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Posted by: forbiddencokedrinker ( )
Date: July 09, 2012 01:26PM

Are any of them skilled enough to win a case in a state where the courts were not stacked in favor of the church? The skill of a lawyer is normally dependent on his charisma and level of intelligence, something true believing Mormons are not known for.

I mean years ago, when they tried to build the Nashville Temple, the church was clearly having its rights violated and none of their lawyers could prevail against the local good old boys. Hardly something that speaks to their skill as great legal minds.

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Posted by: flyboy21 ( )
Date: July 09, 2012 01:32PM

I met a church lawyer once. I was teaching him to fly. He was absolutely brilliant and I don't think many human brings would have wanted to match wits with him. The church was handsomely compensating him for his service.

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Posted by: Glo ( )
Date: July 09, 2012 02:22PM

Your tithes at work!

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Posted by: thingsithink ( )
Date: July 09, 2012 04:10PM

If they are a believing member of the mormon church, they are lacking an important skill any decent attorney would be expected to have.

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Posted by: nickerickson ( )
Date: July 09, 2012 02:15PM

Corporate lawyers are very, very, very good at what they do. The lawyers for the church are of the same caliber any large corporation would keep on retention. They are very good, and each one is specialized in what they do. Just like maritime lawyers for large ship companies, they are specialized and will win. Guaranteed. I've seen it numerous times in my job, and the company always wins. If they know they can not win, they settle out of court so it does not set a precidence.

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Posted by: m ( )
Date: July 09, 2012 02:30PM

IIRC there are 129 Corporate Lawyers in the new Diggs at City Creek

The Church must be Twoo

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Posted by: anon for this ( )
Date: July 09, 2012 03:43PM

Did you know that the COJCOLDS legal office tried to tell the US Government that Mormon was a real person?

Look close on page 4 - "The word "Mormon" has its origin in the name of an ancient American prophet who compiled and abridged the writings of several other American prophets who lived between the years 600 B.C. and 400 A.D. into what is commonly known as The Book of Mormon."

"http://tdr.uspto.gov/jsp/DocumentViewPage.jsp?78161091/IPC20031021074524/Paper%20Correspondence%20Incoming/7/02-Oct-2003/sn/false#p=1

In their attempt to trademark the name "Mormon", they declared on legal documents that a fictional history was real.

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Posted by: forbiddencokedrinker ( )
Date: July 09, 2012 03:46PM

OK, but how many of them are on the caliber of Jewish lawyers?

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Posted by: Mia ( )
Date: July 09, 2012 03:46PM

My stepson just graduated from law school.

One of my worst fears is that he will eventually go to work for the church. The thought of it makes me sick.

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Posted by: Stray Mutt ( )
Date: July 09, 2012 04:11PM


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Posted by: elcid ( )
Date: July 09, 2012 04:29PM

I had a Jewish lawyer once in a severance dispute. He wrote one letter on my behalf and waited a year and a half for a response and never followed up. I fired his a$$ and got a new attorney and he filed a federal lawsuit and the issue was settled in 10 days.

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Posted by: snb ( )
Date: July 09, 2012 04:32PM

It takes some pretty serious charisma to sell religion. Mormons can definitely be charismatic. As far as intelligence goes, that is a harder one to see. Intelligent people tend to stay in religion for longer than less intelligent people. This is mostly because it takes some serious brain bending justifications to accept something even as basic as prayer.

In essence Mormons can easily be both charismatic and intelligent.

However, we can't assume that church lawyers are devout or believing. Perhaps they just like the nice salary they are paid.

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Posted by: thingsithink ( )
Date: July 10, 2012 10:01AM

"It takes some pretty serious charisma to sell religion. Mormons can definitely be charismatic."

I'm sorry, but this started my day off with a belly laugh. That is some funny stuff. Charismatic. :). Like general conference? Who, the guys that show up at the door who've been strippped of any individual thought? Charisma? The tabernacle choir?

I spent seven years around mormons and, my apologies, but I found the gatherings to be the most drab, souless, get togethers. And the humor? My only cue that I was supposed to laugh was seeing them laugh. Aside from that, I often had no idea anything funny had happened. It was brutal.

Charismatic? That's more than a tip of the hand. You've revealed more than you realize. Talk to forbiddencokedrinker, maninblack, and so on. They can point you in the right direction. Here's the good news. When you start to get a whiff of charisma, you're going to be digging it.

In the meantime, thanks for starting my day off with a kick.

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Posted by: forbiddencokedrinker ( )
Date: July 10, 2012 01:39PM

Wait, I have charisma?

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Posted by: Anonymous User ( )
Date: July 09, 2012 04:36PM

Well they can not build a mall anywhere near budget. What does this say about calling top business men to the priesthood?

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Posted by: Lethbridge Reprobate ( )
Date: July 09, 2012 06:43PM

There has been one at work in the Cardston, Ab area, representing the church and a TBM land owner (can we say conflict of interest?) to get land rezoned so the MORG can build a young womens camp on some pristine ranch land next to the Rocky Mountains...non-mo ranchers opposed to the rezoning have described the process as a quote "a kangaroo court". Go figure...



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 07/09/2012 06:45PM by Lethbridge Reprobate.

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Posted by: deco ( )
Date: July 09, 2012 06:55PM

One would hope that no matter how big or smart the army of lawyers, they cannot change facts.

In the words of the late great Pat Moynihan "You are entitled to your own opinion, you are not entitled to your own facts"

With that being said, the present American condition of perception being considered reality and people being instructed what to think instead of how to think, it is a sad situation because the truth is lost in the effort of corporate interests such as the goals of LDS Inc.



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 07/09/2012 06:55PM by deco.

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Posted by: T-Bone ( )
Date: July 09, 2012 09:41PM

It was actually a Mormon who convinced me to go to law school. He was a really genuine guy and being around him helped me realize that you don't have to sell your soul to make a living as a lawyer.

Any job is honorable if it is done with integrity.

I just feel sad that lawyers for the Mormon church are wasting their talents helping a fraudulent organization stay afloat.

T-Bone

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Posted by: forestpal ( )
Date: July 10, 2012 03:59AM

I'd rather be a criminal defense attorney.

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Posted by: JL ( )
Date: July 10, 2012 09:49AM

forestpal Wrote:
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> I'd rather be a criminal defense attorney.


Who do you think defends for the biggest pseudo-religion/corporation? Ha.....

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Posted by: Stumbling ( )
Date: July 10, 2012 06:16AM

This would be an interesting comparison:

Amount of money spent on lawyers vs Amount of money spent on humanitarian aid.

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Posted by: Lethbridge Reprobate ( )
Date: July 10, 2012 01:52PM

The MORG considers money spent on humanitarian aid as poor investment, compared to malls and temples....

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Posted by: forbiddencokedrinker ( )
Date: July 10, 2012 09:56AM

You know what you call a thousand lawyers on the bottom of the ocean?

A start.

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Posted by: druid ( )
Date: July 10, 2012 10:12AM


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Posted by: m ( )
Date: July 10, 2012 11:47AM

topping for the LDS lurkers who have no Idea about the Army of Lawyers at City Creek

http://www.ksl.com/?nid=960&sid=19967780

"It's not really the building we're dedicating," Elder Wickman said. "It's really us, in our devotion, in our service, giving the best that we have to give in our professional capacity, realizing that in doing so we are not just representing another client, but we are representing the church of Jesus Christ himself."

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Posted by: rationalguy ( )
Date: July 10, 2012 01:48PM

So in MormonLand, Jesus has lawyers! nice.

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Posted by: forbiddencokedrinker ( )
Date: July 10, 2012 05:05PM

He learned from painful experience. Last time he went to court without a lawyer, he got nailed.

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