She said it legitimizes the power of God that the church has. That people must recognize it as the true church because why would they otherwise be upset and that she would never be offended if some other group religious or otherwise did something like this because she knows the LDSinc has the true authority.

I feel it is presumptive and insulting of mormons to think the reason why people are upset is because they are recognizeing its authority. I was trying to explain to her that her attitude makes it insulting and that non-mos don't think that at all.

Maybe mormons could find a symbolic way to give dead Muslims a ham sandwich!

Infuriating!!!

They assume: "There can be only one reason to object to dead baptisms. and that reason is that people think it's true and valid."

Dumb as dirt thinking.

Also compassionate as a rock thinking.

where they went to one of your relative's graves and (to put it delicately) had 20 people go "number 1" and "number 2" on the grave and headstone, so that both were entirely covered, because they believe the person was going to hell, would she find that offensive???

If so, then it must mean that she is recognizing that group as having "true authority" to determine a person's afterlife.

Being offended by a Cult's action has nothing to do with believing it has true authority. Some things are just rude and offensive to (most) of society in general, and dead dunking is one of them.

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Mormon thinking:
if you are for the church, the church is true
if you are against the church, the church is true
if you are indifferent to the church, the church is true
if you like ham and cheese sandwiches, the church is true
if you own three green monkeys, the church is true
if you sit in a corner and drool, the church is true
Get it?

TSCC just does not teach its flock to be empathetic.

nevermos to get a look at THEIR records (ordinance records that is) but they've had no issue going into Christian churches and routing the baptismal records for their own nefarious use?

truths of JS and BY and she feels that it proves the church is true because if it wasn't it wouldn't have survived it all.

This same line of reasoning was used recently on a Facebook discussion regarding persecuting gay people. The article a Facebook friend shared discussed the fact that a mormon photographer who owned her own business and turned down the request of a potential customer by stating, "I won't photograph gay weddings". Of course in TBM land, discrimination and lack of tact is celebrated as righteousness. Anyway, the friend's husband put in his two cents by stating, "I wouldn't be offended if a photographer told me they wouldn't photograph my mormon wedding because I'm secure in my beliefs and know the church is true."
This from the people most famous for the persecution complex.

Which is what many TBM weddings are with outfits, flowers, bridesmaids, etc that were never part of the actual ceremony!

See, it's apparently okay in Mormondom to refuse services but it is persecution to refuse to patronize a vendor. :)

Their "true church" unfortunately is based on a fraudulent book and associated fraudulent claims.

Mormons have NO special powers.
NONE.

No special powers? What about when they're wearing their magic underwear?

Just ask Superman, Batman or Wonder Woman (okay, Wonder Woman wore a swimsuit). :)

The Jews are upset and offended about dead-dunking because the church is true and deep down they know it, right? Therefore, if you get upset and offended about the Westboro Baptist church protesting at soldiers funerals, it's because deep down you know the Westboro Baptist church is true.

Ugh, I can't stand them touting around the word 'authority.' That is the word that sums up the ridiculous, falsely pompous attitude that makes the rest of the world run away screaming from them. "Authority." "We have the authority." "We have authority over you."

Yin that was what is truely wrong with TSCC! "Authority"

Mormons don't like it when people say they are not christians, yet dead-dunking shows they don't respect the baptisms of other christian churches, because the important part for lds isn't being christian, it's being mormon.

And if it bugs her then why? After all, she's dead and the act is powerless.

Muslims could use the same reasoning over the decision to publish cartoons of their prophet.

And Scientologists must have the higher ground, being banned in the odd European country as a cult.

The fact that Nazis targeted Jewish people must mean something. they didn't incinerate Mormons. Oh, wait, that's right, the Mormon church (as an institution) was supportive of the third Reich. Even today they do not openly support one of the few Mormons who disobeyed the Church directive to cooperate with the Nazis (NOTHING can compensate for disobeying the priesthood):
http://mormondirection.com/2008/11/16/helmuth-hubener-was-he-disobedient-or-is-he-a-hero/#more-95

They think What's the big deal? My guess is manipulation, control, lack of respect for others is simply what they're used to and they can't understand why anyone would have a problem with it.

I thought the rule was to submit names of family members only. But I knew of people who would submit names from the newspaper obituary section or go to cemeteries and copy down names from grave markers.

Just another example (albeit hideous) of the arrogance of the mormon church. Just as bad as the Lamanite programs where Navajo children were "adopted" by TBM families. Such contempt and disregard of the Navajo culture.

Mormons believe their way is God's way and anything different should be trashed. How destructive can you be?

"if people are talking about it, we must be right!"

Well that is one way of looking at it, but it doesn't decrease the absurdity of the entire exercise. Nor does it decrease the arrogance inherent in negating the religious culture those dead people subscribed to in life.

"Gay Marriages for the Dead" and start marrying dead mormon prophets and apostles to each other. Then their marriages are going to be recorded online where there will be a record of their Gay Marriage.

Turn about is fair play...Right? :)

The Mormons have already done that! After Joe Smith's demise at the Shootout at Carthage Jail, apparently quite a few males had themselves sealed to him in the Nauvoo & Salt Lake temples.

My question is: Now, would those guys be considered Joe's bend-over bitches in Spirit Prison...?

They are so knee-jerk defensive about their "sacred not secret" temple rituals and the seriously stupid underwear, even wearing it UNDER bras. Why should they care? It doesn't interfere with them wearing it, and if they believe in it, so what?

It's the same thing - The dead dunking is laughable, until I remember that my stupid-as-@#$%& 2nd cousin saw to it (had to be him) my Lutheran grandmother was proxy baptized. I don't believe any baptisms actually do anything - there's nothing magical about any of it, in any religion. But I hate that her name and legacy is now on Mormon baptism records. It's viscerally revolting - it's terribly disrespectful of her religious choice, which she took extremely seriously. The Lutheran guilt did a real number on her, and she died so eaten up with guilt that she was afraid she wouldn't go to heaven - what could she have possibly done to deserve that? It's crap, but she believed it.

But I digress - it was a slap to her memory, who clearly did not honor her decisions about her own life NOT to be a member. She thought LDS was ridiculous.

The Church of "Why Would Anyone Be Offended" has just performed a proxy sodomization of your grandfather. But don't be upset because it only counts if he accepts the sodomization.

I honestly don't get why people care about the baptisms. I mean if some medicine man in the jungle stabbed pins into an effigy of me to cause me harm would it bother me? No. I'd laugh at him. I'd laugh if anyone thought they could perform any type of religious ritual on me. But to say that because it bothers them, they must recognize TSCC as the true church is the funniest thing of all.

Because they feel disrespected. And they've BEEN disrespected.

This is a group of people that goes apeshit over the slightest perceived offense wherever they go.

Deaddunking is all about temples and temple recommends
Temple recomends are all about money
So deaddunking is all about money

They will defend this to the death
Ironic is't it!