple. Originally, the figure on the Los Angeles Temple was placed facing southwest, the same direction the temple faced, but the figure’s orientation was adjusted to face due east upon instructions from President David O. McKay. The angel Moroni figure is placed on the high point spire, not necessarily the central spire. On several temples the figure of Moroni is placed atop a tower that is actually detached from the temple.


Temples without the Angel Moroni

Not all temples have a figure of the angel Moroni. Some, such as the Laie Hawaii, Mesa Arizona, and Cardston Alberta Temples, were not designed with towers or spires, so they have no angel Moroni. And even though the St. George, Logan, and Manti temples all have towers, they are topped with simple weathervanes rather than the angel Moroni. Some temples have had to delay the placement of the angel Moroni because of building code restrictions. This happened in Boston, Massachusetts, and Sydney, Australia, where figures were added after construction was completed. The only other temples that do not have figures of the angel Moroni are the Hamilton New Zealand and Oakland California Temples.

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Posted by: flo, the nevermo ( )
Date: July 01, 2013 12:35AM

So then some Moronis will necessarily have their back to the Savior upon His arrival . . . by McKay's orders?

[Or else that's some superpower that allows one to arrive to the east of everywhere, I guess?]

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Posted by: qwerty6pack ( )
Date: July 01, 2013 10:31AM

East of everywhere!

I am sooo stealing that!

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Posted by: Paint ( )
Date: July 01, 2013 01:32AM

Thanks for the info Sandee and utahstateagnostic

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Posted by: anon for this comment ( )
Date: July 01, 2013 01:24AM

Would God really care which way mormon idols are facing?

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Posted by: gentlestrength ( )
Date: July 01, 2013 02:43AM

Thanks for pointing out this is Mormon idolatry. Dumbasses, don't even see their reflection in their fraudulent mirrors.

How did so many rituals get into this cult?

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Posted by: Curtis ( )
Date: July 01, 2013 12:08PM

Moroni faces East because of the Masonic connection.

Google "Freemasonry East" and you'll see.

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Posted by: anonculus ( )
Date: January 21, 2017 03:24PM

They should take a cue from Islam and make them all face SLC.

And what's with Mesa? Are they less idolatrous?

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Posted by: Paint ( )
Date: July 01, 2013 01:31AM

I stand corrected about the Portland Temple. (I've never actually been there) Does anyone know if at anytime moroni was not facing east. There is a story I heard about why it wasn't but since it is, obviously the story was incorrect. Anyway I did a google search and found that there are actually quite a few temples that moroni isn't facing East or isn't there at all. Like I said, I was raised with the superstition that there was a meaning and purpose to everything including this stupid story about moroni on top of temples. What did I think, that every moroni on every temple would magically come alive and trump their horns to welcome christ. The problem is, I didn't think for myself!


The Angel Moroni typically faces east. Presumably this is symbolic of Moroni heralding the Second Coming of Jesus Christ, who will come from the east (Matthew 24:27). Not all Moroni statues face east, however. One exception is the Angel Moroni atop the Nauvoo, Illinois Temple. This angel faces to the West in commemoration of the Saints' Trek to the Great Salt Lake Valley from Nauvoo. Other Moroni statues that do not face east are: Accra Ghana (NorthEast); Anchorage Alaska (NorthEast); Apia Samoa (SouthWest); Boise Idaho (South); Buenos Aires Argentina (SouthEast); Chicago Illinois (North); Dallas Texas (South); Johannesburg South Africa (South); Kona Hawaii (NorthEast); London England (South); Manhattan New York (SouthWest); Manila Philippines (West); Mexico City Mexico (south); Nuku'Alofa Tonga (West); Oaxaca Mexico (SouthEast); St. Louis Missouri (South); Santiago Chile (South); Seattle Washington (West); Seoul Korea (south); Stockholm Sweden (south); Suva Fiji (south); Taipei Taiwan (west); and Veracruz Mexico (west).

Temples with no Angel Moroni statue are Cardston Alberta; Hamilton New Zealand; Laie Hawaii; Logan Utah; Manti Utah; Oakland California; and St. George Utah.

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Posted by: skc ( )
Date: January 21, 2017 02:34PM

Ummmmm. Boise Idaho Temple Moroni does face East:)

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Posted by: forbiddencokedrinker ( )
Date: July 01, 2013 02:20AM

You see, this is a common misunderstanding. Moroni has traditionally faced east, not because that is where Jesus would resurrect from, but because they were all facing the big money banks that were located along the east coast of America. Money being the most important principle of Mormonism, this was seen as an important point of symbolism.

Now all the once great American financial institutions are broken, so the Moroni statues will now face west, across the great Pacific ocean towards the land of China, where the new great money lending houses are located.

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Posted by: lucky ( )
Date: July 01, 2013 05:02AM

when people are buried they are supposed to be facing to the east
- the direction that the christ is supposed to be coming from on his second coming, just as the Sun rises in the East, to witness the event.

However, if Moroni is supposed to be declaring the word of god in preparation of the second coming, then he is a component of deity and should be faced west, as a fore runner of the event of gods coming, towards those awaiting the event, just as God will (supposedly) be at his coming...... unless God is going to return
with his back towards humanity ..... which would be quite fitting considering how belated his second coming really is.

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Posted by: ozpoof ( )
Date: July 01, 2013 05:36AM

The Brisbane Australia temple has a Moronic with his back to the street and where people view the temple. It's facing east.

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Posted by: blakballoon ( )
Date: January 21, 2017 08:02PM

Almost like he's mooning them!

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Posted by: spanner ( )
Date: July 01, 2013 05:39AM

West of what?

Last i checked, the earth was still round.

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Posted by: ozpoof ( )
Date: July 01, 2013 05:47AM

Well if we're going to ne picky, it's a sphere.

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Posted by: NeverBeenaMormon ( )
Date: July 01, 2013 10:49AM

....actually, to be really nitpicky, it's an oblate spheroid. That's what makes the equator bulge out a bit. Yeah, sorry, I'm that kinda guy :)!

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Posted by: anagrammy ( )
Date: July 01, 2013 11:29AM

My kinda guy!

May I ask what brings you to RfM?

I always wonder if I wouldn't be on this board even if I had never been Mormon....


Ana

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Posted by: NeverBeenaMormon ( )
Date: July 01, 2013 01:03PM

Hi Ana. I've posted answer on the main board

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Posted by: getbusylivin ( )
Date: January 21, 2017 03:58PM

I live south of the Equator. We have to walk backwards into the bathroom because of the Coriolis effect--otherwise the toilet backs up.

Moroni faces east on our temples down here except for Saturday when he takes a vacation day so he can go to his trumpet lesson with Arturo Sandoval.

Most of the temples also have drive-thru windows where you can pick up a bag of tamales, humitas, or empanadas. (Stay away from the goat empanadas unless you like walking backwards into the bathroom a lot.)

This is a cash-based society, where folks expect to receive what they pay for immediately. Thus you can get a temple recommend without paying your full tithe; however, the temples are coin-operated--put in a couple quarters for 15 minutes. Kinda like those peep shows in the back of porn shops back in the States.

Everything I just wrote is a lie; after all, technically I'm still a Mormon.

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Posted by: skeptic2195 ( )
Date: July 01, 2013 12:13PM

Round.....?? Sphere...??? Oblate spheroid...???


What happened to FLAT?????

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Posted by: chris ( )
Date: July 01, 2013 01:12PM

Moroni faces west on the Taiwan Taipei temple. My understanding is it symbolizes and foreshadows the opening of China to missionaries.

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Posted by: BYU Boner ( )
Date: January 21, 2017 03:17PM

The doors on the Los Angeles temple face south. I'm told Moroni originally also faced south. But, David O. McKay instructed that the statue be turned so it faces east. This disrupts the architectural flow of the building. In addition, if one looks at the back of Moroni's robe, one will see a hem turned up. I have no idea why, perhaps it's a Mormon tribute to Marilyn Monroe standing on a NYC subway grate!

At the time the LA temple was built, only the SLC temple had a Moroni on it. Washington DC was the next temple after LA to have a Moroni. The sculptor was given freedom to make the statue unique.

A few years ago, older temples, such as Idaho Falls, got mini Moronis placed on them. These temples, along with the newer mc-minis, have the SLC traditional design.

I like to think Of them as the Morg's version of the Asherah Poles with male Boner worship.



Edited 3 time(s). Last edit at 01/21/2017 03:21PM by BYU Boner.

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Posted by: valkyriequeen ( )
Date: January 21, 2017 03:49PM

In downtown Salt Lake City, on the southeast corner of State Street and North Temple is a large statue of Brigham Young. His back is to the temple and he is facing, with outstretched arm, to Zion's Bank.

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Posted by: Babyloncansuckit ( )
Date: January 21, 2017 04:08PM

Maybe that Moroni is gay.

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Posted by: numbersRus ( )
Date: January 21, 2017 04:08PM

the blackface moron=i

After it was struck by lightning, generally considered an "act of God".

I guess the mctemple builders failed physics, at least the part about lightning rods on tall buildings

http://img.deseretnews.com/images/top/main/35239/35239.jpg

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Posted by: numbersRus ( )
Date: January 21, 2017 04:12PM

Here's another moron-i that got its face blown off and a hole in its back - also lightning.

http://img.ksl.com/slc/2591/259141/25914185.jpg?filter=ksl/img614

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Posted by: Dave the Atheist ( )
Date: January 21, 2017 04:30PM

what would happen if there was a temple at the south pole ?

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Posted by: numbersRus ( )
Date: January 21, 2017 04:48PM


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Posted by: Dave the Atheist ( )
Date: January 21, 2017 05:08PM

but which way would moroni face ?

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Posted by: numbersRus ( )
Date: January 21, 2017 07:32PM

Actually the south pole is a point so as long as Moron-i were not placed exactly at the pole point they could define an "east" direction.

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Posted by: rhgc ( )
Date: January 21, 2017 05:05PM

East would be towards Mecca.

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Posted by: themaster ( )
Date: January 21, 2017 07:36PM

Jesus has to come from the east because the earth turns eastward and the space ship from Kolob would be floating as the world turns for these are the days of our lives Dallas.

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Posted by: Felix ( )
Date: January 22, 2017 12:28AM

The Moroni on the Seattle temple is facing west. The Seattle Temple is actually in Bellevue which is just east of Seattle. Perhaps facing west so Moroni can enjoy all the beautiful seattle sun sets over seattle skyline.

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Posted by: Tall Man, Short Hair ( )
Date: January 22, 2017 12:45AM


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Posted by: incognitotoday ( )
Date: January 22, 2017 01:57AM

Moroni, who? Does it matter which direction an idol faces? NSEW, it's still an idol.

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Posted by: Amyjo ( )
Date: January 22, 2017 06:37AM

Moroni needs a rest whichever way he's facing.

;)

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