The term Anti-Mormon was an evil word in my family growing up. It epidomized Satan's influence, danger, and death of soul. I had many preconceived ideas of anti-mormons. I was told that they were powerfully controlled by Satan's evil angels and their main tool was the internet. Also they were full of lies and incredibly dangerous to faithful Mormons. After reading the truthful history of the church that has been hidden from me all of these years the whole anti-mormon thing makes a lot more sense. I understand why people leave the church in such anger and devastation. The church has stolen years of their lives, money and time. I see why they want to spread their message of truth to others. The motivation is from a place of compassion not evil of not wanting others to go through the same pain. It is a message of warning.

Anti-Mormon, no. There are too many Mormons that I love.

Anti-the-Organization, yes.

Yeah it depends what people mean. Anti the mormon people? Of course not. I strongly disagree with what they believe in, but on a personal level many are good people. Family, friends and others.

Anti the mormon church. I guess so. After I fully discovered it was not true, I debated with myself long and hard whether or not the church was still a force of good. After many years I came to the conclusion that it is not. Although it has done some good things in some cases, overall I would say it is destructive.

Not fully black and white though as many good people for whatever reason stay in the church.

I posted that one here ten years ago, and I saw Will Bagley used it a few months ago on a local program.

Do I think he stole it? I'm doubtful; it has a slightly no-brainer quality about it and Will is a better wit than I am...

I mean, Denial C. Peterson never called me a "lying, venomous gasbag."

Here you go: Here's a lunch roster of "RFM anti's" who got together at an undisclosed location last year...

Will Bagley
Cricket
Jesus Smith
SL Cabbie
Rodolfo
A g-g-grandson of John D. Lee who gave me permission to use his name, but as we are likely to hold a get-together at his house in the future, I'll keep under wraps...

I'm not anti-Mormon. I'm just pro-truth. Unfortunately they often go together.



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But I'll yield to the lady...

Who was also a delightful dinner companion and cab customer at one time...

I couldn't remember where I first heard it long ago. It is the perfect response to being called "anti-Mormon."

Yes, that was a nice dinner evening, Cabbie. It was great meeting you. I've met some fantastic exmos from this board.

All name dropping aside, I independently came up with the term also Cabbie, after my brother said that I was anti-Mormon.

At the time I didn’t feel like I was anti-Mormon, so what was I?

I didn’t feel like I was against the church at that time, I just believed the real history, and knew what a lot of the lies and deceptions were. I wondered how not being against the church, or hostile to it made me an anti-Mormon just for believing the truth. So I told him that I wasn’t anti-Mormon, I was pro-truth.

Since that time, I’ve probably become more of what they could rightfully call an anti-Mormon. After going through a fairly innocent pro-truth stage, and seeing more and more damage that is done to families and individuals, I moved beyond just believing the truth. I am now against the church and all of its manipulations and cult like behavior.

So by now I’m probably an anti-Mormon. But there was a time when I was just pro-truth.

And unlike your brother, I'm equally certain it wasn't Satan speaking to you when you said it... ;-)

Now the one I am kind of happy with--besides Denial C. Peterson, which is, alas, getting a bit threadbare--is that twisting the old couplet "As you are, we once were" and using it to describe an ex-Mormon's message to the faithful... I mean Hinckley gave me the idea, said they weren't using it...

Alas, as a technical nevermo I never really believed long enough to get baptized, although I tell you there were times when I was with the bishop's daughter and contemplating her charms, that I did start to get filled with the spirit...

dagny Wrote:
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> I'm not anti-Mormon. I'm just pro-truth.

Yep. I've said that very thing many times. Of course the TBMs hate that statement, because they figure they've got the truth.

I think Mormons hope that members and all others will assume "anti-Mormon" means the same thing as "anti-Semitic;" an unfounded, prejudiced, unreasonable, vitrolic hatred.

Anti-Semitism is diabolical and resulted in the deaths of millions of innocent men, women and children. While the former (anti-Mormon) is overly dramatic and designed to be a conversation stopper.

kenc Wrote:
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> I think Mormons hope that members and all others
> will assume "anti-Mormon" means the same thing as
> "anti-Semitic;" an unfounded, prejudiced,
> unreasonable, vitrolic hatred.
>
> Anti-Semitism is diabolical and resulted in the
> deaths of millions of innocent men, women and
> children. While the former (anti-Mormon) is
> overly dramatic and designed to be a conversation
> stopper.

I think that anti-Semitism is the same thing actually. Sure there is hatred of the Jews, and Hitler was evil, but any criticism of Israel or the Jewish lobbyist agenda in Washington is met with howls of anti-Semitism.

Anti-Semitism at one time may have meant hatred of Jews, but they have evolved it to mean any disagreement with them. It is used so often as just a conversation stopper, or fear inducer for anyone who disagrees. Any member of Congress, or otherwise powerful person who disagrees with them will be called and anti-Semite. And that ruins careers and reputations, so people usually just keep quite on the subject. This is exactly what was intended.

Mormons took a page from the Jews handbook after seeing how well it works to quiet dissension and disagreement.

Why, yes. Yes, I do.

The real question is: why do you need to know that?

In the true sense yes, because I hate damaging lies that atrophy lives. It is harder for me to separate the members from the main malignancy as some do. It gets to be a grey area and you have to take that part on a member by member basis. Many have gone from being victims to perpetrators, and at some point bear some responsibility for the damage.

On the other hand, it seems the anti word is too negative and stops your message in its tracks if you use it, so it needs to be disguised or dressed up.

If I have to do that, I would say, I am not anti, I just want to help stop people from having their lives wrecked.

The people are true - its the Church that isn't

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Yes.

In my hillbilly Mormon vernacular: What I ain't fer I'm again.

If you use the definition from wikipedia, "Anti-Mormonism is discrimination, persecution, hostility or prejudice directed at members of the Latter Day Saint movement, particularly The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints (LDS Church)."--then no I am not. If being anti-mormon is pro-truth and being critical of mormon doctrine, history, and lies, then I am anti-mormon.

Some people think so, and when I repeat the things I learned during my first 30 or 40 years of mormonism, I get accused of being a bigot, hater, and a liar, too.

The days of McConkie, et al, have mysteriously disappeared. I guess some prophets, seers, and revelators are "more equal" that others (Orwell phrase).

I would rather wikipedia define Anti-Mormonism as persecution, hostility or prejudice directed at the Latter Day Saint Movement rather than directed at members. I see more anger toward the church itself (founder) than the members within the church.



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That is a good question.

I am pro-truth and anti-manipulation.

TSCC lied to and manipulated everyone and continues to do so...

So yes, I guess I am...

I am sorry Lost Mystic...My head must be in the gutter..you don't want to be anti-manipulation...you know..down there...

I would think..pro masterba...manipulation..would be a good thing..

Lol.

Wait! I need to rephrase!

I'm anti-psychological manipulation.

I'm pro physiological manipulation! LoL

Nope...I'm with Greyfort...

"Anti: a person who is opposed to a particular practice, party, policy, action, etc."

It's not personal. I am opposed to mormonism, that makes me an anti-mormon. I'm also an anti-homophobe, anti-misogynist, anti-evangelical, etc.

NormaRae Wrote:
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> "Anti: a person who is opposed to a particular
> practice, party, policy, action, etc."
>
> It's not personal. I am opposed to mormonism, that
> makes me an anti-mormon. I'm also an
> anti-homophobe, anti-misogynist, anti-evangelical,
> etc.


I agree with you NormaRae....I am not anti or pro anything that has to hate or superiority...just be...be you and I will be me and thats that...

Yes I do.

And I'm disgusted with myself that I can't get to a "live and let live" stage of recovery. I'm not a hater. But everything about TSCC, including TBM's, just make my skin crawl.

Maybe someday I can mentally move into the general category of ex-Mormon instead of anti-Mormon.

;o)

Anti-Mormon is the church's word. It implies that there is this great organized beast fighting them, when really there is no such thing. Just people who learned the truth about the church.

Great statement of the reality of the situation, FCD! It's their word, and has nothing to do with me. I just muddle along [with the LDS church well behind me], and they can say whatever they jolly well want.

I don't lose any sleep over what they are or aren't doing, although they continue to provide me with a lot of amusement!

I'm sure a TBM would classify me as anti mormon.

When I tell never mo friends about why I left I tell them about temple ritual weirdness ripped off from the masons, JS's collection of wives, etc.

I certainly am against many parts of mormonism current and historical, so ya, I guess I'm anti in thought and in speech to some but I don't go balls to the wall about it on facebook or anything.

According to Church vocabulary, the Anti-Nephi-Lehis weren't really against anything, in fact they were some of the "good guys", the pro-Nephites from among the Lamanites. So anti- really means the opposite of what it ordinarily means. If a TBM calls us anti-Mormon, does that mean they still think we support them?



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I consider myself anti-mormon-ism .

and being bombarded with the stupid words that come pouring out of Mormon mouths and minds;

and interacting with people who are too dumb to figure out that none of that @#$%& ever happened and they're being stolen from, but who think they're super smart and I'm under the influence of Satan;

and even just knowing an organization that does nothing but lie and steal and add more dumb people to the world continues to exist.

Yeah, I'm against all of that plus the fear of coffee. So call me an anti-Mormon; the shoe fits, and I'll wear it. It doesn't require that I trash Mormonism and Mormons every chance I get, or that I try to change their minds. It only requires that I disapprove--which I do, wholly.