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Posted by: jzinn ( )
Date: February 05, 2013 12:48AM

I stopped going to church when I was 17 years old, 10 years ago. I have recently learned more about what they believe under the radar then when I was in it. I have come across a quote that Joseph Smith said and it is just completely absurd!

Joseph Smith said:
“I have more to boast of than ever any man had. I am the only man that has ever been able to keep a whole church together since the days of Adam... Neither Paul, John, Peter, nor Jesus ever did it. I boast that no man ever did such work as I. The followers of Jesus ran away from Him; but the Latter-day Saints never ran away from me yet.” (History of The Church, 6:408–409.

Sad that they worship him more than Jesus!!

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Posted by: Fetal Deity ( )
Date: February 05, 2013 01:08AM

D&C 135:3:

"Joseph Smith, the Prophet and Seer of the Lord, has done more, save Jesus only, for the salvation of men in this world, than any other man that ever lived in it. In the short space of twenty years, he has brought forth the Book of Mormon, which he translated by the gift and power of God, and has been the means of publishing it on two continents; has sent the fulness of the everlasting gospel, which it contained, to the four quarters of the earth; has brought forth the revelations and commandments which compose this book of Doctrine and Covenants, and many other wise documents and instructions for the benefit of the children of men; gathered many thousands of the Latter-day Saints, founded a great city, and left a fame and name that cannot be slain. He lived great, and he died great in the eyes of God and his people; and like most of the Lord’s anointed in ancient times, has sealed his mission and his works with his own blood; and so has his brother Hyrum. In life they were not divided, and in death they were not separated!"

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Posted by: nickname ( )
Date: February 05, 2013 01:15AM

I remember one member brought up this quote to me when I was a missionary, and he said, What about John the Baptist? If he hadn't baptized Jesus, then Jesus couldn't have done the Atonement, then we'd all be screwed. Or what about Mary? Or even Judas Iscariot? Hasn't everyone involved in Jesus' life done more to save mankind than Joseph Smith?

We didn't have a good answer for him.

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Posted by: MormonThinker ( )
Date: February 05, 2013 12:18PM

More LDS arrogance:

Getting into Heaven only with consent of Joseph Smith

From Brigham Young:
Joseph Smith holds the keys of this last dispensation, and is now engaged behind the vail in the great work of the last days. I can tell our beloved brother Christians who have slain the Prophets and butchered and otherwise caused the death of thousands of Latter-day Saints, the priests who have thanked God in their prayers and thanksgiving from the pulpit that we have been plundered, driven, and slain, and the deacons under the pulpit, and their brethren and sisters in their closets, who have thanked God, thinking that the Latter-day Saints were wasted away, something that no doubt will mortify them - something that, to say the least, is a matter of deep regret to them - namely, that no man or woman in this dispensation will ever enter into the celestial kingdom of God without the consent of Joseph Smith. From the day that the Priesthood was taken from the earth to the winding-up scene of all things, every man and woman must have the certificate of Joseph Smith, junior, as a passport to their entrance into the mansion where God and Christ are - I with you and you with me. I cannot go there without his consent. He holds the keys of that kingdom for the last dispensation - the keys to rule in the spirit-world; and he rules there triumphantly, for he gained full power and a glorious victory over the power of Satan while he was yet in the flesh, and was a martyr to his religion and to the name of Christ, which gives him a most perfect victory in the spirit-world. He reigns there as supreme a being in his sphere, capacity, and calling, as God does in heaven. Many will exclaim - "Oh, that is very disagreeable! It is preposterous! We cannot bear the thought!" But it is true. – Journal of Discourses 7:289 (Oct 9, 1859)

http://mormonthink.com/QUOTES/arrogance.htm

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Posted by: plig ( )
Date: February 05, 2013 12:23PM

And he died in a gun fight.no lamb to the slaughter.
Read John Taylors Carthage account in the history of the church.
No martyr here.

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