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Posted by: Luke ( )
Date: June 29, 2012 01:08PM

The results of the Brazilian 2010 Census were released today.

And lo and behold: self-identified Mormons in Brazil are only 226.509 !

And the cult boasts over 1 million! LOL

In the previous census (2000), Mormons were 199.000.

Yes, phenomenal growth!

Other incovenient facts for the LDS cult:

* Population of Brazil: 190 million...

* JW's: 1,3 million

* Adventists: 1,5 million

* Catholics: 123 million

* Baptists: 3,7 million

* Assembly of God: 12,3 million

* Spiritualists: 3,8 million

* No religion: 15,3 million


Fastest-growing religion?? Fast-growing religion?? Yeah right.

And let us not forget the cult considers Brazil one of its most successful areas...

ftp://ftp.ibge.gov.br/Censos/Censo_Demografico_2010/Caracteristicas_Gerais_Religiao_Deficiencia/tab1_4.pdf

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Posted by: runtu ( )
Date: June 29, 2012 01:11PM

That's about what I'd expect. I would imagine a significant number of self-identifying Mormons are not active, so that means the activity rate is probably somewhere in the teens.

The church sucks at membership retention.

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Posted by: runtu ( )
Date: June 29, 2012 01:13PM

This also means that the folks at Cumorah.com overestimated membership by some 30,000 members.

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Posted by: abinadiburns ( )
Date: June 29, 2012 02:21PM


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Posted by: hello ( )
Date: June 29, 2012 08:50PM

Hey Mormons---the church you support is a big liar. That makes YOU a big liar. You'd better go repent, fast.

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Posted by: xyz ( )
Date: June 29, 2012 01:12PM

Mormonism: World's Fastest-Shrinking Religion!

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Posted by: flyboy21 ( )
Date: June 29, 2012 02:24PM

If it were a wang, they jumped into one very cold and chlorinated swimming pool.

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Posted by: jaredsotherbrother ( )
Date: June 29, 2012 03:39PM

Does the chlorine make a difference in shrinkage?

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Posted by: flyboy21 ( )
Date: June 29, 2012 07:20PM

I dunno... always seemed that way to me. Very scientific observation, I know.

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Posted by: jaredsotherbrother ( )
Date: July 03, 2012 01:54AM

Probably the smell, chlorine makes things smell smaller.

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Posted by: Mary ( )
Date: June 29, 2012 02:06PM

All is well in Zion. Yea !

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Posted by: flyboy21 ( )
Date: June 29, 2012 02:15PM

The only thing that surprised me is how big the Ass of God has gotten there.

A friend who went on a mission to Chile said that "numbers" mean nothing down there anyways. In some of the more left-leaning South American countries, being baptized into a minority religion brings some financial incentives, so they'll get baptized and stay long enough to get their official paperwork and you'll never see them again.

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Posted by: alex71ut ( )
Date: June 29, 2012 03:14PM

Official news from the church says:

http://www.mormonnewsroom.org/article/brazilian-senate-honors-church-and-its-members

"Church membership in Brazil now exceeds one million, making Brazil the country with the third-highest number of Mormons — after the United States and Mexico."

http://www.mormonnewsroom.org/facts-and-statistics/country/brazil/


Precise count is 1,173,533 as of Dec 31, 2011



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 06/29/2012 03:15PM by alex71ut.

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Posted by: rqt ( )
Date: June 29, 2012 03:19PM

I can't even tell you how much this makes me smile. I'd love to start seeing the numbers for other countries.

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Posted by: Heresy ( )
Date: June 29, 2012 03:26PM

The 2000 census found 205,229 members.

The church was claiming 850,000 at the time, with 12 temples.

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Posted by: politicaljunkie ( )
Date: June 29, 2012 03:35PM

"The LDS Church claims over a million members in Mexico...
As of year-end 2006, The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints (LDS Church) reported 1,082,427 members, 207 stakes, 1,434 wards, 495 branches, and 6 temples in Mexico...

2000 Census figures however report only 205,229 Latter-Day Saints"

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Religion_in_Mexico

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Posted by: politicaljunkie ( )
Date: June 29, 2012 03:46PM

According to the 2010 census, the number of Mormons is 314,932 (of which 146,813 are men and 168,119 are women).

The increase in Mexican Mormons according to the census numbers from 2000 to 2010 is 53.5%.

http://www3.inegi.org.mx/sistemas/TabuladosBasicos/LeerArchivo.aspx?ct=27455&c=27302&s=est&f=1

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Posted by: DanielL ( )
Date: June 29, 2012 03:48PM

Results of Mexican 2010 Census as reported in Wikipedia under the title of Mexico:

Direct quote from Wikipedia: “The 2010 Census reported 314,032 members of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, though the church in 2009 claimed to have over one million registered members. About 25% of registered members attend a weekly sacrament service, although this can fluctuate up and down.”

Church membership in Mexico as reported in 2010 Census:

Catholic 82,7%
Evangelicals 5.2%
Pentecostals 1.6%
Other Protestant or Reformed 0.7%
Jehovah's Witnesses 1.4%
Seventh Day Adventist 0.6%
L.D.S (SUD) 0.3%
Non Christian 0.2%
No religion 4.7%

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Posted by: Luke ( )
Date: June 29, 2012 06:42PM

The LDS cult has had a presence in Brazil for almost 100 years, and what do they have? 226.000 members. (In a country with almost 200 million inhabitants.)


Something is VERY wrong either with their message or with their conversion/retention techniques... (Or both.)

A local cult, the Universal Church of the Kingdom of God, was founded in the late 1970s and today has over 1,8 million members in Brazil. (According to the same census.)

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Posted by: Eric K ( )
Date: June 29, 2012 07:38PM

Here is a very obvious lie - Brazilian Mormon membership claim. This claim is easily disproven through the census.

Let's look at the JW's in Brazil:

From their official web site - http://www.watchtower.org/e/statistics/worldwide_report.htm

2011 Peak Witnesses: 742,425
Memorial attendence: 1,748,226

That compares favorably with the census of JW's in Brazil of 1.3 million.

Hell, the JWs are more honest than the Mormons.

The Mormon church can not effectively argue that the census understates its numbers. Why are the other similar groups not under counted?

Mormon church claim: 1,173,533 as of Dec 31, 2011 Census figure: 266,506 The Mormon church is quite bold in its lying. That is far too large a difference to be a statistical error. A factor of 4 times can only be construed as a big lie.



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 06/29/2012 07:39PM by Eric K.

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Posted by: Susan ( )
Date: June 29, 2012 08:43PM

Mormons are a drop in the bucket in Brazil, one of the cult's strongholds.

Now think of Europe or Asia...

The Mormon cult is totally irrelevant in the world.

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Posted by: Fred ( )
Date: June 29, 2012 09:15PM

Regrettably I baptized 29 people over the course of my 2 years there. Did not keep in touch so not sure about retention but pretty sure most, if not all, are no longer attending. Did have a great time and now love soccer and brazil.

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Posted by: ozpoof ( )
Date: June 29, 2012 09:22PM

They'll spin it that because of persecution, members in Catholic households were coerced into declaring that they were Catholic, or some such BS.

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Posted by: hello ( )
Date: June 29, 2012 09:27PM

But such a small number of increase in self-reporting Mos doesn't even amount to all the kids that the self-reporting Mos in the year 2000 should have had in the last ten years! Parents usually fill out the census forms, and report all their kids as LDS too. But the number is still this small!

Lots of families must have left or stopped reporting as LDS.

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Posted by: Carlos ( )
Date: June 29, 2012 09:37PM

A huge number of Brazilians are baptized only to get rid of unbearable American salesmen, and NEVER set foot in a Mormon chapel again.

They simply do not consider themselves Mormon, that's why they are not counted in the census.

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Posted by: anonno ( )
Date: July 02, 2012 01:48PM

In all censuses from Latin American countries the number of persons indicating that they are Mormons is about 20% of the number of members that the church claims to have in that country in its own membership statistics.

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Posted by: SayHi2Kolob4Me ( )
Date: July 03, 2012 02:08AM

What I wish is that reporters would stop saying "one of the world's fastest growing religions". STOP SAYING THAT! IT'S NOT AT ALL TRUE!!!!

Sorry for yelling.

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Posted by: rt (not logged in) ( )
Date: July 03, 2012 02:45AM

Population growth in Brazil has dropped significantly over the past decade. That means that the mormon church is now growing faster than the population. In time, all Brazilians will be mormon.

How long will this take? Let's see, if we assume LDS population growth to be the same as non-LDS population growth in Brazil, the 27,000 head membership increase between 2000 and 2010 is largely organic, leaving about 3,500 retained converts during this decade.

So with a conversion rate of 350 per year (a whopping 0.18 retained converts per unit) in a country of 190 million inhabitants, this will only take 542,857 years (if the conversion rate remains constant).

There's more good news from an LDS perspective: Brzail's economy is doing really well. Even if membership numbers are relatively stable, income from tithing and donations will increase.

It's win-win for the corporation, too bad for the bitter old exmos. And more so for the fleeced flock.

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Posted by: xxMoo ( )
Date: July 03, 2012 04:14AM

And 7 temples ... Sao Paolo, Recife, Porto Alegre, Campinas, Curitiba, Manaus, Fortaleza.

http://www.ldschurchtemples.com/maps/brazil/

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Posted by: nickerickson ( )
Date: July 05, 2012 07:35PM

I work in Brasil and you know, people are just not religious down here. I have met more people that are theist or athiest or just don't give a shit - like me. People will ask, "Você acredita em deus? E eu perguntarei, você acredita em Santa?" They just laugh and we drink. All is well out of zion!!!

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Posted by: mrtranquility ( )
Date: July 06, 2012 04:09PM

The census represents those who self-identify as Mormon and many of those probably cannot manage to drag themselves to attend. So the activity rate is lower than 25% which jives with other reports I've heard. A 25% activity rate would be at the high end for Central/South America. The low end is ca. 11%.

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