Laurel 2nd counselor (because, hey, there were only 3 of us... not hard to figure that one out, even with out inspriation) Laurel President Seminary Council member CTR4 teacher with my husband when we were newly married Sunday School teacher for the 12-13 year olds, again after we were newly married and a Nursery worker/teacher
Primary teacher (age 6) Primary teacher (age 5) Primary teacher (sunbeams) Primary presidency Nursery leader x3 (different wards) 12 year old sunday school teacher Ward bulletin coordinator Relief Society counselor Relief Society Enrichment board more times than I can count
EQP Pres. of Seventy ( back in the 80's) HP group leader YM Pres. SS pres. Counselor to all of the above Family History library worker Ward Exec Sec. (twice) Activities committee
Ward Missionary (again) Assistant Ward Mission Leader Ward Mission Leader, total of 3 calls (once where I went to college, once when I moved to Logan, once when I moved back from Africa) Elder's Quorum Second Counselor (let go because I admitted some of the naughty stuff I did) Ward Mission Leader Elder's Quorum Second Counselor (huh... you'd think they would have learned their lesson the first time) Ex-Mormon Evil Apostate Sinner
Ward, Branch, Primary, Choir & RS Pianist Back-up Ward Organist (at one point it was the Back-up Back-up Organist) Activities Committee RS 2nd Counselor (3 times) Homemaking/Enrichment/whatever the heck they call it now Leader(several times) Primary Chorister YW President Stake Girls Camp Director Ward Girls Camp Leader Stake Girls Camp JC Leader Choir Director (2 times) Records Extraction (STOOPID calling at college) Person to call people to invite them to attend the Marriage Prep class at YBU (another STOOPID calling) Sunbeam Teacher RS 3rd Sunday Teacher GD Teacher (with spouse in our married student ward)
At most I held 5 callings (stake and local) all at same time, but usually I held 2-3 at a time
Now I am a Primary Pianist only since coming off Formal Discipline
The dumb thing is - during probation, I wasn't considered "worthy" enough to hide behind a piano and play songs.
Not sure if I "bs-ed" exactly . . . at the reconvened council, dh bore my testimony for me, because I wouldn't. That seemed to make them happy and I was given back full membership/member in good standing status. I only went through the process for dh, which is also why I still attend and have a calling. Yup, I'm faking it until I can figure a way to extract myself without trauma to the kids. (it will get U.G.L.Y. - my whole family, both sides is UBER TBM and I would be an "unfit" mom at the very least if I am not mormon according to them . . . )
He bore your testimony FOR you? Did he get it right? Or was it his wish list?
I can see how that would happen though. A couple of times hubby and I went in together for TR interviews. The bish. would ask me a question while looking at my husband, and he would answer! It always amazed me. The bishop didn't even seem to be aware that I wasn't answering to him for anything. I let them get away with it, because I thought it was funny.
If that happened anyplace else I'd be pointing it out and put a stop to it.
Everything that a good testimony should be. DH did a fine job - but it was his, not mine. Even if he said it was mine. I was dealing with extreme emotions. They changed the clerk - didn't warn me ahead of time, so there was a new face when I walked in there, another person to know of my "evil ways" I refused to go in without dh. So - 5 men, all priesthood holders and me. I was so upset about the new person, angry at the whole affair, humiliated and the Bishop wanted me to talk about how the Atonement had helped me through the repentance process and what it meant to me. Then he wanted me to bear my testimony. He never said I was forgiven. They all seemed so happy with dh's testimony for me. Just said "here's your TR back and you're in full standing". Dh and I got in an argument over it later - I expressed how upset I had been by the different/new clerk in there with no warning. He said it was a privilege and honor for the clerk that the Bishop bestowed on him. I thought - great - why not make it an Elder's Quorum activity and what a blessing and privilege it could be for ALL the men in our ward to sit in judgment of me. And we shouldn't leave the HP out either . . .
HATE the whole ordeal. still. Useless, humiliating and stupid process.
And hate that I subjected myself to it. But I was still trying to hang onto belief and hoping it would be what it was supposed to be . . .or at least what I was told/taught it was supposed to be.
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Because it's not their place to decide if you're forgiven or not. Only God can do that.
The other reason is, because the church NEVER forgives. I've had things come up that happened almost 40 years ago. No kidding. That event helped me realize how sick and twisted that church is.
I doubt for some reason that they would ever let the woman do the talking for the priesthood holder. Suggests the high level of sexism still in the church today
primary teacher yw secretary yw president Laurels teacher emergency preparedness coordinator food storage bully rs teacher taught 16 year olds ss homemaking leader x3 ward party planner (a lot) rs teacher again girls camp counselor x2
For some reason I was always called in to be in charge of/ or assist in ward parties. I always insisted on good food, and I never once stayed in budget. I always told the bish. if they wanted a good party, it was going to cost them. If they wouldn't give me free rein, I wouldn't do it. I have a rep for giving beautiful and fun parties.
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Dumpweed, it's funny to me that a current Bishopric Counselor is on this board.... Just helps me to realize how many people you seen as being active are in fact questioning or don't even believe. It gives me hope, thanks for sharing.
eternal1 Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Dumpweed, it's funny to me that a current > Bishopric Counselor is on this board.... Just > helps me to realize how many people you seen as > being active are in fact questioning or don't even > believe. It gives me hope, thanks for sharing.
Let me tell you, it isn't easy. I am stuck in a rather difficult spot right now that I am trying to figure a way out of. For personal reasons, I need to stay incognito for the time being as far as my questioning of my faith goes. I sit in the car every sunday morning before I go into bishopric meeting and ward council and take a few deep breaths and kick off the feelings of anxiety.
Now that I have taken a step back and to the outside the inner circle and look at what we as mormons do from a different perspective, it is actually quite fascinating. I cant believe i never saw it before as a TBM.
I sit there on the stand each week and look out into the congregation and would estimate that most are sitting there out of an obligation to honor a cultural tradition, family pressures or out of obligation to fulfill a calling. It seems to me, very few (and there are some) are there because they truly enjoy it. our stake prez visited our ward a while back and he made the comment to the bishop that nobody in our ward smiles or seems happy.hmmmmmmm
I think you personally owe it to the congregation to keep your eyes open during all prayers and roll your eyes anytime anyone else sees you.
I was stuck as EQP for almost 2 years because I wasn't ready for the impact on my marriage I knew was coming when I told my wife. Sorry you are in this spot.
I stopped going because I discovered the lie and attending was too painful for me. I held no prominent position so leaving was not overly complex for me except for conversations on the topic with my parents in my ward. I was branch president once a while back amongst other duties. But I've been more of a jack Mormon in recent years. Not resigned yet but I'm out. I couldn't possibly imagine what kind of pain you're going through and the dynamics of your situation. I feel for you buddy. Keep on here, you'll get fellowshipping unlike anywhere else as you can vent freely and anonymously. I feel so much better with the like minded people here. I hope you find a way out. I obviously don't understand much detail about your situation but couldn't you ask for a release citing personal reasons or stress? Then just gradually fade into Lds non existance?
Sorry you're in this situation. I do understand what you mean.
I figured it out last Feb and continued to go, but saw it all from a different perspective and wondered how everyone could believe. After listening to a member bare her "testimony", repeating over and over how she "knows" that TSSC is true, I just realized they were all trying to convince themselves. It made me feel a little sick to know I was part of that sham simply by being there. I was lucky in that my wife also figured it out with me. We both came up with excuses and told the bishop that we couldn't do our callings anymore. We haven't been back for a couple months.
The bishop stopped by last sunday and picked up the keys to the church. I really wanted to tell him not to bother us anymore, but, living in this community, we aren't ready for that yet. We'll just quietly disappear.
I remember how hard it was to sit there and listen to the crap. I think if I continued to go, it would only be a matter of time til I questioned everything everyone said and pointed out all the untruths. They would just ex me and that isn't what I want.
In our ward, the number of people that are there because they want to is limited mostly to the older people (habit) and some very devout younger ones. Most are there because they have to be. In EQ, the pres was talking and said that if it wasn't for the women pushing us to go, there wouldn't be any guys there. Sad but true.
I wish you luck as you find a way to extract yourself. Keep in mind that your family is more important than the religion.
President of all three YW classes Seminary class president Primary pianist Primary teacher choir director Institute rep VT supervisor Primary teacher Primary music chair VT supervisor Ward reactivation project
2nd Counselor in Relief Society Relief Society Teacher Relief Society Secretary Visiting Teacher Coordinator Visiting Teacher
Primary Teacher - Star A; Sunbeams; Blazer A and B Nursery Teacher Sunday School Teacher - 13 and 14 year olds Gospel Essentials Teacher (the sunday school class for investigators and the missionaries who teach them)
Cub Scout Leader Adviser for certain badges for the Boy Scouts
Adult chaparone for Girls Camp (in other words, I took the girls in our ward and was responsible for supervising our girls during camp)
Family History Center Worker Teacher of Family History (some of my classes include never-mos -- this "calling" I still do even though I have dropped out, at least those classes that I teach at the local PUBLIC library)
2nd Counselor to the stake Public Affairs Specialist
Earliest to latest: Various Aaronic Priesthood presidency positions as a YM Various Scouting positions Missionary (ZL/DL) Various YM/Scouting positions High Council Various YM/ Scouting positions
So basically, I was in the YM program until I was 18. Then I got called to serve in the YM program. After my mission, I served in the YM program, then got called to the High Council at age 27 or 28 (can’t remember what committees I served on, but it was probably YM). Upon release, I was called to more YM callings. Any interim time between my YM callings, I got to hang out with High Priests who were double my age. After turning 18, I think I spent maybe 3 or 4 Sundays with my peers. Outside of that, I was with kids or old folks. The good part was, having never really been in an Elder’s Quorum, I never had to schlep people’s crap when they moved, just because they were members. Raked many an old widow’s leaves in the YM, though, so I figured I paid my dues.