In my entire lifetime i've never seen a prophet that was so silent. Just picture of him sitting and smiling. No opinions, nothing. In this time of turmoil, with members dropping like flies, shouldn't a prophet have something to say?

He's scared his dentures might drop out if he talks.

Mormonism no longer has anything to say. But Daniel Peterson and Mike Ash were saying it anyway. Monson kept his jello receptacle shut.

He still has a job.

Imagine how terrifying it would be to become king and realize how unqualified for the job you truly are.

Gordo was a first-class scam artist. Tommy is second rate. He has no clue what to do. The Audi A8 Security is a nice touch. When I become dictator of my small breakaway nation someday, I'm gettin me one of those!

Oh yeah,me too. Nice wheels. At least he has good taste in cars. I just find it interesting that he's been running his mouth for my entire life (58). Now that he's in charge, he suddenly lost his voice. Do they think nobody notices this? Is he incapable, or is he being told to shut it? Maybe both? The PR people know that just about every thing that comes out of that mouth is a fairy tale? The days of fairy tales are over. It would be a bitch to be king just in time to have no power and no say in anything. The kingdom is getting the big flush. The king can't say a word about it. I never thought I would see any thing like this in my lifetime.

Please, please, please let Apostle Packer blow a gasket while speaking in October General Conference and tell his truth, his whole truth, and nothing but his truth about Mormon doctrine--the UNwhitewashed version--while making it clear he's speaking as TheLard'sAnnointed and not as a man.

Don, I love your posts. lol@Jello receptacle.

Yup. And what is this low-l(ie)ing telling everybody? The mormons are ashamed of something or trying to hide something? Don't know ... but would like to figure it out.

It is verrrrrry interesting, indeed...

I'll take one too! Maybe in a different color....

Orange with cerulean racing stripes? :-p

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> Orange with cerulean racing stripes? :-p


Switch those colors around and we have a deal. :)

Honestly do they even call him a Prophet anymore or just President of Mormon Inc? What was the last revelation the Church had? All the talk of being special having a modern day prophet such BS.

How can you be the Prophet if you haven't been on a mission? Don't you think they would send he and his wife(who is she?????) to be mission pres somewhere before he became the big boss? POOR PLANNING!


Who is his wife? I really don't know?

It is Sister Monson, or if you prefer, Mrs. Monson. Since women have no identity, she doesn't have a first name except for the one she will hear through the veil.

For the record, Monson was president of the Canadian Mission from 1959 to 1962.

Not at all.

In my memory, most of the prophets who have "spoken" outside of Cardboard Conference have caused no end of trouble.

Think back to Gordon B. Hinckley pulling the strings behind Benson as they read the "personal" remarks that they prepared for him. He shut the f up after that whole John Birch Society/Freeman's Institute scandal went up in flames.

Then came Spencer W. Kimball with his oral sex fixation when he discovered BYU students were indulging and then going to the temple. No one could stop the outrage or keep him from insisting that the Lord had nothing to do with "The Negro" getting the priesthood, that it was an administrative decision.

That was the last prophet who actually thought he was in charge. Hinckley knew he was the man behind the curtain, so he was afraid to die and stopped lying just when the lying was needed the most.

So now when a prophet ascends, I picture him having a meeting with The Committee. There he is told that he is a figurehead. That billions of dollars are involved here and that the European bankers have politely requested that he not speak lest it have an adverse effect on "revenue streams." He is told that experience has taught the Brethren that the less said the less chance for misunderstanding, therefore, he is required to raise his hand to the square... and promise that he will allow himself to be killed in a humane way, via injection, in a hospital, as was done before, with Harold B. Lee.

The new prophet gulps. What do you mean?

And a particularly wizened GA leans forward and says, "He.. accepted his consequence with honor."

So it was not a heart attack?

No. He was removed.

So you look at Tommy Monson, the lover of widows, who used to be garrulous and genial. He thoroughly used to enjoy all the attention, remember? All that is gone now and what you see is someone going through the motions. A figurehead with lips stretched over teeth but no happiness, no joy.

When I covered the smile and looked in his eyes, I thought they looked numb or dead. Especially compared with the past leaders who actually believed they were the chosen one.

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How can it be called conspiracy if it is a fact?

The cousin of Bro. Lee said there was NO heart trouble/disease in their family, and nothing wrong with his heart.

When billions are at stake, it's motive enough for removing the 'problem'.

The leaders of the corporation sole are lifeless.

It's a job to be a figurehead... and all it requires is to be without integrity.

They are the worst of the lot, and if not, they soon sell their souls because they have their family and lifestyle to lose if they tell the truth about the corporation that masquerades as a church.

Why would anyone want to do away with Harold B. Lee? I thought he was a nice enough guy.

Cabbie told us he was planning to make the announcement to give the priesthood to "The Negro."

Powerful people did not agree. And of course, we all know there is no actual prophet. Just the figurehead.

Cabbie feels strongly that he was not murdered; however, I disagree. Any time you have an appointment for life, you are going to have unexpected deaths.

It happens in Catholicism, too--ironically the "other" mouthpiece-of-God religion.


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Steve Benson has a post in which he describes in detail the contortions the GA's went through to prop up Ezra Taft Benson and arm-carry his diapered august self to Conference.

His account is chilling. If I am remembering correctly, he was drugged pretty heavily even before the dementia set in, due to his radical and embarrassing conspiracy theories, paranoia, etc.

I hope Steve will repost that if someone can flag him that we are asking for it.


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I would guess that is a strong possibility. Also, he doesn't seem to have the same personality anss GBH who seemed to love the limelight. Monson not so much.

"Believe, obey, endure."

Sad to get to the top like this.

I think the crazy fundies are his greatest danger needing Security.

pay some teen-age girls to go chasing after the car as he leaves as event every once in a while.

How much power does the president of TCOJCOLDS hold, and how much must he follow the directions of pR people and perhaps others? Does anyone know? And if he's supposed to follow directions, what would those giving the directions do if he refused? Plan a convenient accident? Does anyone know

He is waiting on a Conference Call from God...and waiting...and waiting...

Any oldsters like me who remember Communism? The types of leaders of that movements like Communism or Mormonism produce tend to follow a particular historical arc.

Joseph Smith was Mormonism's Lenin: innovative, dynamic, and without scruples. Brigham Young was its Stalin: suspicious, brutal, and power-obsessed. Monson is its Brezhnev or Chernenko.

Mormonism has ALWAYS reminded me of the old Soviet Union style of Communism. They sit up there at general conference and look just like the politburo used to back in the day. A bunch of old white men running a bureaucracy, carefully crafting the words of their speeches. Boring as hell meetings. All the while they are clueless to what the masses are really thinking or at least afraid to say anything out of the norm for fear of losing their power.

When I was a TBM youth I looked at Communism as Satan's counterfeit to the church. Hahaha. Little did I know the church was just a bureaucracy run by old men, just like Soviet Communism used to be.

gets the strange gift that he can hear what other people are thinking.

then he steps next to the blonde and nothing.

total silence.

that may be what is going on inside the head of Count Chocula.

The Brethren may be having a "Weekend with Bernie" moment.

Since the words out of GA's mouths are total BS anyway, it's not important that TSM hasn't made any grand pronouncements. Watch what the church is actually doing instead. What are the policies? What's in the lessons and publications? What's being reorganized, expanded, consolidated or disbanded?

There is a real talent to making it up as you go along. That is really difficult to pull off if you are one step behind, with a glazed over look in your eyes.

And besides, all the good prophecies have been taken.

I can picture Monson getting up the last day of conference after everyone else has spoken and saying, "Oh,... I was going to say that."

Like something you would read in Readers' Digest during the Eisenhower administration. Everybody loves a good bedtime story.

The beginning of the Internet ushered in a new age in mormonism. They have realized that anything a profit says can (and will) be used against them. They were already moving toward a corporation not run by a profit, but driven by market surveys. That lead to changes in temple ceremonies (oaths and naked touching). With the change from Gordo to Tommy, the PR department has made the transition to mutism more complete.

I'm sure the Big 15 with the help of their public relations department has come to the conclusion that a profit can now and foverevermore NEVER say anything more than basic stuff as they try to mainstream into Christianity.

The profit is now limited to speaking about:
Love your neighbor
Be nice to everyone (especially widows if you are Tommy)
Attend the temple
Pay your tithing
Be obedient to the Profit

They are hoping that Tommy continues to stay healthy so they don't have to try to stage manage the grizzly bear.

Good take on it. "...stage manage the Grizzly bear"--too funny.

It was Oaks who said that to Steve Benson about Boyd, that you can't stage manage a grizzly bear.

Why would Tommy say much, now ?

Tommy has already done everything that he set out to do, which was make it to the top of LDS INC.

Thats all Tommy had in mind. He got a big boost young head start from HBLee. He made it. Good enough.

Hinckley was the one who was going to show everybody else up. Gordon was going to blow things wide open. Gordon was going to peddle the unmentionable secret handshakes like they were Mc Clown burgers. Gordon was stupid enough to think that most people would go for it, if he could just spin up the LDs inc marketing fast and furious enough, but Gordon came up short because most people are not MORmONS!

and look at how stupid Gordon ended up looking
- as stupid as he was! and that's pretty stupid!


so, yah, Tommy is just going to ride it out now.

with his picture on them. Maybe he is not speaking so he can earn money off his books.

Try looking at his first press conference as Profit. It was a total train wreck with Erying coming out of his chair trying to help Monson who could hardly put a sentence together...This was a serious blow to my TBM mind at the time...he looked so in over his head....seems like nothing has changed hence he is mute...

Here is the link if you haven't seen it before: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7oqEmcvr6gU

6966 views since 2008. Not exactly viral.

Does he no longer speak in conference or are you referring to other meetings/gatherings? Thanks.

He had to read his feelings about Jesus, he couldn't remember them. The menu in the cafeteria, he has that memorized.