Seems pretty out there doesn't it? It amazes me that I believed this stuff as it probably does most of you.

If God was really going to bring the world a new gospel, a young boy is who he would pick? Seems like there would be more effective people he could've chosen. I imagine Joseph Smith wasn't the only person looking for the "truth."

I'm pretty sure God could and would have chosen a much better "prophet", had he actually needed it. Possibly someone who isn't so prone toward marrying other men's wives...

Contrary to popular opinion, not every male that has ever lived is a sex crazed lunatic like Joseph Smith. Sure we like sex, but most of us tend to avoid married women and 14 year olds.

... hanging about in a wood with a treasure-seeking would-be paedophile lying conman? Is this the best plan that God can come up with?

What's more likely - God went out of his way to flash a semi-naked divine body to his blue-eyed boy Joseph, or the nasty piece of work Joseph is telling porkie-pies?

Um ...

Applying logic doesn't work with Mormons. To them a 14 year old boy makes perfect sense, and actually supports their case. In their minds there is nothing they can't explain, or ignore.

Haha, the joke's on Joe. There is no God!

"Joseph told me on his return, that he intended to keep the promise which he had made to his father-in-law; but, said he, it will be hard for me, for they will all oppose, as they want me to look in the stone for them to dig money: and in fact it was as he predicted. They urged him, day after day, to resume his old practice of looking in the stone. -- He seemed much perplexed as to the course he should pursue. In this dilemma, he made me his confident and told me what daily transpired in the family of Smiths. One day he came, and greeted me with a joyful countenance. -- Upon asking the cause of his unusual happiness, he replied in the following language: "As I was passing, yesterday, across the woods, after a heavy shower of rain, I found, in a hollow, some beautiful white sand, that had been washed up by the water. I took off my frock, and tied up several quarts of it, and then went home. On my entering the house, I found the family at the table eating dinner. They were all anxious to know the contents of my frock. At that moment, I happened to think of what I had heard about a history found in Canada, called the golden Bible; so I very gravely told them it was the golden Bible. To my surprise, they were credulous enough to believe what I said. Accordingly I told them that I had received a commandment to let no one see it, for, says I, no man can see it with the naked eye and live. However, I offered to take out the book and show it to them, but they refuse to see it, and left the room." Now, said Jo, "I have got the damned fools fixed, and will carry out the fun." Notwithstanding, he told me he had no such book, and believed there never was any such book, yet, he told me that he actually went to Willard Chase, to get him to make a chest, in which he might deposit his golden Bible. But, as Chase would not do it, he made a box himself, of clap-boards, and put it into a pillow case, and allowed people only to lift it, and feel of it through the case."


From the testimony Peter Ingersoll, 1833

The question I have is.......WHAT gold plates?

Someone "says" that there were gold plates translated, but since those plates have never REALLY been seen since, all that was translated was a made up narrative..

Yes... it's dum, dum, dum, dum, dum.