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Posted by: Anon Time ( )
Date: May 14, 2013 04:33PM

What is the Church's stance on The Teachings of Spencer W Kimball?

I picked it up at a thrift store and it seems like a wealth of bad advice and controversial opinions. What is their defense?

Is it still sold at Deseret Book and the like?

P.S. Long-time lurker, nice to meet y'all :)

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Posted by: jacob ( )
Date: May 14, 2013 04:35PM


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Posted by: wowbagger ( )
Date: May 14, 2013 04:41PM

I think the OP means this one

http://www.amazon.com/Teachings-Spencer-Kimball-President-Latter-day/dp/0884944727

I am sure it is a brilliant book and will make you a better person. Make sure to follow it up with this one

http://www.amazon.com/Miracle-Forgiveness-Spencer-W-Kimball/dp/0884944441/ref=sr_1_1?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1368564044&sr=1-1&keywords=miracle+of+forgiveness

</sarcasm off>

he is a hateful little man.

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Posted by: rationalguy ( )
Date: May 14, 2013 04:43PM

Some say he was a closeted gay fella, could easily be true.

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Posted by: crom ( )
Date: May 14, 2013 05:40PM

The following quote would be consistent with a gay man enduring his marriage to a woman to the end.

“Soul mates' are fiction and an illusion; and while every young man and young woman will seek with all diligence and prayerfulness to find a mate with whom life can be most compatible and beautiful, yet it is certain that almost any good man and any good woman can have happiness and a successful marriage if both are willing to pay the price.”

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Posted by: Anon Time ( )
Date: May 14, 2013 04:46PM

Yes exactly!

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Posted by: Anon Time ( )
Date: May 14, 2013 04:47PM

Is the book only available used? Is it out of print?

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Posted by: Anon Time ( )
Date: May 14, 2013 04:44PM

No, this:
http://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/0884944727/ref=mp_s_a_1_1?qid=1368563968&sr=8-1&pi=SL75

It was originally published in 1982.
It is not one of the Teachings of the Presidents of the Church manuals.

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Posted by: badseed ( )
Date: May 14, 2013 04:44PM

if it currently embarrasses the Church then it never was doctrine or he was speaking as a man. That works across the board for LDS stuff. Doesn't matter if everyone thinks it's legit doctrine for decades it ceases to be once it becomes a PR liability.

That said it you go to the Church History Library and look at the Presidents of the Church exhibit(s)— a small section for each prophet with selected items from each— I noticed they had a copy of the Miracle of Forgiveness in SWK portion. Surprising considering what that book has in it. "better dead than losing yer virtue" and what not.

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Posted by: almostthere ( )
Date: May 14, 2013 04:50PM

What kind of stuff is it saying?

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Posted by: Anon Time ( )
Date: May 14, 2013 05:24PM

The book itself?
The usual strange Kimball things:

・Masturbation often leads to homosexuality
・Discourage interracial marriage
・Having both spouses in the home working causes "competition rather than cooperation"
・Divorce is evil

And a few I had never heard before:
・gum chewing in public is a sign of bad upbringing and is uncultured.
・gaudy clothes and lots of make up and extreme clothing styles show weakness and insecurity.
・young married couples who postpone children until they get their degrees are after material gain and therefore are guilty of idolatry.

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Posted by: magnite ( )
Date: May 14, 2013 05:41PM

All I remember from the book is reading it when I was 15, and came across the quote that "masterbation is most heinous (sin) in the eyes of God..."

I remember that quote because I had to look up the word "heinous" in the dictionary because by then ...well, I had been a practicing for a long time... :/

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Posted by: Flyinghigh ( )
Date: May 14, 2013 05:57PM

Ah, "The Miracle of Forviveness" - how fu--ing guilty and utterly useless that book made me feel.

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Posted by: albertasaurus ( )
Date: May 14, 2013 06:25PM

Yeah me too. What a sh1tty book

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