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Posted by: JoD3:360 ( )
Date: February 09, 2012 08:52AM

According to Bruce R. McConkie,The Book of Abraham contains information on Priesthood and God that is not found in any other scripture- here are the real translations:
http://www.bookofabraham.com/boamathie/BOA_6.html
http://www.bookofabraham.com/boamathie/BOA_7.html

...to the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints --the Book of Abraham could never be laid aside without forfeiting some of that Church's most sacred and distinctive doctrines.

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And what about plurality of gods? Is that real, or made up? Let's look at the Doctrine and Covenants which is a book of revelations given to Joseph Smith-
http://scriptures.lds.org/en/dc/122

can you see where DC 122 begins?
http://www.utlm.org/images/changingtherevelations/changingtherevelations_p177.gif

When the D&C was reissued in 1844, Section 121 was not included. Section 121 was originally a letter written by Joseph Smith, Hyrum Smith, Lyman Wight, Caleb Baldwin, and Alexander McCrae while inmprisoned in Liberty jail. Published originally in The Times and Seasons in Nauvoo 1840. The 1844 DC did not include any portion of the letter. Since JS oversaw the publication of the Doctrine and Covenants, it is apparent that he did not consider the material in the latter as revelation.

In 1876 the new edition of the Doctrine and Covenants included it, but it was chopped, added to, rewritten with entirely new concepts and material including Plurality of Gods. Entire paragraphs were cut, while portions of sentences were moved around. This became 121, 122, and 123 as part of the new theology being taught in Salt Lake City.

Here is a fantastic layout of the changes in photographic form:
http://www.utlm.org/onlinebooks/changingtherevelations.htm

Scroll down past the Book of Commandment changes, to the section called Other Changes. Pictures clearly show what was cut, including the authors names, and it shows what was inserted. In the end, section 121,122, and 123, no matter how important, is a complete fabrication.

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And what about the Sermon on the Mount given to the Lamanites but changed in the JST?:

3 Nephi 13:25-27:
25. ...Therefore I say unto you, take no thought for your life, what ye shall eat, or what ye shall drink; nor yet for your body, what ye shall put on. Is not the life more than meat, and the body than raiment?
26. Behold the fowls of the air, for they sow not, neither do they reap nor gather into barns; yet your heavenly Father feedeth them. Are ye not much better than they?
27. Which of you by taking thought can add one cubit unto his stature? “

Matthew 6:25-27: (from the KJV of the Bible – not the JST)
25. Therefore I say unto you, Take no thought for your life, what ye shall eat, or what ye shall drink; nor yet for your body, what ye shall put on. Is not the life more than meat, and the body than raiment?
26. Behold the fowls of the air: for they sow not, neither do they reap, nor gather into barns; yet your heavenly Father feedeth them. Are ye not much better than they?
27. Which of you by taking thought can add one cubit unto his stature?”


The passages are identical which is understandable as Jesus may have said the same thing to both groups of people in the Old and the New World.

The Joseph Smith Translation of those same passages in the LDS Bible for Matthew 6:25-27
25. And, again, I say unto you, go ye into the world, and care not for the world: for the world will hate you, and will persecute you, and will turn you out of their synagogues.
26. Nevertheless, ye shall go forth from house to house, teaching the people; and I will go before you.
27. And your heavenly Father will provide for you whatsoever things ye need for food, what ye shall eat; and for raiment, what ye shall wear or put on.”


Joseph Smith corrected the Bible. In doing so he also corrected the Book of Mormon. The Book of Mormon is the most correct book and was translated a mere decade before the JST. The BOM was not corrupted over time and did not need correcting. How is it that the BOM doesn’t match the JST?

Another Example:

3 Nephi 14:6
6 Give not that which is holy unto the dogs, neither cast ye your pearls before swine, lest they trample them under their feet, and turn again and rend you.

Matthew 7:6
6 Give not that which is holy unto the dogs, neither cast ye your pearls before swine, lest they trample them under their feet, and turn again and rend you.

JST Matthew 7:10-11
10 And the mysteries of the kingdom ye shall keep within yourselves; for it is not meet to give that which is holy unto the dogs; neither cast ye your pearls unto swine, lest they trample them under their feet.
11 For the world cannot receive that which ye, yourselves, are not able to bear; wherefore ye shall not give your pearls unto them, lest they turn again and rend you.

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The Book of Commandments was the first book of revelations published in 1833. It was later reissued as the Doctrine and Covenants in 1835. At the time of the publication of the 1833 Book of Commandments, Jesus Christ said that it was correct and approved by Him.

Book of Commandments Chapter 1:7
>1:7 [S]earch these commandments, for they are true and faithful, and the prophecies and promises which are in them, shall all be fulfilled. What I the Lord have spoken, I have spoken, and I excuse not myself, and though the heavens and the earth pass away, my word shall not pass away, but shall all be fulfilled, whether by mine own voice, or by the voice of my servants, it is the same: For behold, and lo, the Lord is God, and the Spirit beareth record, and the record is true, and the truth abideth forever and ever: Amen.


Here's a very good resource to see the changes
http://www.2think.org/hundredsheep/boc/boc_main.shtml

Changes to Joseph Smiths Authority:
http://www.2think.org/hundredsheep/boc/boc4.shtml

Changes to Oliver Cowderys (Rod of Aaron) revelation:
http://www.2think.org/hundredsheep/boc/boc7.shtml

Changes to the Parchment of John the Revelator:
http://www.2think.org/hundredsheep/boc/boc6.shtml

Change- note the difference between 24:7 and 20:6
http://www.2think.org/hundredsheep/boc/boc24.shtml

Changes to the revelation to Emma:
http://www.2think.org/hundredsheep/boc/boc26.shtml

Change to the revelation to consecrate the property of the Gentiles:
http://www.2think.org/hundredsheep/boc/boc44.shtml

Changes to Priesthood revelation:
http://www.2think.org/hundredsheep/boc/boc28.shtml

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Posted by: SusieQ#1 ( )
Date: February 09, 2012 05:30PM

It's religious subjective truth aka God Myths.
It's spiritual truth, or a spiritual witness.
That's how it all works! :-)

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Posted by: top ( )
Date: February 09, 2012 10:23PM


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Posted by: JoD3:360 ( )
Date: February 13, 2012 08:35PM


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Posted by: toppity ( )
Date: September 06, 2012 07:31PM


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Posted by: exldswestaussie ( )
Date: February 10, 2012 03:40AM

I spoke to missionarys who denied the facts bared their testimony and even said if the church wasnt true they still would not leave it as it gave them a good decent life....

The spirit is everything and facts is totally overlooked.
That is called blind faith and foolish but it can bring peace to the ignorant..

The bible says dont trust in feelings but only apon the word of god and we dont even have spirits and are nothing without christ, not god like just nothing..

new age books are telling us the Feelings are everything for happiness, wealth and abundance... Its what works and its not a matter of moral concious whats right or wrong but spirituality verses relegion..

If its all about feeling the mormonism is a culture but doesnt mean its the truth. Universal truth and that god responds to prayers by heart felt and could be fair to say the least but its just not the biblical god..

Maybe the universal god is the loving god and the bible god
the sexless spirit god who has no body and is a floating mushroom in space and time save it be christ is god incarnated who said there is not god above or below me anywhere on earth or the universes...

Gods ways are above our ways. Facts could be lies by conspiring early members that fell away or other churches that recorded different date lines of the first vision story to fabricate the truth but could the devil cause so many good standing people of the day to lie against the prophet to bring down the church, tho the dates recorded in joe smiths diary and even his mothers diary is 1824 first vision only one personage appeared and 1838 two personages appeared in 1824 a changed story.....

missionarys dont care about the facts the spirit tells them its still true even tho the dates dont match...

exwestaussie

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Posted by: snowowl ( )
Date: September 06, 2012 09:18PM

There are the verses in the original first edition of the Book of Mormon stating that God the Father and Jesus are the same person, but have been changed in later editions to say that Jesus is the "son of" God. The most correct Book on earth or one of the most corrected?

BOOK OF MORMON, 1830 edition
"And the angel spake unto me, saying: These last records, which thou hast seen among the Gentiles, shall establish the truth of the first, which are of the twelve Apostles of the Lamb, and shall make known the plain and precious things which have been taken away from them; and shall make known to all kindreds, tongues, and people, that the Lamb of God is the Eternal Father and the Savior of the world; and that all men must come unto him, or they cannot be saved."
1 Nephi 13:40, Book of Mormon

BOOK OF MORMON, 1982 edition
"And the angel spake unto me, saying: These last records, which thou hast seen among the Gentiles, shall establish the truth of the first, which are of the twelve Apostles of the Lamb, and shall make known the plain and precious things which have been taken away from them; and shall make known to all kindreds, tongues, and people, that the Lamb of God is the SON OF the Eternal Father and the Savior of the world; and that all men must come unto him, or they cannot be saved."
1 Nephi 13:40, Book of Mormon

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BOOK OF MORMON, 1830 edition
"And he said unto me: Behold, the virgin whom thou seest, is the mother of God, after the manner of the flesh."
1 Nephi 11:18, Book of Mormon

BOOK OF MORMON, 1982 edition
"And he said unto me: Behold, the virgin whom thou seest is the mother of the SON OF God, after the manner of the flesh."
1 Nephi 11:18, Book of Mormon

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BOOK OF MORMON, 1830 edition
"And the angel said unto me: Behold the Lamb of God, yea, even the Eternal Father! Knowest thou the meaning of the tree which thy father saw?"
1 Nephi 11:21, Book of Mormon

BOOK OF MORMON, 1982 edition
"And the angel said unto me: Behold the Lamb of God, yea, even the SON OF the Eternal Father! Knowest thou the meaning of the tree which thy father saw?"
1 Nephi 11:21, Book of Mormon

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BOOK OF MORMON, 1830 edition
"And it came to pass that the angel spake unto me again, saying: Look! And I beheld the Lamb of God, that he was taken by the people; yea, the Everlasting God was judged of the world; and I saw and bear record."
1 Nephi 11:32, Book of Mormon

BOOK OF MORMON, 1982 edition
"And it came to pass that the angel spake unto me again, saying: Look! And I looked and beheld the Lamb of God, that he was taken by the people; yea, the SON OF the Everlasting God was judged of the world; and I saw and bear record."
1 Nephi 11:32, Book of Mormon

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Posted by: Bishop what's-his-face ( )
Date: July 31, 2013 10:09PM


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Posted by: scarecrowfromoz ( )
Date: July 31, 2013 10:38PM

The printer was running short of the letter s-o-n-o-f so he just left them out multiple times. Mormons blame all the corrections from the original on the printer.

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Posted by: justbnme ( )
Date: August 01, 2013 12:01AM

Exceptional work. Worth topping. I'll book mark this one for sure!!

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