I was in the temple in the last several months and I just saw a post about how they no longer flip flop the robe over opposite shoulders.

Is this true?

Do they just put it on the one shoulder and leave it the whole time? (Damn, I've already forgotten which shoulder is the more righteous one...)

<to the tune "Choose the Right">

Choose the left, for ministering of angels.
Choose the right, for Melchisedek priesthood,
Remove your shoes, when your switching twixt the priesthoods,
Glare a those who take too long to tie their bow.

First knuckle, Second knuckle,
Stigmata, pinky swear, & slit your throat.

Green Apron, Cheap beret.
Grab eachother's shoulders through the nipple slits

(yes, I suck at rhyming haha)

Why don't they just get rid of the silly robe all together? Or at least the stupid hat. The robe is at least explained in the ceremony, but the hat never is, other then to give the men something so they have less of a WTF over the women having to cover their faces.

If you can get someone to wear the hat, you know you've got 'em...

The hat sets morg apart, they aren't going to throw away something that sets them apart and works as a test to see how far members are willing to go in support of their fairytale..

is because, get this, the last time I did a session, I ended up with my robe on "inside-out" at the veil. Now tell me how you know the robe is inside-out? I had to take all the "accessories" off and redo them. I'm surprised they didn't make me redo the session or just tell me they'd resubmit the name (but now I know they didn't have to worry because they know they redo the name).

I had even taken a good friend with me to make sure I did everything right--and she has been through a thousand times--but I still got stopped for something. I hated going to the temple. I'm an introvert--I avoid situations that call attention to me.

If that did change, it was very recently. I know for a fact that it was still done as recently as June 2012.

I'll ask my still TBM spouse, too...

I can confirm that the robe switching hasn't changed.

Agreed, it is very anxiety causing. Drop it!

So far today you have used 12 names. And the day is early. In this thread you have also been:
bump cuz i'm curious too
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Wow! How sad is that?

The temple is weird enough on its own. No need to embellish things.

;o)

Thanks Susan.

The changing of the robe is THE SECOND most anxiety creating event in the entire endowment ceremony. I hate it.

The first... being asked to serve as the witness couple. FREAK OUT.

I knew a guy who could do the change without untying anything. Somehow he slipped in one arm and out the other, it was done in the proverbial blink of an eye.

Temple workers forbade it, though. Apparently, the undressing part was symbolic too; I seem to remember that you had to take off your shoes and put them on again too. Twits.

This guy's last name wasn't Jukes, was it?

My MTC companion did that. Apparently that's how their family showed him how to do it when he went the first time (Southern Utah)

He pulled it off his shoulder, twisted the whole thing 180 degrees around his body, slipped his right arm in, and then twisted the apron 180 degrees so it was back on his front.

It was kinda silly to realize that it was as simple as that.
When they announce it, it's heck-of hard to remember:
First Time:
--Hat bow left
--Robe left shoulder
--Sash bow on the right
Second time:
--Hat bow right
--Robe right
--Sash bow left

...it's sad that I remember that, and more sad that my brain will never get that storage space back.
I also wasted too much brain power memorizing "Health to the navel, marrow in the bones, strength in the loins and in the sinews. Power in the priesthood be upon me and upon my posterity through all generations of time, and throughout all eternity" (might not be verbatim any more [as it's been a few years, and you never know when they'll change it])

That's exactly how my Dad showed me when I went though the first time, which was in good old Dallas Texas... Maybe it's a popular method. Did it like that every time from then on, never had any complaints from any temple worker ever.

Yup...I got busted for being efficient w the robe switch too. I was told I had to untie it. Seemed pretty stupid.

yep, I was mortified once when, fairly new, I forgot to take slippers off and replace, and a worker pulled me up on it and I had to do the whole procedure again while everyone else was sat down and waiting for me to finish. Was shaking from head to toe in embarrassment, all the while thinking it was all my fault for being so stupid.

The TEMPLE is what's stupid. And the geriatric temple workers believe they've already become Gods so they get to boss everybody else around.

;o)

no place to put things...the damned theater seat flopping up

just a stressful, stupid, pointless exercise

I look back now and truly believe it is one of those things where folks in power giggle to see how far they can push people

"Hey Frank, watch this...I bet I can have these nitwits take those stupiod clothes off and oput them on again...and they'll pay to do it...."

I think I felt a little smug that I could righteously wait for the command to remove the shoes, while others had to get a head start. I would still beat everybody at the switcheroo and be seated first. I've always been good with my hands, knots, and ropes.

My first time through, I sat the packet on the floor under my chair. The head guy about came unglued. Another time, I had my shirt sleeves rolled up. The guy made a point to tell me to unroll them, but wait until the lights went out so that I wouldn't draw attention to it. Those workers can get worked up over the dumbest little things.

dressing and undressing stressed.me.out in the sessions. You didn't want to be the last one standing up, while everyone sat there watching you. It was a 'reverant' race amongst adults, where you mentally patted yourself on the back on a job well done if you weren't last. And yes, those stupid chairs did not help matters at all. oy vey

I just wasn't going to race everyone. The fun part was when you have to take your whole outfit off and redo it on the other shoulder. I used to take my time and do everything right. They would wait for me to start the movie again.

I never knew what to do with the packet. If you tried to put it on your theater seat, it would slide off onto the floor. So I would stand there and balance it to free up my hands. They'd be looking at me, and I'd take my sweet time. lol

Can someone explain the robe switching. I never did anything beyond baptisims for the dead

Here's the super quick version:
--Watch video about creation/Adam & Eve = put on your "apron" (like fig leaves Adam wore cuz he was embarrassed

--Get kicked out of Eden, but Christ gives them "animal skin" outfits = this is what your garment represents

--You learn about the Aaronic p-hood (& Adam gets it) = put on your p-hood robes on the left shoulder (& a hat & sash which seem to have zero additional meaning) [the robe is like a toga]

--You learn about the Melchizedek p-hood (& Adam gets it) = switch your robe to the other shoulder (also switch the sides for your hat's bow and the bow on your sash)

--Now you are ready to go to the veil in your fancy CK duds (no, not Calvin Klein, but Celestial Kingdom)

I never told anyone, and I did it as quietly as possible.

I tied my bow, sewed it in place and put velcro on it. I did the same with the sides of the robe, and the apron. Left the bows tied, but had velcro to attach everything with speed. The challenge was not letting anyone hear the velcro. You have to do it slow, but you have plenty of time.

I thought it was an excellent solution. My TBM sister still uses my velcro idea. We never told anyone because we knew if the entire room was ripping velcro that they would put a stop to it.

Oh, the whole temple thing was anxiety provoking for me. I used to bring deoderant and perfume with me so i could put some on in the change rooms so i would know they are 'working'.

I memorized everything fast so i wouldn't have to worry about that.

i also hated the change/ switcheroo stuff and hoped i wouldn't be the last one. I didn't have to worry much cause dh was very slow at it and i could beat him, so at least i wouldn'tbe the last in the room standing :(

was worried that i wouldn't say it right/ do it right good enuf for those poor people who were so anxiously waiting for their work to be done. i bet they weren't as anxious as i was doiing it!!

I could never keep the robe on either shoulder, damn thing kept slipping off, it was always half way down my arm.

My grandma taught me the secret the first time I went.
The robe has 2 ties
the tie under the shoulder it is on should be just long enough to make the tie under the open shoulder close all the way so that the rob material touches.

That way the robe is at a sharper angle, giving it more friction against your shoulder and making it less likely to slip off.

...so just in case you go to a toga party and decide to wear your old temple robe, you'll know the secret ;)

This thread makes my head spin! I was a convert and lasted only a year and a half. I got to do dead dunking, but that's all.

I can't imagine going through the endowment and all this weird stuff.

Oh no, it's not a cult...YIKES!