One thing that led me out was constant judgment from members towards people in our ward. One lady was disgusting. She would only associate with her "perfect" little friends. (oh the skeletons she had in her closet). She would throw a party in her yard for her neighborhood, and leave out anyone not active or members. Anyways, just one of many. One thing that pissed me off and was one of the final straws for me. My wife got a boob job. Not porn star size, but definitely big. So many of the perfect angels, judged the @#$%& out of her, and talked bad about the new boobs. Funny thing is, 2 of them have recently gotten them too. It is like they want to bash on the boobs in, public, but personally want new tits to help her sexless, boring marriage.

Anyone else had this same certain experience? " judge not that though be judged" right??

P.s....God bless silicone!!!

My motto is "If you can feel them, they are real."

Well, that's one of my mottos for boobs!

Sounds like typical LDS hypocrisy from the judgemental ladies...

It's not just the members; it's their huge army of apologetics and leaders as well.

They have pointed fingers at and made accusations against other religions (mostly Christian denominations), but they themselves have done and are still doing the same things.

A few examples:

1. Altering what's in the Bible is not OK, but altering what is in the BoM is perfectly OK.

2. Bruce R. McConkie said it was evil for the Pope to be called "Father," but it is perfectly for mormons to call a mormon bishop "father of the ward" in their official publications.

3. It is wrong and evil for other denominations to change the rituals that are ordained of and instituted by God, but it is OK to change temple rituals, which they claim to be ordained of and instituted by God through revelation.

The list can go on and on and on....

excellent points!!!

Before passing judgement on a woman's new boobs, I would first need to see them and feel them!

I feel no judgment towards anyone who gets a boob job, but I wanna shout, "Why?!!!" As a naturally big gal, they're frankly a nuisance. In my next life I'm coming back as a flat-chested woman. I can't imagine anyone wanting big ones ON PURPOSE!

...until a close friend said her breasts had shriveled like prunes following four kids, all of whom were breast fed. The implants were like reconstructive surgery to her.

Others just want that "full" feeling again. I've had to rethink my stance on boob jobs knowing how many of my friends truly needed them. To each their own (or two).

Omg I totally agree with this. Nursing babies DESTROYS your boobs (I'll just leave it at that). I fully intend to get my boobs done once I get a job. I just want to feel normal again. No judgment here!

I'll tell ya why! Because being flat-chested SUCKS, that's why.

Being judged all your life as not a real woman. By both men AND other women. It's the first damn thing people see. Clothes not fitting right and never being able to find a bra in your size- and no I am not going to go without. Feeling ugly and sexless. Hell, even construction workers are silent when I pass by.

Too bad if you can't afford implants, though. I'd get some in a heartbeat if I could. Maybe then people would look at me different.

+10000

Funny. A couple of years ago, I attended a ysa branch. I was having dinner with some of the female members one night, and i expressed wanting to do the opposite...get a reduction.

They looked scandalized, even when I said they bothered my back, and did absolutely nothing to improve the quality of my life, and would get worse if I ever got pregnant.

Strangely, when I pointed out that it would make modest clothes shopping easier, they seemed supportive.

Oh hell yes! Its super easy for my flat chested sisters to be modest, but anything I wear is deemed "slutty" because I have DDD's. I was always embarrassed to show ANY cleavage, but now that I'm out of TSCC and garment-free, I'm proud of my girls and have let them breathe!

I'll say I'm a naturally flat gal--

Speaking in terms of judgmental people--I grew up with this. My dad wasn't very active and he definitely DID NOT want callings. My mother was raised by 2 deaf parents and wasn't very social--so we were one of the families who wasn't accepted. No problem asking my mother to babysit their children while the cool ladies went to lunch once a month. Oh--how lucky you were to be invited NOW AND THEN if they felt like it.

The stories I could tell!!!! I hated the women in our ward for how they treated my mother. She was by no means the only one treated that way either. There is a lot of bullshit that goes in mormonism--do a search for "Mormon Royalty" on this board--there is a list someone made--too true.

I had 3 siblings leave the church in their teens for how our family was treated. But, me, I just had to STAY.

I worked with a guy--he and his wife RAN A LOT. She was extremely thin and nice looking--and the ladies in the ward told her her face would fall if she kept running like that.

A lot of mormons are petty middle-schoolers.

I'll say it again--my "ex" knew how to play the mormon social game. I was treated better in mormonism while I was "with" him and he was cheating with men. The ward ADORED HIM--worshiped at his feet--no lie. The YW loved him and the divorcees loved him--and the single girls from our old single's ward loved him--and they all rejoiced when he left me. We've been "married" 29 years--and even after they know he is gay, the women from the single's ward are still after him and they make rude comments about me and "why I won't let him go." I've let him go--we just happen to be friends and he ain't looking for a wife.

Anyway--I experienced this type of treatment all my life. I just thought I HAD TO be mormon or be damned.

Imagine if GBH would have given guidelines for boob jobs.

We do not, however, take any position on the minimal augmentation of the breasts by women of one cup size—one cup size only.

Good for your wife. I got a boob job 9 years ago and I love them. I have no regrets and I would absolutely do it again if I had the choice to make over. I was a flat A cup. I had no cleavage even with push up bras I couldn't make cleavage. I was a tiny girl, but I did have cruvy hips and but and I looked unbalanced with nothing on the top. I was constantly made fun of in middle school and high school for being flat.

I went to a C cup which is just average looking, no porno boobs, but it was a huge change on my body. It was the biggest the surgeon could actually go with the width of my ribcage. Clothes fit me now. Most dresses and tops are cut for boobs, and look funny on a woman without them. I can yell it from the rooftops, "clothes fit me now and it is wonderful and my cleavage looks freaking awesome." I like to wear scooped tops and show them off, when I'm not at work that is, they look fantastic.

DH and I were moving a lot and I rarely went to church so there was no type of RS revealing of them, so I don't know about mormon judgement, but so many women get them now why do women care, oh that's right-they have nothing else to do because they're stuck at home with kids all day and they want SOMETHING to talk about with other women who also have nothing else in their lives to do. I bet no one outside the church cares that your wife got a boob job. They probably told her how great they look. My non-LDS friends told me how great I looked, how much balanced and proportional my body now was.

I'm from the East Valley in Arizona. The majority of Tbm women there have boob jobs (at least in the affluent areas). That is fine with me if they want them however...

It is a pretty crazy double standard that tattoos, peircings, etc are not okay but implants are. Don't you dare put coffee in your body but go ahead and put permanent foreign objects in.

I am friends with many a TbM lady with implants who talk bad about people with tattoos. Tattoos are bad because you're not supposed to alter your body, right?

It would be so funny if the prophet came out against implants.

I think the Church Handbook has a bit in it about the evils of cosmetic surgery.

against implants. The main reason? Too much tithing money is paid by the very wealthy guys putting them in!

The city with the largest per capita cosmetic surgery? Not Orange County, Not LA, Not Dallas. Salt Lake City, Utah.
Bet a lot more ward members have had a "little work" done than, Utah gentiles.

I am aware of a few different TBM's getting boob jobs, including a SP's wife.

For those of you ladies contemplating a boob job, please don't be greedy. There is nothing more unnattractive than two softballs sticking straight out from a small woman's chest.

I totally agree, JOB...it actually looks silly...and very unnatual..

I have perfect breasts...I am a 34 B...They fit perfectly in a palm...

Yes, I have had children..and breast fed...but they have stayed perky and best of all..they are healthy

Many problems with breast implants...1) just going under the knife is a huge risk..2) increased risk of infection 3) adhesions.4) bursting..

I love mine...and that is what matters...Guys like breasts any way they are...

*Swoon*

Ha! Or as I like to say, cantaloupes sticking out of your chest!

Personally I think natural is best. There is a clinically proven method to growing breasts naturally without surgery especially for those deflated looking after breast-feeding boobs. It's called Brava. I used it ten years ago after breastfeeding. It works but it takes time and dedication. I won't go into how it works, I'll let you google that. I was normally a full C cup, after breastfeeding barely could fill an A cup. The brava system brought me back to a full C, and they hang naturally, if ya know what I mean.

I think that when it's reconstructive, that's an entirely different scenario. I guess because I've had 8 surgeries in my life, I would think twice about purposely putting my body through surgery unnecessarily. But I wouldn't try to talk someone out of it, if they had their heart set on it.

And I guess it doesn't matter if you're large or small. Bullies just find anything they can about you to make fun of. There's actually nothing wrong with you. It's the bully who has the problem.

I just got called Dolly Parton as I walked through the malls and I heard the snickers as I went by. So small or large, you still get comments. And I don't know how many times I'd be at a dance and the guy was not looking at my face. I wanted to take my fist and knock his chin up. "My eyes are up here!" I always found that behaviour degrading. You see people, men and women, struggling to keep their eyes on your face. Their eyes go up and down, up and down, and you're like, "Hello? I can see you doing that!"

I was bullied because I had a big nose and yes, I had a nose job when I was only 14 because of it. My parents just didn't know what else to do. Now that I'm older, I'm not sure if I'd choose to do it again, after all the surgeries I've had to have over the years.

But again, if you run into a bully, it won't matter what they find to make fun of. It's not about you. It's about them.

Just know that it's very difficult for them to see breast cancer on a mammogram if you have implants.

I think a lot of women (and men too) get breast work done just to feel normal.

I've been considering a reduction for many years to just be able to blend-in and not be the chick with the rack, the woman assumed to be stupid and/or an easy lay (I've blond hair too, cripes) or the butt of jokes.

I've had to work very hard at maintaining my self-esteem because of my breasts and the negativity I've received from others. And, in a way, I'm grateful cause I do have pretty good self-esteem now. And I wonder if I would if I not had the "opportunity" to work so hard at it.

I'm still planning a reduction at some point but I do sort of feel like betraying 'two friends' ;-) who taught me a lot.

It would be great to live in a world where breasts were just breasts and not subject to so much angst whether it's like mine, or from LDS Mollies, or from bullies or from thoughts of not measuring up... whatever. But we don't and aren't we lucky to live in a time when we can chop off bits, add bits and recreate bits. I say, hell yes!

(that was strangely therapeutic)



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As a straight male who worked on a dairy during high school years I gotta state that a woman's boob size is NOT on my list of things to worry about.

as long as you're not an asshole about my own choices. I've toyed with getting breast implants, but I have a reasonable size and they're quite perky, so I'll keep Cheech and Chong the way they are.

It is scary though when women (and men) have body dysmorphic disorder and go this far:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-x1o--T3y0k

I won't be suprised if this woman dies from MRSA if she keeps going larger.

Itzpapalotl Wrote:
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> as long as you're not an asshole about my own
> choices. I've toyed with getting breast implants,
> but I have a reasonable size and they're quite
> perky, so I'll keep Cheech and Chong the way they
> are.
...

> I won't be suprised if this woman dies from MRSA
> if she keeps going larger.


Too Late; I think stupidity already's got her.

Hey, yours are boys too! Mine are Bert and Ernie. ;-)

Can you tell me how to get, how to get to Sesame Street?

All I have to say is, I'm perfectly happy with the way I am, and when my TBM husband started asking me to get breast implants, I told him that he'd just have to find another girl with bigger boobs. I divorced him shortly afterwards.

I have never been in a Utah ward that didn't have a potential porn-star walking the halls.

A Primary President was a dead look alike to Rachel Welch and dressed even sexier. The kids had no idea what to think and basically were numb as she conducted every Sunday in her stilettos and black stockings.

Let's raise the roof for Fake Boobs ~ (Provo Ward Motto) Amen and Hallelujah ~ Everyone has them and "it's okay,"

But, Heaven forbid you had two piercings in your ear.

It's about making statements:

~I might have 7 kids but I could get any man in this ward if I wanted.
~I need them after breast feeding nobody want saggy boobs.
~I have no self esteem without them.
~The RS Pres. has them and she's a spiritual giant.
~I know I would be a happier person on the inside.
~I'm just not pretty without them.


Just ask any Porn-Star why they have Fake boobs and I bet you might get a few of the same responses.
I don't miss my Rated X Utah Wards.

BTW, if anyone actually wants a fair and impartial judge for their breast implants, I am available.

I have a hard time understanding people going under the knife unnecessarily. Surgery always has risks involved and then there's the money involved to have it done. Some of us have to have surgery just to stay alive. To have another surgery just to get implants seems silly to me. Sure, I'd love to have perfect boobs but it's not worth the risk and quite frankly, all the women around me that have boob jobs look like clones of each other. Sorry if that seems judgmental, but they really do look alike.