Date: June 27, 2013 02:10PM
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As Jesus Smith mentioned each of us have paid a terrible price from the family destroying tactics of the so called true church. We have suffered immensely and our only 'sin' we tell the truth. Daily I receive emails from innocent seekers of truth facing harrowing consequences of choosing truth over fiction. We try not to let these feelings effect our comments on MT.
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The above are my views as managing editor of MT. Now, as Tom Phillips victim of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints I say:-
Elder Jeffrey R. Holland of the Quorum of the Twelve Apostles tells lies, therefore I feel justified in calling him a liar. Now, that may be offensive to TBMs, but let them refute my claim. Here are examples of some of his deliberate lies made in public. They have been pointed out to him, but he refuses to apologise for or justify his claims.
A few of his deliberate lies:-
Joseph and Hyrum died because they refused to deny their faith.
Joseph and Hyrum were martyrs.
The Book of Mormon has been examined for over 179 years and still stands (implying it has not been proven false)
There are no credible accounts of the authorship of the BoM other than an angel delivered gold plates to JS who translated them by the power of God.
Mitt Romney never made blood oaths in the temple - when challenged, he had to admit Mitt had and then tried to spin the matter and make it sound less ridiculous than it actually is.
He knew nothing about the Strengthening the Members Committee, then had to admit he did.
Said he was not a 'dodo' because he had read a few books and went to a good school. Everyone I know who saw that immediately said he was a 'dodo' and that he how he is referred to.
He said to the reporter on TV "give me a list of these people (meaning those who had raised serious questions about the church) and I will meet with them'. He has been contacted a number of times by those willing and eager to meet with him. They have stated they will meet at his convenience, at any time or venue. Not only has he not arranged such a meeting, he has ignored every request. I offer to meet with people while I'm being interviewed on TV, then I immediately reneg. He either lied in making the offer (because he had no intention of having such a meeting) or he changed his mind afterwards because he is a coward. If the latter, he may not have lied but he is certainly rude and disrespectful in failing to acknowledge the requests for the meeting he proposed. Some 'good and noble man' he is. Liar or snivelling coward?
He said as an apostle he does not get involved in politics, then hosted a meeting in his office (where he carries out his apostolic duties) to plan a group supporting Mitt Romney's candidacy for POTUS. (Other GAs were even more actively involved such as Craig Zwick who was a prominent fundraiser for Mitt, using his church email to encourage others to donate).
I could state other lies but that will do for these purposes except the biggest lie:-
He solemnly stated, before God and angels, the BoM was true. That is a blatant lie for all the reasons I outlined in my letter to him. The BoM is proven to be a work of 19th century fiction, written by JS with or without the help of others.
What makes this such a big lie is the fact that Holland knows it is a lie. He of all people. One of his masters degrees is on the changes to the BoM, his PhD is in American Studies. he has a career in CES and president of BYU. He of all people knows it is a fraud. That is why he is so shifty when interviewed by a BBC journalist rather than a tame PR interviewer or fawning admirer. If he were honest and had nothing to hide, he would be able to answer questions and not be flustered and have to change his answer.
My letter to him gave unequivocal evidence the BoM was a work of 19th century, and not a truthful account of a people on the American Continent, replete with scientific and other errors, including those of doctrine important (crucial) to Mormonism. He failed to address one concern because he knew he couldn't. He knows it's a sham
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 06/28/2013 12:10AM by Susan I/S.