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Posted by: elee ( )
Date: December 30, 2010 08:03PM

Mormon Apologists are absolutely shameless at stealing and re-tooling other cultures to fit their ridiculous Mormon-centric worldview.

As if the inherent racism in the BoM isn't bad enough, we have to watch these moops denigrate native cultures. So, you think your Cree or Pawnee and you know the story of your history and your people? Nope! Sorry! WE understand YOUR culture better than you ever could and we are here to tell you, your are LAMANITES. That's right: north american proto-Christians!

And it doesn't just end with the indigenous peoples of the Americas. Nope. Polynesians are Lamanites, too!

Quetzlcoatl? Clearly, he's JESUS!

It drives me Bat Shit Crazy (BSC)! Is it not the height of arrogance to tell a group of people that they, themselves, are not the keepers of their own history and culture? That it's the MORMONS who keep that in trust for you? Ya know, till you become all white and delightsome 'n such?

Sorry, this is a bit fractured as far as posts go, but I've been thinking a lot about this lately.

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Posted by: me ( )
Date: December 30, 2010 08:22PM

It is a bunch of effing bs.

Oh, those injuns are so stupid.




I know what we can do.




They won't be a problem at all, it is so easy.




We can even end the slave-trade with Africa and get into the slave-trade ourselves.




All we need to tell them is that they must accept slavery to atone for the sins of their ancestors.




And it came to pass that the injuns were smarter than the whites.







'Cos only white folk bought it.

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Posted by: voltaire ( )
Date: December 30, 2010 08:48PM

Every European power that established colonies in the Western Hemisphere tried to erase the native cultures that they discovered. Smith with his "marry the Indian women and make them whiter and delightsomer faster" (which I still think was a sneaky ploy to get his hands on some of the free land that the U.S. government was distributing to the Mississippi Valley Indian Nations during the 1830s - 1840s) was neither the beginning nor the end of that.

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Posted by: elee ( )
Date: December 30, 2010 08:57PM

Well, I'm not naive enough to think Mormonism is any different than any other imperial force in world history. Same bat guano, different day.

It isn't just that they are seeking to eradicate whole cultures a la Manifest Destiny, but that they are even to this day supplanting other cultures' identities with their own version.

Even with the demotion of Lamanites to only being "among" the ancestors of native americans, the avercage BoM apologist is still willfully, and against all known scholarship, misrepresenting these cultures to satisfy their own personal agenda.

As if Manifest Destiny and all that it entailed isn't bad enough, LDS Inc. Moops are still raping and pillaging any native culture with any sort of coincidental overlap to justify Mormonism.

It irks. :)

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Posted by: anon ( )
Date: December 30, 2010 09:28PM

What a handful of Mormons did:

http://www.byhigh.org/Alumni_U_to_Z/Watkins/ArthurV.html

Sroll down to "Watkins’ Ill-Fated Tribal Termination Policy"

Here are the Mormons that were involved in it:

Arthur V. Watkins

Hyrum Rex Lee

Ernest Leroy Wilkinson

John S. Boyden

Here are a few additional links about it:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Indian_termination_policy#Legislative_figures

http://www.nrcprograms.org/site/PageServer?pagename=cin_hist_terminationpolicy

http://www.mpm.edu/wirp/ICW-97.html

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Posted by: elee ( )
Date: December 30, 2010 09:55PM

Very interesting. Thanks! I had no idea!

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Posted by: anon ( )
Date: December 30, 2010 10:01PM

http://www.ldschurchnews.com/articles/26615/Prophet-pays-tribute-to-Utahs-pioneers.html

A posthumous award honored the work of Arthur V. Watkins, "a revered statesman and public servant."

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Posted by: me ( )
Date: December 31, 2010 09:46AM

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/d/dc/Lee_County_Half-Breed.png/300px-Lee_County_Half-Breed.png

A Half-Breed Tract was located in Lee County, Iowa, roughly near 40.52°N 91.47°W. An 1824 treaty between the Sacs, Foxes and the United States set aside a reservation for mixed-blood people related to the tribes. The land contained approximately 119,000 acres (480 km2) lying between the Mississippi and Des Moines Rivers. Under the original treaty, the half-breed people had the right to occupy the soil, but individuals could not buy or sell it.
In 1834 Congress repealed the rule. Immediately afterward, claim jumpers claimed much of the land. The government gave away mixed-blood peoples' claims to the land, effectively ending this Half-Breed Tract by 1841.[5][6][7][8]
The Mormon Joseph Smith, Jr. purchased parts of the Half-Breed Tract, probably in 1837, from a land speculation company. Deeds to most of the land were faulty and could not be held. This left the church with only about 1,000 acres (4.0 km2), including a town called Commerce in Illinois. The Mormons moved to this Illinois site from Far West, Missouri, to escape the Mormon extermination order by Missouri Governor Boggs.[9]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Half-Breed_Tract
It happened even earlier. They were fast learners.



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 12/31/2010 10:06AM by me.

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Posted by: rodolfo ( )
Date: December 31, 2010 10:11AM

Fun Fact: Smith changed the name of Commerce, Illinois to Nauvoo FYI.

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Posted by: Dave the Atheist ( )
Date: December 31, 2010 01:13PM

The area of Nauvoo was first called Quashquema, named in honor of the Native American chief who headed a Sauk and Fox settlement numbering nearly 500 lodges. By 1827 white settlers had built cabins in the area. By 1829 this area of Hancock County had grown sufficiently so that a post office was needed and in 1832 the town, now called Venus, was one of the contenders for the new county seat. However, the honor was awarded to a nearby city, Carthage. In 1834 the name Venus was changed to Commerce because the settlers felt that the new name better suited their plans.

In late 1839 arriving Mormons bought the small town of Commerce and in April 1840 it was renamed Nauvoo by Joseph Smith, Jr., the founder of the Latter Day Saint movement. The name Nauvoo is derived from the traditional Hebrew language with an anglicized spelling. The word comes from Isaiah 52:7, “How beautiful upon the mountains...” It is notable that “by 1844 Nauvoo's population had swollen to 12,000, rivaling the size of Chicago” at the time.

After Joseph Smith's death in 1844, the population of Nauvoo was subject to considerable change. In 1849, Icarians moved to the Nauvoo area to implement a utopian socialist commune based on the ideals of French philosopher Étienne Cabet. At its peak, the colony numbered over 500 members, but the death of Cabet in 1856 caused some members to leave this parent colony and move elsewhere. In the early and mid 20th century Nauvoo was primarily a Catholic town, and the majority of the population today is Catholic.



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 12/31/2010 01:15PM by Dave the Atheist.

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Posted by: cludgie ( )
Date: December 31, 2010 10:24AM

I've sat through many a lesson where they accuse Jews of not knowing their own religion, and how only Mormons know what they really believe. I love it when I hear them say that the LDS temple is just like the temple of Solomon.

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Posted by: elee ( )
Date: December 31, 2010 01:33PM

I had no idea a rant would turn up such interesting additional info. It's all new to me!

Erin

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Posted by: ExBozo ( )
Date: January 01, 2011 07:41PM

It used to piss me off no end when I was a member (in the UK) that they'd coerce/force cultures like Koreans to wear bloody Western suits and ties! Nobody else's culture or clothing is good enough for the Mormon Military Machine. "Wear the uniform or you'll rot in hell" seems to be the message. Well, as the church is a business, I guess business drone suits are required.

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