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Posted by: nomoe ( )
Date: March 12, 2013 08:03AM

I grew up in the church but never put my head in the hat so to speak.
Growing up in the west I didn't hear the word 'gospel' used so much in general mo speak like it is now.
I also detest all this new LDS Mormon art that members are displaying in there homes. Reminds me the great and abominable church shrines. Also the constant use of the word LORD is so much more apparent in morgdom speak. Is it me or has this always been the protocol in mormonizm. When I grew up we worshipped Joe smith much more. Oh well just an observation that keeps knawing at me.
I saw on

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Posted by: baura ( )
Date: March 12, 2013 08:40AM

The "gospel" is what the leaders say it is at any given time.
Many aspects are in constant flux but tithing seems to be an
unchanging core principle.

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Posted by: Rob ( )
Date: March 12, 2013 01:12PM

The only unchanging gospel is:

Pray, Pay and Obey.

Anything else can and will change as the church sees fit. Anything to appease the governments and draw in more converts.

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Posted by: badseed ( )
Date: March 12, 2013 01:25PM

When LDS say 'the gospel' what they really mean is the LDS Church and Mormonism. Christians usually use it to mean the 'good news' about Jesus. For Mormons it's whatever is necessary to make and keep the Church and it's leaders "true". Evidence is that this changes over time.

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Posted by: thedesertrat1 ( )
Date: March 12, 2013 05:11PM

The word gospel derives from the Old English gōd-spell [11] (rarely godspel), meaning "good news" or "glad tidings". The gospel was the "good news" of redemption through the life and death of Jesus, the central Christian message.[12] Gospel is a calque (word-for-word translation) of the Greek word εὐαγγέλιον, euangelion (eu- "good", -angelion "message") or in Aramaic (ܐܘܢܓܠܝܘܢ ewang'eliyawn). The Greek word euangelion is also the source (via Latinised evangelium) of the terms "evangelist" and "evangelism" in English.

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Posted by: Uncle Dale ( )
Date: March 12, 2013 10:54PM

thedesertrat1 Wrote:
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> The word gospel derives from the Old English
> gōd-spell [11] (rarely godspel), meaning "good
> news" or "glad tidings". The gospel was the "good
> news" of redemption through the life and death of
> Jesus, the central Christian message.[12] Gospel
> is a calque (word-for-word translation) of the
> Greek word εὐαγγέλιον, euangelion (eu-
> "good", -angelion "message") or in Aramaic
> (ܐܘܢܓܠܝܘܢ ewang'eliyawn). The Greek word
> euangelion is also the source (via Latinised
> evangelium) of the terms "evangelist" and
> "evangelism" in English.

Hey, it was what Roman Emperors and Hellenistic kings
used to preface their edicts with:

"Good News! The Emperor has defeated the Parthian barbarians.
Bread and circuses for everyone!

ps -- The Denarius is hereby devalued by one-half.

The Christians simply imitated what people were used to
hearing, in that respect. I suspect that the _original_
religious gospel, from John the Baptist's day, was:
"Good News! God has not abandoned us!"

UD

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Posted by: schmendrick ( )
Date: March 13, 2013 10:59AM

Good news, everyone!

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Posted by: Uncle Dale ( )
Date: March 15, 2013 01:32PM

schmendrick Wrote:
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> Good news, everyone!

Don't you just wish that you could get the job of
writing Dr. Hugo Farnswoth's lines, for a single episode?

I do.

UD

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Posted by: bezoar ( )
Date: March 12, 2013 05:39PM

To annoy my family, whenever they refer to "The Gospel" I always ask them which one - Matthew, Mark, Luke, or John. Or when they say something wacky about "The Gospel" I'll say that it must be one of the gospels that didn't make it into the Bible. "The Gospel of Mary Magdelene? The Gospel of Peter? "Tell me which one!"

I know I'm being immature, but it really throws off their train of thought, and more importantly, amuses me.

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Posted by: StillBurned ( )
Date: March 15, 2013 01:20PM

Maybe immature. But I liked it.

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Posted by: breedumyung ( )
Date: March 12, 2013 10:45PM

My TBM family uses, "Heavenly Father" nearly every sentence...


When they are unsure of the Mormon thing, they always fall back on the 'Gospel of Jesus Christ', which could be anything...

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Posted by: almostthere ( )
Date: March 13, 2013 11:29AM

"Hear it, O ye Elders of Israel, and mark it down in your log books: The fullness of the gospel is the united order and plural marriage, and I fear that when I am gone, the people will depart from these principles which we have prized so highly, and if they do, the Church cannot advance as God wishes it to." (Brigham Young, St. George Temple Dedication)

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Posted by: cajunruby ( )
Date: March 14, 2013 10:27PM

Who knows what the gospel means, when I was a kid in church it was usually used like this... what you said and how you just acted was against the gospel and conflicts with church ideals. Which was just a fancy way of saying that I was a girl and I needed to shut up especially when around men.

Things must have changed like you say. We were never worshipping the lord or Jesus just joseph smith. No one even said the name Jesus. I never heard a single story from the bible. Very telling instance was when a RS charity case single mom and her three year old were paraded up to give their testimony the mom whispered to the kid and the kid says I love Jesus! You could literally hear the shocked gasps and groans along with head shakes and wide suprised eyes.

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Posted by: Infinite Dreams ( )
Date: March 15, 2013 01:28PM

This is what I found growing up -

In many pwople's minds, the church is the gospel, & the gospel is the church. They are one in the same. Because I grew up in a ward with a lot of converts, Jesus was talked about all the time. So, most people in my old ward believed that the gospel of Jesus Christ was the church, & the reverse.

But what that all means, I really don't know. Because there is absolutely no theological literacy in the cult, everything they say, believe, & teach is total bs.

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Posted by: Heresy ( )
Date: March 15, 2013 01:41PM

Doctrine today is defined by the LDS Newsroom rather than the prophets.
http://www.mormonnewsroom.org/article/approaching-mormon-doctrine

They were also the ones who definitively told us that caffeine is OK.

Of course, if doctrine, as they say, is only the canonized works, then what the Newsroom says isn't authoritative canon either....

Nailing jello to the wall.

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Posted by: presbyterian ( )
Date: March 15, 2013 01:42PM

This is another example of LDS creating their own definition for Christian vocabulary. Elder, Priest, Gospel, God, all mean one thing to Christians and another thing to Mormons.

Christians can fall back on the original languages of the books of the Bible to come up with the most accurate translation.

Scientology does the same thing. L. Ron Hubbard rewrote the dictionary in his own words.

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Posted by: rd4jesus ( )
Date: March 15, 2013 01:55PM

According to my Pastor it's the good news of Jesus' saving grace. That we're saved from our sin if we only accept the gift from God freely. Something we don't have to work for.

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Posted by: Uncle Dale ( )
Date: March 15, 2013 03:23PM

rd4jesus Wrote:
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> According to my Pastor it's the good news of
> Jesus' saving grace. That we're saved from our
> sin if we only accept the gift from God freely.
> Something we don't have to work for.

Perhaps so, but I'm inclined to wonder... if THAT was the
actual good news Jesus gave voice to in his ministry?

Perhaps he went around Galilee and Judea saying, "By
my grace you can be saved." Perhaps John the Baptist and
his disciples preached the message that Jesus would soon
die upon a Roman cross and thus supply the atonement
that would actuate that same grace for sinners.

But I doubt it. That may have been what Christians in
300 C.E., or even in 200 C.E. professed to be the Gospel;
but, then again, I'm guessing that they had it wrong.

UD

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