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Posted by: steve benson ( )
Date: April 10, 2012 07:19PM

Presently, MoMitt is not polling particularly well in various surveys, arguably dimming his hopes for ultimate success in the race for the White House. Why?: His Mormonism (with its embarrassing history of bizarre doctrines, cultish beliefs and strange practices) is a liability in the eyes of many voters, combined with MoMitt's lack of charisma/personal warmth, his general inarticulatness, his disconnectedness from average people, his reputation for inconsistency, etc.

If LDS, Inc.'s internal tracking begins to indicate to the PR-preoccupied Blue Suits in SLC that MoMitt may end up going down to decided defeat this fall, the last thing the Morg would want is to be saddled with a guy sporting a Mormon identity who makes their folk-magic religion look even more goofy, more unbelievable, more non-credible and more publicly out of the American mainstream than it already is.

If that happens, the Mormon pull-back from Mitt could begin before Election Day.

Heh. That would be sweet, now, wouldn't it?

Mitt who? Never heard of him.



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Posted by: forbiddencokedrinker ( )
Date: April 10, 2012 07:31PM

I don't think his Mormonism will matter in the general election, if he can make it about Obama. By that, I mean, the price of gas, the high unemployment numbers, and other continuing economic problems, rather these things are Obama's fault or not. Remember, most Conservatives see Obama as a radical socialist out to destroy their way of life. The slogan I have already seen on several conservative sites is "hold your noes and vote for Romney."

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Posted by: steve benson ( )
Date: April 10, 2012 07:42PM

It could cause the Mormon Church to be the one that ends up holding its nose and keeping its distance for the sake of its precious, ever-morphable image. .



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Posted by: honestone ( )
Date: April 11, 2012 12:08AM

Hey, they can say hold your nose and vote Romney all they want....it won't sway me. No vote for Romney from this household.

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Posted by: Devoted Exmo ( )
Date: April 10, 2012 07:32PM

I doubt they'll distance themselves from him. Even if he doesn't win the election, he was the republican nominee and that's quite an accomplishment. Additionally, it reenforces their beloved persicution complex.

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Posted by: helamonster ( )
Date: April 10, 2012 07:44PM

First, it will keep mormonism from getting TOO close of a scrutinization.

Second, it will let leaders futher the "persecution" myth.

In fact, I'd be willing to go so far as to say that if it looks like Mitt could win, we might see some church-hired modern-day Danites try to do something about it...

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Posted by: Uncle Dale ( )
Date: April 10, 2012 07:45PM

Devoted Exmo Wrote:
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> Additionally, it reenforces their
> beloved persicution complex.

Precisely so.

We can always tell which is the One True Church, because
Satan stirs up so much resentment against the Chosen Saints.

Likewise, we can tell which candidate God wants elected,
by watching how much effort the Devil expends on his defeat.

If Romney loses, the talk in EQ on Sunday mornings, will be
that the Great and Abominable Church has temporarily bruised
the One Mighty and Strong. But, if Satan can bruise his heel,
the Saints can bruise the head of that Muslim Anti-Christ.

And -- oh yeah -- the two prophets who shall lie dead for
three days in the streets of Jerusalem will be harbingers
of Elder Romney and the forces of the Children of Light.

"Praise to the man who communes with the man who communes
with Jehovah...."

UD

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Posted by: canadianfriend ( )
Date: April 10, 2012 08:27PM

These are all interesting predictions. It's hard to say what the fallout will be for the morg after November 6. Obama will win, but crazy things could happen (look at the George W. years). A Romney presidency would be a disaster for the world. As far as the cojcolds is concerned, people seem to be conceding that Mitt is a moral person, but definitely an oddball. He won't help the Mormon cause (as they hoped he would), but I for one am not sure where this is all going.

Steve Benson could be right, but when I take a good look into my peepstone I see the Mormons distancing themselves from Mitt, and Mitt distancing himself from the Mormons. They're not good for each other and in the end they will probably both lose and blame each other. In the meantime pop up the popcorn, sit back and enjoy the show.

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Posted by: deco ( )
Date: April 10, 2012 08:41PM

It may be more likely that Mitt would distance himself from LDS Inc when the kitchen gets hot. He does not have a good track record of standing by his core beliefs. In fact many of his stands on issues should be called 'new and everlasting covenants'

It could be easily expalined to the membership as the public cannot understand these things (wink wink)

The one thing he cannot do is divorce himself from mormon doctrine and history. He was in too high a leadership position to state that he had never heard of many of these controversial things discussed here everyday. I somehow think he actually thinks this will all go away and he will not have to answer for it by simply ignoring, or claiming persecution by 'bashing'

What ever happens it is going to be real interesting for people here.

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Posted by: deco ( )
Date: April 10, 2012 10:39PM

It would be interesting to see the leadership say something critical about mitt.

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Posted by: Southern ExMo ( )
Date: April 10, 2012 11:33PM

Any of you who think Mormonism won't matter in this election do not live here in the Southern Bible Belt.


I can't speak for any other part of the country, but when Mitt gets the nomination, you can write the southern Bible Belt off to Obama.


Folks in these parts will just refuse to go to the polls, rather than vote for a Mormon.

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Posted by: honestone ( )
Date: April 11, 2012 12:11AM

I agree with you...no holding our noses and voting in a cult leader. And no voting in a person who believes parents should be kept from their own child's wedding since marrying in the temple far outweighs any joy the parents could have seeing the wedding of their son or daughter.

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Posted by: deco ( )
Date: April 11, 2012 12:18AM

Mitt may not be the nominee.

If LDS leadership pays attention they may realize Mitt could bring down the entire LDS corporation.

I can't think of what the excuse might be, but some BS excuse will come up if the LDS church leadership decides to pull him from the race.

Might get interesting if the LDS leadership wants him to give it up because of the extremely bad press LDS Inc is going to get, and a chance that Mitt may not want to quit.


Would be the ultimate in irony if the first time in his life Mitt grew a spine would be to publicly defy LDS leadership.

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Posted by: SL Cabbie ( )
Date: April 11, 2012 01:41AM

He's losing the women's vote badly... Not that the brethren will fault him for that one, of course...

http://www.csmonitor.com/USA/Politics/2012/0403/Gender-gap-daunting-for-GOP-Why-women-s-vote-is-key

Based on what I'm hearing as well about the evangelicals in the Bible Belt and the Deep South (see Southern Exmo Above), I don't see Romney having a chance...

So, do Mormons "eat their own"? I don't pretend to know the cultural dynamics that well... But I'd guess they'd make a persecution issue out of it, naturally.

I am, nevertheless, continuing my "Gospel of Ex-Mormonism Political Mission" out on the Internet... I am not going to succumb to complacency.

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Posted by: Heresy ( )
Date: April 11, 2012 02:08AM

http://www.salon.com/2012/04/09/the_coming_war_on_mormon_jokes/singleton/

There isn't going to be a lot more talk about Mormonism. It sounds snarky coming from outsiders. Even fellow Republicans barely got away with it. The media would prefer to not talk about racism or religion, and they are about to pull back or get insulted.

We'd love to think this public examination of Mormonism is going to continue, but I don't think we are objective.

It was fun while it lasted, but I don't think the church has much more to worry about.

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Posted by: steve benson ( )
Date: April 11, 2012 02:32AM


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Posted by: enoughenoch19 ( )
Date: April 11, 2012 02:49AM

They won't distance themselves from Mitty. He has more money than god(s).

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Posted by: Stumbling ( )
Date: April 11, 2012 05:13AM

I think that if the Church tried hard to distance itself from Mitt Romney then the happiest person on the planet would be Mitt Romney.

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Posted by: Lucky ( )
Date: April 11, 2012 05:39AM

Hate to burst your bubble... BUT.... IF LDS INC/ the MORmON church really had any sense at all then they would have pulled back support and distanced themselves from an earlier president, president Hinckley that is !

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4YEMX0VooD4

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Posted by: EssexExMo ( )
Date: April 11, 2012 06:39AM

Mittens for president? I don't know that we emphasize that. I haven't heard it discussed for a long time.

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Posted by: Pixie Dust ( )
Date: April 11, 2012 09:07AM

and his religion, it is of little wonder that he has not succeeded in wooing the southern voters. As a businessman, he knew to not spend time and resources there. As a concern, will he write off the south if elected president?

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Posted by: freetimenow ( )
Date: April 11, 2012 10:11AM

I don't see the religious issues being too big of a concern to Republicans, since they are mostly religious anyway and have their own wierd beliefs.

Where I see the damage to Romney from his religious beliefs is the racial issue mainly. All it takes is for some interviewer to dwell on the fact that the BoM still says dark skin was the result of sin. Race plays in this country. It will particularly alienate Democrats and most blacks.

The other issue is gay rights, though I think most Americans will get spun up over that issue like they would over racism.

I don't think TSCC will alienate from him; rather, they'll just lie about their racism and do a publicity campaign to counter the truth.

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