All of the following in one gospel doctrine class:
"If I didn't have the scriptures I would be robbing banks every day"
"I used to believe in evolution then I found the truth"
"I interview all of my grown [moved out, 30+ years in age] sons every month and none of them have ever seen pornography"
"No other Christian church's believe in an afterlife"
"We know the truth, that black's are 'descendants of Cain'"
"The world is devolving into more and more wickedness, has never been worse, etc."
Arrgghhh!!!
I bite my tongue because I love my family and want to be supportive, but every time I feel like I can make it work, I am presented with an onslaught of ignorance that I would not believe existed if I wasn't there myself.
I for one think the world is getting better with each passing generation ... science has provided great strides in feeding more people, less parents are burying their children due to childhood diseases, women and minority groups have gained much ground as far as civil rights go (there is probably still room for improvement here), the more educated we as a society become the less we want to kill each other. To hear such filth spouted off in church week after week is deeply offensive to me on every level ...
Sorry for the disjointed post, just needed to rant in a safe place, have developed a twitch from holding this in and needed some sort of outlet ...
Mormons are the only ones who believe in an afterlife? LOL and they really believe that? The belief in an afterlife is pretty universal and may go back as far as our homonid ancestors who buried their dead with possessions.
Belief in an afterlife IS pretty universal. Obviously no one has studied other religions in the Mormon church. And that guy interviews his adult sons each month to check on their viewing of Pornography??? Now that is just pathetic. And on top of that it is not normal.
Mormons have absolutely NO corner on the market of eternal families. They only have the market on eternal sex. Of course, we all know that's what keeps the men tied to the stupid cult is that hope in the back of their minds that the sex part is really true.
Most churches teach that we'll be reunited with our family--the family of God, to which we all belong. And that we'll live in paradise with God and those we were with on this Earth. The whole planet thing and all that doesn't make sense anyway. How are you going to be with your family if your kids are all off doing their own planet thing with their own polygamous family? The Christian version of "families forever" is much more lovely to anticipate when you think about it. But that's the point. The geezer brigade doesn't want you to think about it. They want you to be afraid to start thinking rationally because they'd be sunk if people did.
Anon for now Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Arrgghhh!!! > > I bite my tongue...
And the thing is, EVERYONE bites their tongue. I was never in any church class where someone corrected someone else's baloney. Because that would be dissension. So the baloney spreads as if it was true -- because no one corrected it.
You are absolutely right. I really wish I had the courage to stand up and say something ... right now I have limited myself to one 'correction' per class as I hate confrontation.
My last correction was stating that woman are not 'property' and that should not be treated as some sort of 'divine' principle ... just kind of got brushed off on that one. (For the record I am male -- a feminist male, and I was responding to some comments made by females about the beautiful caste structures involving concubines in the bible)
There was some discussion about obedience going on at church, and, of course, the trend was heavily weighted towards obedience to the Lord's annointed. There was this one older lady, a convert from Germany, who said that obedience was righteous and I ask if it were righteous to obey evil leaders. Her response was that if the leaders were wrong the responsibility was their's, not the follower's, for obeying the evil orders. I made some comment about it not going down like that in Nuremburg and the room got uncomfortably silent.
Bal Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > "If I didn't have the scriptures I would be > robbing banks every day" > > So the other 5 Billion people that don't have the > scriptures are > bank robbers? > > I see the the problem.....not enough banks I face that problem every week - My bank robber guild has decided that a credit union counts as half a bank; cash advance place gets no points.
He could carry his scriptures in a backpack and carry right on, robbing all the banks he wanted! And he could read his scriptures when he stopped for coffee breaks!
(Sorry - I'm feeling more sarcastic than usual today.)
My mom taught kindergarten for a number of years in California. When she was investigating Mormonism, her teacher friends ALL told her that Mormons were the worst parents because they were always doing things at church and letting their kids run wild, the older kids raising the younger kids. They thought Mormons were the worst-behaved children in their classes.
It never ceases to amaze me the difference between how Mormons think they are seen by outsiders and how outsiders really see them.
Ironically, I think the Mormon Church should embrace the Theory of Evolution - that way they could say that Godhood is naturally the next step in Human Evolution.
I wish I'd written down all the crazy stuff I heard at church over the years. It would have been a fun book to read.
Things like:
JS is a prophet. I don't believe this I KNOW it. I know it because he told me. He came to me in a dream and told me that I was going to be rewarded for my righteousness. My reward is that I know he was a prophet. HE told me in the flesh and bone. (testimony given by a member in 1990)