Could it be the Jello?

I'd be real interested to see what the statistics would look like for just whites, age 50 to 60, for example, compared to the same group in other states.

And while there are a lot of frumpy, out of shape Mormons, I know quite a few that are in pretty passable shape too. I honestly don't know how they compare to a demographically similar cohort of other Americans.

I am obese and I dont give a damn.
Take me like I am or leave me be.

Obesity can be related to certain psych meds and some anti depressants. With all the psych meds being distributed in UT that may be a link.

Obesity is ALWAYS to eating too much!

If you are a Lard Arse (Technical term Lardius Maximus)
Stop blaming the med's
Stop overeating and
GET SOME EXERCISE

Obese people on planes should be made to pay for the two seats they take up...

My mom is allergic to just about every food on earth. She went to some nation-wide allergy specialist who put her on a specialized diet, with medications to support it and she lost 70 pounds in 6 months. She never had to watch portions - she just couldn't eat foods she was allergic to and could only eat certain foods once a week. On the days she was allowed to eat nuts, she would brag that she'd had more than 3000 calories that day. It was a documented medical condition. Other people have lost weight without trying after starting thyroid medication or having their systemic candida treated. My SIL lost 25 pounds without changing a thing about her exercise or eating habits, just by moving across town from her mother, who she has a very poor relationship with. Doctors have proven that you burn fewer calories as you age - no lack of self-discipline about it.

That being said, people who claim a medical condition as a cop out bug me because it takes away from the many people who really do have serious issues. However, anyone who thinks it's a simple as you make it out to be is a simpleton who knows very little about how bodies work. If you look good but sound stupid the minute you open your mouth, you aren't any better off.



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And you are an uninformed insensitive a*shat who talks a lot of gobshite.


Seriously, how nasty and shallow and uninformed can you be?!?

Not you CAGirl... that Jon person above.



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All hail pork fat! yummmmmmmmmmmmm...

Ron

44th out of 50-ish doesnt seem too bad

but the rates of obesity and diabetes is a growing problem all over the USA

http://labs.slate.com/articles/diabetes-in-america/

not counting D.C., which is also lower.

Medications have nothing to do with obesity. Some medications can cause weight gain, but nothing even close enough to CAUSE OBESITY. People that let themselves get that way, do so for one reason only: not burning more calories than they consume. Inactivity and terrible foods are the main culprits. Apathy about the issue is also a major problem. The epidemic has started to consume our children because adults aren't showing them healthy eating habits, nor are they teaching their children how to be smarter, and more conscious, consumers. Let your child watch 6 hours of television a day, instead of getting adequate exercise, and you are risking their health.

I don't think Jon is uninformed at all. He may have put down his words in a very blunt manner, but that's the gist of it.

I'm not surprised by this. Utah is great for outdoor activities. Also, Utah has practically no minorities or poor people which have higher numbers of obese people.

All the Mormons I know here in AZ are in great shape. However in MI, all the Mormons were obese. I chalk it up to them being poor with limited access to fresh food and the fact that it's freezing cold 90% of the year so no one goes out to exercise.

I must admit I am a very opened minded tolerant person but I have one big bias and prejudice and it is against overweight people.

I know it isn't right but when I see someone who is 350+ pounds I get so angry at them. Its like I know I will end up paying their hospital bills someday.

I work with people and I used to work with a guy that would literally cram his face full of food all day every single day, then say he had a "gland problem" My ass. I am 6'2" 195 pounds so I am not a little guy and I can sure eat some junk food but if I are the way that guy ate I would throw up.

I am not religious but I think gluttony is immoral.

Yeah I used to work with this chick that was 302 pounds. Every once in a while we would go out to eat lunch together. She would always eat a whole basket of chips and salsa before the meal even came, and then she would order 2 entrees. I shit you not, after almost every single time she ate something she would say, "Ooh my stomach hurt." And she never made the connection apparently. That woman could down a can of soda faster than anything I've ever seen. If I do drink soda, which is rare, I can sip on it for half a day before it's gone.

There are just some habits to contribute to health problems, and the above story is a prime example. Convert, I can understand your frustration. When I see an obese person at the grocery store, using a mobile chair to get around just because they don't feel like walking, I feel disgusted. And how dare they act like I'm getting in THEIR way.

I am really sorry to hear that you apparently have so little understanding or compassion for obese people.

While some people legitimately have issues with their metabolism or various allergies, I have found that for most obese people, their obesity is the result of an internal emotional issue, externally motivated. I know it was for me.

I was very large 200lbs @ 5'3" small framed woman for most of my adult life. Over the course of 15 years of therapy I finally resolved my issues and when I no longer had to self-medicate my depression with food, the weight naturally dropped off. Throughout the entire process I never dieted one day and I ate anything and everything I wanted. I am now about 75 pounds lighter and wear a size 4 or 6. I lost the weight over about 3 years and have kept it off about 3 years.

I can tell you that as an obese woman, I regularly faced the same kind of hostility and vitriol that you two (along with Jon) are spouting. And yes, just like with you, it came from TOTAL STRANGERS. I can assure you I was completely aware of my weight problem, what caused me to be overweight and routinely condemned myself for my weakness--Just as you two seem to think you have the right to do to other obese people.

Obese people are usually miserably unhappy with their status not only because they know how bad they feel physically but because they are made to feel bad emotionally by people who are strangers to them and have no idea what caused the problem in the first place.

And "immoral?" Are you serious? Because the person has a problem overeating? I restrict that descriptor to people who have actually behaved immorally by harming others with their behavior. Philanderers, thieves, liars, murderers, rapists, people who make personal attacks against others for no apparent reason and their ilk.

As far as those who feel they have the right to harshly judge another for their PHYSICAL APPEARANCE when they are completely ignorant of any of the circumstances that brought the object of their scorn, to that point I actually feel sorry for them. I really would hate to live my life with such anger and hatred in my heart for anyone for so insignificant a reason. Living a life full of hatred, negativity and hostility earns a person my pity.

I do not mean this in a patronizing or condescending way but I really hope for your future happiness that you can find a way to have more compassion and understanding in your heart.

FYI: Angel don't brag about how you nurse a soft drink along all morning. What you're doing is keeping your blood sugar level spiked all morning and continually kicking yourself in the pancreas by doing so. Healthwise, you'd be a lot better off if you just chugged your soft drink in a couple minutes. Or, you can be like me and make a rule for yourself that you only drink soft drinks when you are out of the country. So yes, according to your example, I am holier-than-thou.

our ability to judge.

*like*

Its a human behavior, and you just did it yourself.

Well some posters here are still Mormon at heart with their perfection complexes.

Sorry we can't all be thin as*holes.

For all of you who didn't have to go through severe harassment for your weight as a child, good for you.

I was not going to comment, but I have to. Yes, the math is simple, eat more than you burn = gain weight. However, to say that is how everyone becomes obese, is inacurrate at best and judgemental at worst.

I was 115 lbs (I am 5'6") up till I was 30 years old. Then because I planned to have children I went off the pill (up to that point I had been on the pill all my life to get a cycle - I know, too much info) - in one year after going off the pill, I gained 85lbs - YES, 85lbs.

I have to say that I was a rigid wokout freak. My friends were Gymnasts and competitive body builders. I did not do the freak diets but I worked out with them regularly. I ran daily. I still gained the weight, and was DEVASTED. My doctors did not believe I was still working out, or eating properly. It took 5 years for them to diagnose me with PCOS. I eventually got my weight under control with the proper food choices and continued exercise. But it has taken me over 10 years to correct what happened in one year, and I am still (nor will I ever be) the same as I was. But I am fine with my current body shape.

So, I do understand that the majority of people will gain weight or some weight through over eating. But that may not always be the case, and you can in fact become obese, not just overweight, for numerous other reasons. Mine condition is just one of them. By the way, PCOS causes your body to store all your energy immediately into fat, so that if I needed any extra energy I would need to eat, or I would feel sick, shaky, and dizzy. It is like a severe drop in sugar balance. You eat, still have no energy, feel sick, and you start to become addicted to the very food that kills you: sugar. It becomes a vicious cycle unless you take control of it. I did, but it is not easy. Many people are not even aware if they have a problem.

Due to physical issues, I am not able to exercise like I would like to, but I do the best I can and I have lost 35 lbs this year, so it's do-able.

Sorry. Obesity != 100% overeating. Diabetes Type II != 100% poor eating. Poor health != Lack of control/exercise.

Many antidepressants cause diabetes; steroids create weight gain; genetics/heredity predisposes some people to poor health.

Granted, poor diet, lack of exercise and poor self control are major factors in the obesity and diabetes epidemics in the US, but they don't explain all of it away.

Couple the above with peasant ancestry, as many of us have going back one or two or three generations, and most of us have the cards stacked against us, in re: bone structure, body/girth size, height, etc.

You can do only so much to change that, but eating well and trying really hard to rest and exercise in proper proportion can help keep us healthy as we can be. And we should all do that, and teach our kids how to do it, too.

But folks, some, most, of us are always going to be string beans and some bowling balls---no matter what we do. Let's not be too harsh on anyone, least of all ourselves, if we happen to be so instead of whatever standard passes for beautiful these days.

Perfect appearance != perfect health, most of all != mental health.

And with a MIL recently diagnosed w/ diabetes, glaucoma, heart problems and high blood pressure as the result of 3 meds she's been on for a decade, whose side affects were probably known by those who sold and prescribed them long before she experienced the symptoms and was diagnosed, I felt I had to put that out there.

We had this huuuuuge 400+ woman in our stake, the family was descended from Parley P. Pratt

So one day in RS she sat on a metal chair and the chair literally collapsed under her weight. It took I don't know how many people to scrape her off the floor.

What was hilarious was how she said "You all saw that the chair was defective,right?"
No one answered LOL

It wasn't the chair, it was HER WEIGHT.

I don't like it. It really is easier to gain weight and harder to lose it as you get older and I'm just barely pushing 30. I need to get off my fat ass and do more.

And children are so fat now these days too. Maybe it's a defense mechanism against all the pedaphiles running around.

It isn't rocket science, folks. I work as a civil servant on the mainland. After a fifteen minute boattrip, I spend another fifteen minutes on my bicycle. If I did my commute by car, and if my job was not in a swimming pool where I obviously swim before or after my shift, I'd get fat too. Thankfully, I live on a small pedestrianized island.

Too many Americans have no idea what enough exercise means. It means TEN-THOUSAND STEPS a day PLUS TWENTY MINUTES OF HEAVY BREATHING. That means a five-mile walk to begin with and twenty minutes of rope-skipping next. Every day. If you still get fat after that, THEN you can blame the moon.



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Sorry to repost. But I should have posted at the end of the thread and I don't think there's a way to delete.

Fallingangel and Convert...

I am really sorry to hear that you apparently have so little understanding or compassion for obese people.

While some people legitimately have issues with their metabolism or various allergies, I have found that for most obese people, their obesity is the result of an internal emotional issue, externally motivated. I know it was for me.

I was very large 200lbs @ 5'3" small framed woman for most of my adult life. Over the course of 15 years of therapy I finally resolved my issues and when I no longer had to self-medicate my depression with food, the weight naturally dropped off. Throughout the entire process I never dieted one day and I ate anything and everything I wanted. I am now about 75 pounds lighter and wear a size 4 or 6. I lost the weight over about 3 years and have kept it off about 3 years.

I can tell you that as an obese woman, I regularly faced the same kind of hostility and vitriol that you two (along with Jon) are spouting. And yes, just like with you, it came from TOTAL STRANGERS. I can assure you I was completely aware of my weight problem, what caused me to be overweight and routinely condemned myself for my weakness--Just as you two seem to think you have the right to do to other obese people.

Obese people are usually miserably unhappy with their status not only because they know how bad they feel physically but because they are made to feel bad emotionally by people who are strangers to them and have no idea what caused the problem in the first place.

And "immoral?" Are you serious? Because the person has a problem overeating? I restrict that descriptor to people who have actually behaved immorally by harming others with their behavior. Philanderers, thieves, liars, murderers, rapists, people who make personal attacks against others for no apparent reason and their ilk.

As far as those who feel they have the right to harshly judge another for their PHYSICAL APPEARANCE when they are completely ignorant of any of the circumstances that brought the object of their scorn, to that point I actually feel sorry for them. I really would hate to live my life with such anger and hatred in my heart for anyone for so insignificant a reason. Living a life full of hatred, negativity and hostility earns a person my pity.

I do not mean this in a patronizing or condescending way but I really hope for your future happiness that you can find a way to have more compassion and understanding in your heart.

FYI: Angel don't brag about how you nurse a soft drink along all morning. What you're doing is keeping your blood sugar level spiked all morning and continually kicking yourself in the pancreas by doing so. Healthwise, you'd be a lot better off if you just chugged your soft drink in a couple minutes. Or, you can be like me and make a rule for yourself that you only drink soft drinks when you are out of the country. So yes, according to your example, I am holier-than-thou.