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Posted by: Uncle Dale ( )
Date: June 22, 2013 11:44PM

The fact did not occur to me until later in life, but the
racial superiority viewpoint I grew up with was not at all
restricted to just my own family or immediate neighbors.

The general idea was that White People were a master race,
and non-whites were so inferior as to be barely within the
human species -- but, of course they were human, because
natural selection and human evolution were "dammd lies."

I'm trying to recall when I met the first person who thought
of all human beings as equals -- maybe the Roman Catholic
priest I encountered during my high school years. He was an
Irish transplant, sent to ignorant, far-off Idaho on a mission
of mercy. He actually spoke of Indians and Blacks as being
just like "everybody else!"

My father's view of white supremacy was so deep and ingrained
that he never abandoned it for a moment -- not even when one
son married a Jew and another son married an Indian.

So, the progression away from such teachings can be rather
abrupt -- can occur within one decade of a single generation.
I think that what it takes is for us to encounter an alternate
possibility -- and probably at a fairly young age.

My wife, who grew up in a heterogeneous community, surrounded
by all sorts of different kinds of people, can never begin to
understand my own southern Idaho upbringing: 100% White, and
of that population, the vast majority Anglo-Saxon -- with a
fairly large minority of Scandinavians and an occasional German.

....all of whom had been told by their ward patriarchs that
they were of the literal bloodline of Joseph the son of Jacob.

UD

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Posted by: thingsithink ( )
Date: June 23, 2013 12:23AM

"I think that what it takes is for us to encounter an alternate
possibility -- and probably at a fairly young age."

That's what (I think) happened with my Dad. Grew up in the South, but loved Jazz from age 9 on. At 14 he was living in D.C. and hanging with a crowd that would have made some of his family cringe.

Now my Mom, who also grew up in the South in a definitely racist family - I have no idea how she ended up a seriously vocal opponent of racism as far back as I can remember.

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Posted by: Uncle Dale ( )
Date: June 23, 2013 12:58AM

I could never get a firm handle upon what my parents "racism"
actually boiled down to.

They were not segregationists -- would not have joined the KKK
or spent their nights "lynching" the "undesirables." I doubt
that they would have contributed to any overt efforts to deny
the vote to people of color, or to deny legal civil rights, etc.

I'd guess that hard-core racism has some of that political
aspect intertwined with the belief in white superiority. It's
one thing to tell you kids not to ever keep company with
"those people," but it is obviously something extra, when
those same kids are taught how to burn down Black churches
in Birmingham, with other little kids there at Sunday school.

Maybe that's what rescued my own independent thinking at an
early age -- my not having been schooled in overt acts
against "those others" when following my father to John Birch
Society 4th of July picnics. Had I stuck around those hate
group folks a little longer, I might have received some
training on how to suppress minority voting, or "silent"
protests against Black-owned businesses, etc.

I was lucky, I guess.

UD

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Posted by: thingsithink ( )
Date: June 23, 2013 01:19AM

"It's one thing to tell you kids not to ever keep company with
"those people," but it is obviously something extra, when
those same kids are taught how to burn down Black churches
in Birmingham, with other little kids there at Sunday school."

I'd say that's a big difference. Even given my upbringing, I have to admit I react differently to people based on race. On some level I've been programmed to see a black person instead of just a person.

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Posted by: baura ( )
Date: June 23, 2013 01:02AM

A Utah joke I heard a few decades ago:

Q: What is "affirmative action" in Utah?

A: Non-Scandinavians in the Tabernacle Choir

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