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Posted by: rainwriter ( )
Date: January 06, 2013 06:38PM

In F&T meeting today, three little kids said essentially the same thing: "I know the church is true. I know that Joseph Smith was a prophet of God and that Thomas S. Monson is a prophet of God." Even a girl who's leaving on a mission used that same pattern. Is this something that the testimony glove is teaching, or what?

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Posted by: Carol Y. ( )
Date: January 06, 2013 07:21PM

About a year ago, someone posted about that practice in the MTC.

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Posted by: The Oncoming Storm - bc ( )
Date: January 06, 2013 07:24PM

It's not a particularly new concept:

https://www.lds.org/liahona/2008/10/testimony-glove?lang=eng

I remember hearing about some talk an apostle gave way back before my mission in 1991 that these are the 5 essential parts of a testimony.

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Posted by: Rebeckah ( )
Date: January 06, 2013 07:27PM

Are you folks using "bare" for "bear" on purpose? I hope so because it's completely hilarious. Every time I see it I have visions of some sexy young thing (male OR female) doing a striptease and telling about Joseph's fantasy. AND, it seems like something Joseph might just have enjoyed if he'd thought about it.

:)

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Posted by: The Oncoming Storm - bc ( )
Date: January 06, 2013 10:20PM

I know I use it that way on purpose...

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Posted by: Rebeckah ( )
Date: January 06, 2013 10:38PM

I really enjoy the giggle it gives me. :)

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Posted by: rainwriter ( )
Date: January 06, 2013 08:00PM

I'm using "bare" instead of "bear" because with all of the adults, it's like they're laying bare their weaknesses when they bear their testimonies. Almost always, they're sharing stories about how they didn't have enough faith or strength or how they were natural men etc.

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Posted by: Rebeckah ( )
Date: January 06, 2013 10:39PM


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Posted by: rhgc ( )
Date: January 06, 2013 08:06PM

The bishop here nods his head in agreement every time anyone says those magic words in giving a testimony! BTW I never used them. TSCC is not true, JS and Monson are not prophets. My one regret is not being permitted to give that true testimony. Wait, can I? After I resigned am I now allowed to speak? If we can, some fast Sunday we should.

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Posted by: utahmonomore ( )
Date: January 06, 2013 08:11PM

Hmmn, I NEVER got up and bared my so called testimoneycause I never believed any of the bullshit. Guess I was railroaded into that cult.

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Posted by: Nona ( )
Date: January 06, 2013 09:45PM

It's possible that it could've been mentioned in simply a ward level, e.g. a fireside or a primary lesson, rather than the general authorities sending out a letter, writing an Ensign article or giving a conference talk about it.

That said, I also heard about it long before. Occasionally in some wards you get phases where each testimony meeting is dominated by relief society sisters giving massive 20 minute speeches about some emotional event that happened to them during the previous months. When that happens, the Bishop usually tries to subtly stop this happening by arranging for someone to give a talk about how to bear a testimony or whatever.

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Posted by: wendy ( )
Date: January 06, 2013 10:42PM

Sounds about right -- that's what I remember saying, and I'm 40 years old, out for about 15.

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Posted by: Cynthia ( )
Date: January 06, 2013 10:44PM

When I was primary president the theme for the year was on testimony and what you should say. That was several years ago so it might be coming around again.

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Posted by: fossilman ( )
Date: January 07, 2013 12:35PM

It's been the same since at least the sixties.

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Posted by: BadGirl ( )
Date: January 07, 2013 12:36PM


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Posted by: Makurosu ( )
Date: January 07, 2013 12:40PM

Or you could read the rest of the thread.

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Posted by: BadGirl ( )
Date: January 07, 2013 12:43PM


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Posted by: Makurosu ( )
Date: January 07, 2013 12:44PM

More like a flimsy excuse for not reading the rest of the thread.

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Posted by: jpt ( )
Date: January 07, 2013 01:19PM

Regardless, now I feel smarter than the average bear.

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Posted by: saviorself ( )
Date: January 07, 2013 12:46PM

and undress like the locals. Then you can Bare Your (posterior). But if you go to the local wardhouse, make certain that you Bear your testimoney.

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Posted by: fossilman ( )
Date: January 07, 2013 12:50PM


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Posted by: John_Lyle ( )
Date: January 07, 2013 10:09PM

Would that be ursus americanus or ursus arctos horribilis???

I vote on horribilis...

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Posted by: Gazelam ( )
Date: January 07, 2013 12:47PM

Every missionary knows to avoid bringing investigators in on the first Sunday of the month.

A few of my favorite 'testimony' rants.

'Black people like to drive with their windows down in the summer. White people have them rolled up with the AC on. I usually drive with my windows up, but sometimes I put them down because those black people may be onto something...'

'I was inactive for several years. I had 11 piercings. My little sister was crying one day because I wouldn't be able to be with heavenly father. I went up to my room, took all the piercings out except for one, and was suddenly overcome with the spirit...I know GBH is a prophet....'

'I have a testimony of food storage. When I left my wife, my wife and daughter were able to live off of the stored food until she could find a job. Otherwise they probably would have had to go on government assistance or something...'

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Posted by: BG ( )
Date: January 07, 2013 07:44PM

Did she happen to mention exactly where that difficult to get at piercing was?

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Posted by: emmahailyes ( )
Date: January 07, 2013 06:36PM

About 3 years ago I was ready to leave the cult but was still working with TBM DH toward that end. Every TM I would listen very carefully to check who really testified of JS being the profit\seer. Very few do anymore...primary and old sisters mostly. I'm in the very center of the USA so we have old converts and Moridor know-it-alls. We had an ubber TbBM Moridor couple move in and I noticed he wasn't bearing his testimony. I had him pegged as a nom. A year or so ago he became the Bishop so every 3 months he has to testify. So far he has never said the church is true or that Joe was a profit. Lots of fast footwork ending with Christ is his savior which is odd in mormondumb. I often catch teachers saying some factoid that came straight from here or other internet source......that is so sweet.

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Posted by: SusieQ#1 ( )
Date: January 07, 2013 07:00PM

It's been the core of the testimony is to make those kinds of claims of beliefs as in "I know." There are times when someone in the bishopric usually will caution people that it's not time for a travel log, but for personal experiences of their faith.

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Posted by: BG ( )
Date: January 07, 2013 07:40PM

When I was a missionary, we had an investigator that we made promise she would come to church. She was an older lady, in her late 60s or early 70s and had led a bit of a wild life. As it ended up she needed a shot of courage to come so she drank a fair amount of something and showed up at Fast and Testimony meeting and was moved by the spirit and got up and bore her testimony of the Church in a slurred drawl ...using the three point formula she heard the kids using as quoted above ( this was in 1978) the members were both appalled and delighted ....

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