I took a call from the bishop asking if I was coming in for a tithing "audit"...
I told him no and he was at a loss for words.
Many calls later to my spouse he guilt-ed them into going in and shook them down for money we don't have.

The TSCC must have a goal to collect More money because I have never seen the pressure so heavy to pay,pray and obey and clean toilets. Pretty soon I bet we see invoices in the mail and interest charge for not paying your " voluntary" donation.

They don't even realize when they have gone too far...

Who's "them" in your "he guilted them into going in"?

Ron

"just sayin"

I still don't get it. You said the Bish called you and you said no. Then you said the Bish called your spouse and guilted "them" into going. Is the "them" your kids? I'm confused.

spouse and kids.

"Them" has become a perfectly acceptable gender-neutral third-person singular pronoun in colloquial speech and writing. Give the guy a break.

mateo Wrote:
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> "Them" has become a perfectly acceptable
> gender-neutral third-person singular pronoun in
> colloquial speech and writing. Give the guy a
> break.


Matt? is that you? Are you that Matt whose home I've been in and you and your wife claimed you needed and intervention to stop me from making strong coffee? LOL

Ron

Sadly, no. That sounds like a great story! I'm just an exmormon dude with an apparently too-common moniker.

In the early days, there was a poster here "Mateo", with whom I became pretty good friends. While in SLC, I stayed with himself and his wife. One morning, they were in the kitchen and stopped me for an intervention. LOL I like strong coffee AND I'm an early riser. Bad combo for them. :)

Doesn't want to reveal whether it's wife or husband.

Wouldn't it be nice if English had a genderless, indefinite pronoun like Spanish does? [su]

Maybe I've been out of the loop too long.


"They" seems more useful and less confusing than "Them" but neither are correct.


ex. "Someone ate my cookie. I hope they liked it". (Not correct but comprehensible.)

"Someone stole Joe's cookies so he punched them."(Not correct and less comprehensible.)

"They" and "them" are basically the same pronoun. One is nominative and one is objective. You'd have a hard time coming up with a non-arbitrary reason why using one is any more comprehensible than the other.

And again, in *colloquial* speech/writing, it's just fine. I wouldn't use it in a novel or a technical article, but this is a fucking message board. Ease up a little.



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wow what will "they" say about me...useing caps and lower case in the same word!!! OH MY!! "thE Horror THe Horror"!



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bignevermo Wrote:
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> wow what will "they" say about me...useing caps
> and lower case in the same word!!! OH MY!! "thE
> Horror THe Horror"!

See now that shit is just wrong.

:)

Yep!! JusT WronG!! :)

mateo Wrote:

"You'd have a hard time coming up with a non-arbitrary reason
why using one is any more comprehensible than the
other."

Not hard at all. Look how many posts it took for his meaning to be clear.

Now, I'll agree to drop it if you will.

Bishop: called...Mr. Inactive I'd like to have you come in for tithing settlement with your wife.

Me: I said I don't do TS- what I donate is confidential to me!

Bishop: Oh.. well is your wife there where I can ask her if she would like to come in?
Me: No... Bish hangs up pissed!

Bishop: called back and left messages for wife to call him.

Wife: Called Bishop & went in for audit/shakedown guilt trip.
Wife made no money but got guilted into paying money against my wishes. Paying tithing from savings that she already paid tithing on.

Wife: If you pay more you will get more...

God it never ends!They want it all!
Why I wrote the post anon and the way I did is because I am embarrassed and sick my wife loves the tscc more than me and will give them all if asked.
I have no control ( bad word I suppose) over her when it come to the GD church.
I am considering the big "D"

Wow! We were seriously low key this year. In prior years, letters were sent out with appointment times. This year, it was back to sign up. This past Sunday, it was announced they were done, the cut off for donations for this tax year, and that if anyone wanted to do tithing settlement, they could make a specific appointment via the exec sec't.

No calls, no muss, no fuss.

The Mormon Church really knows how to exact its pound of flesh. They probably would never do an invoice as that would leave documentary evidence, whereas they can just deny what you've said.

Also, sorry you're getting replies based on your pronoun use rather than the actual experience.

Some BP been doing thing like this for a long time and some will ask for a W2

I posted uot of order above.
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Ok... here is the simple version of what happened

Bishop: called...Mr. Inactive I'd like to have you come in for tithing settlement with your wife.

Me: I said I don't do TS- what I donate is confidential to me!

Bishop: Oh.. well is your wife there where I can ask her if she would like to come in?
Me: No... Bish hangs up pissed!

Bishop: called back and left messages for wife to call him.

Wife: Called Bishop & went in for audit/shakedown guilt trip.
Wife made no money but got guilt-ed into paying money against my wishes. Paying tithing from savings that she already paid tithing on.

Wife: If you pay more you will get more...

God it never ends!They want it all!
Why I wrote the post anon and the way I did is because I am embarrassed and sick my wife loves the tscc more than me and will give them all if asked.
I have no control ( bad word I suppose) over her when it come to the GD church.
I am considering the big "D"

,

Either that or put your $ into an account where your wife can't access it -- which will probably lead to the big D anyway.

When trust is gone, so is the marriage. There are worse things than a divorce and personally, I think most people would be much better off and happier without the signed piece of paper.

If you were 'just together' without the paper, she would respect you and the living arraingement a hell of a lot more. Just saying.... better line up your ducks.

But people weren't clear about who was being spoken about.

And I imagine everyone agrees that the bish's behavior is outrageous. No quarrel there.

TELL THEM THIS
1. "tithing" is a charitable donation
2. If you think it is an unsatisfied debt call a lawyer and sue me.

I don't blame you - because there is more at work here than meets the eye.

1.The bishop is deliberately undermining your marriage in the name of the Lord.

2.Your wife is a fool for letting him do so.

3.Your wife has her loyalties mixed up.

4. Hard to have any kind of marriage when the cult comes first.

Oh sweetie, your situation sux. I can totally understand your frustration and anger. Your wife is completely brainwashed and the Bishop is a d*ck.

Do me a favor though darlin' and don't do the "D" thing over Christmas. Just enjoy your holiday, let things rest for a time, and re-examine the situation in the cold hard light of January.

Yeah again, the Bishop is a d*ck.

No doubt.

;o)



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