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Posted by: Lost Mystic ( )
Date: January 18, 2012 10:32PM

LOL!

Yard work is mentioned. Why did they leave everything else out?

Give the members an entire list to avoid confusion.


http://mormonstories.org/other/TRI%20Questions%20120911.pdf

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Posted by: lily ( )
Date: January 18, 2012 10:35PM

So that pretty much leaves bathing, sex, swimming and working out.

Pretty soon they will tell you to avoid "excess bathing" and suggest timing your showers as to not avoid wearing your g's.

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Posted by: AKA Alma ( )
Date: January 19, 2012 11:57AM

They already do discourage "excessive bathing". I can't count how many times as a YSA I was instructed in priesthood to limit the amount of time I was in the bathroom bathing. Appearantly the spirit will disolve in water and if you take too long you'll start masturbating.

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Posted by: freeman ( )
Date: January 19, 2012 04:44PM

Yes, because water = Satan and more than 3 minutes alone = opportunity to masturbate.

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Posted by: ipo ( )
Date: January 18, 2012 11:38PM


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Posted by: frankie ( )
Date: January 18, 2012 11:40PM

sickening, so if you don't wear the underwear your not followong jesus. Thank god I never married or went on a mission so I never have worn the holy underwear even though i'm 36 and considered too old to marry by now. thats right tbm men, stay the hell away from me. I'm a independent educated woman with a great job, I'm evil!!!!!!

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Posted by: Lethbridge Reprobate ( )
Date: January 18, 2012 11:44PM

Lets see....my answer would be "I wear JC Penney gonch and ride a John Deere to do my yard work"....and WTF has yard work got to do with anything???? Bizarre....

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Posted by: Rowell back ( )
Date: January 19, 2012 12:52AM

The irony in all of this is noted in the last paragraph of the letter.

"Members who have made covenants in the
temple should be guided by the Holy Spirit to
answer for themselves personal questions about
wearing the garment. These sacred covenants
are between the member and the Lord, and the
proper wearing of the garment is an outward
expression of an inner commitment to follow the
Savior Jesus Christ."

So let me see if I understand this correctly....Out of one side of their mouth they tell the members to wear the garment when doing yard work and then out of the other side of their mouth, they tell members to answer for themselves personal questions about wearing garments.

So which is it? What's next? Telling members they must wear the garment while having sex?

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Posted by: Lucky ( )
Date: January 19, 2012 01:00AM

Rowell back Wrote:
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> The irony in all of this is noted in the last
> paragraph of the letter.
>
> "Members who have made covenants in the
> temple should be guided by the Holy Spirit to
> answer for themselves personal questions about
> wearing the garment. These sacred covenants
> are between the member and the Lord, and the
> proper wearing of the garment is an outward
> expression of an inner commitment to follow the
> Savior Jesus Christ."

AND YET that big statue of Jesus in the visitors center on temple Square portrays a Jesus bereft of Magic MORmON underwear!


> So let me see if I understand this
> correctly....Out of one side of their mouth they
> tell the members to wear the garment when doing
> yard work and then out of the other side of their
> mouth, they tell members to answer for themselves
> personal questions about wearing garments.
>
> So which is it? What's next? Telling members
> they must wear the garment while having sex?

Dont worry, that, and far worse has already been done by MORmON leadership.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MYsi-r1amY0

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Posted by: badseed ( )
Date: January 19, 2012 11:05AM

> "Members who have made covenants in the
> temple should be guided by the Holy Spirit to
> answer for themselves personal questions about
> wearing the garment. These sacred covenants
> are between the member and the Lord, and the
> proper wearing of the garment is an outward
> expression of an inner commitment to follow the
> Savior Jesus Christ."


"It's up to you if you want to wear your garments or not. True if you choose to not wear them you are a unworthy covenant breaker who has lost the Spirit.....but again it's up to you."

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Posted by: seeking peace ( )
Date: January 19, 2012 10:27AM

Good God, how I hate reading things like this!I did my master's thesis on women wearing the veil. I will never look at letters like this in the same light. It is patriarchal control. If you can control what people wear you can control how they think--they are very interconnected. The date of this letter shows that TSCC is tightening its grip once again.

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Posted by: kookoo4kokaubeam ( )
Date: January 19, 2012 10:30AM

I wore tighty whities just to see if they could tell I was lying my ass off.

They didn't.

So there. Take THAT you lying POS excuse for a church.

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Posted by: deconverted2010 ( )
Date: January 19, 2012 10:51AM

How ridiculous that they single out wearing garments to work on your yard. What about wearing them while doing weight loss commercial or dancing with the stars moves, shouldn't the costumes be made to accommodate the person's underwear and not the other way around.

I think this is to differentiate the faithful and unfaithful as one drives along the streets of Utah during the summer. I feel for you priesthood holders in Utah.

And a big thank you to the brave person who copied the letter.

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Posted by: upsidedown ( )
Date: January 19, 2012 12:13PM

I think that all the exmo's in Utah and all heavily populated areas should do the yardwork in the front yard in spandex. Please send your wives out to clip the hedge and mow the lawn in something sexy......please.

Put it up on youtube with a copy of the letter and tell them to go suck a lemon.

Hottest mom on a riding lawnmower this summer wins in my book.

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Posted by: SusieQ#1 ( )
Date: January 19, 2012 12:16PM

I don't see anything different. This has been the standard.
They just didn't get so specific and mention an activity like "yard work."

My guess is that the members are finding more and more opportunities to take the garment off, especially while doing yard work. I guess they figure if the military can wear them while at war, the local members can wear them doing yard work! It's likely that there is a big trend to take the garment off for yard work and that is bothering the leaders. That's not on their acceptable list of times to remove it.

Like I said in an earlier post:

Generally, we were admonished to use our own common sense and not wear the garment when it was inappropriate - or could be mocked or ridiculed, or seen outside the outer clothing.....like while wearing a swim suit, or athletic gear of different types, like tennis uniforms, or while going to non LDS doctors, or trying on clothing in dept. stores, and a dozen other times. That was the general counsel I recall receiving in the 60's and on.

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Posted by: JoD3:360 ( )
Date: January 19, 2012 12:31PM

...outward expression of an inner commitment to follow the Savior Jesus Christ."

Temple and Priesthood are not spelled J.e.s.u.s C.h.r.i.s.t.

Never turn down a good proofreading...

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Posted by: GNPE ( )
Date: January 19, 2012 01:02PM

childish.

apparently (re Jensen) the 'POWERS' are so afraid of apostacy that their backwards thinking leads them to tighten the screws.

this reveals little more than their inner belief that their best audience is made up of Sheeple who enjoy the Simon Says mentality/intimidation/Control.

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Posted by: SpongeBob SquareGarments ( )
Date: January 19, 2012 02:42PM

Maybe it's just my PC, but when I tried to copy the text of the letter, I got mostly jibberish. If you can copy it, please send me the text. SquareGarments@gmail.com

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Posted by: student ( )
Date: January 19, 2012 02:49PM

...they didn't protect me from the temptation of becoming an exmo.

Thank Dog.

Student.

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Posted by: GNPE ( )
Date: January 19, 2012 03:09PM

Question:

were NOM types using Yard Work as a canard / Red Herring to get out of wearing them?


D'oh! ChurchCo: What does that tell you?



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 01/19/2012 03:13PM by guynoirprivateeye.

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Posted by: Rowell back ( )
Date: January 19, 2012 07:02PM

I really thought that the church would slowly mainstream itself and at some point have members wear the garments in the temple and do so as a means of symbolic ritual.

But the more I think about the control the church has on it's members through these polyester clown panties, the more I realize that will never happen. Now I think it's truly possible they will require members to wear them during sex and only take them off to bathe.

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Posted by: ronas ( )
Date: January 19, 2012 07:04PM

I still think the church will slowly mainstream. I just think slow means reeeaaaaaally slow. Give it a few hundred years and it will be very different and much more metaphorical.

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Posted by: foggy ( )
Date: January 19, 2012 07:06PM

Growing up I remember my neighbor would always mow the lawn in shorts and his garment top.

Wonder what letters they'd have to send about that?

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Posted by: Quoth the Raven "Nevermo" ( )
Date: January 19, 2012 07:11PM

Let's all say C U L T. Real people are able to decide for themselves what to wear when they do yard work.

What a sick POS corporation!

Someone must have gotten their nickers in a knot over this and decided to put it in writing to make sure that all morbots suffer.

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Posted by: GNPE ( )
Date: January 19, 2012 07:12PM

I didn't read that Yard Work is now a TRIQ...

the letter was more like a 'reminder' as to how to interpret/apply what they'd previously said

just sayin'

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Posted by: theOtter ( )
Date: February 18, 2012 09:08PM

I guess what I wonder is why either the original poster or any of the respondents thus far care. Perhaps it’s just me, but if I weren’t keeping my temple covenants, I doubt I’d even pay attention to what the First Presidency (or anyone else) might have to say about them.

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Posted by: Lost Mystic ( )
Date: February 18, 2012 09:37PM

See comment below for intended reply.

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Posted by: Lost Mystic ( )
Date: February 18, 2012 09:36PM

Being the OP, and finding this new change completely ridiculous along with all other first presidency orders, my question to you is...

Why do you care so much of what I think to comment on a dead thread?

Why are you browsing here?

I'm not even in your first presidency clan and you took the time to dig up something I said.

Perhaps you are the one who cares too much?

Do you feel better about yourself or your testimony now?

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Posted by: dk ( )
Date: February 18, 2012 09:41PM

If you've sweated after doing yard work, do you want to change your clothes and underwear? Are they cool in the summertime?

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Posted by: Flecher ( )
Date: February 18, 2012 09:57PM

Dear President {fill in a Scandanavian surname},
Thank you for the reminder to not not wear the Temple Garment!
I do remember the covanents I made with the now revoked death penalties and oaths. I try to forget the things the Lord would have me forget and not not wearing my garment top in the Summer heat is not one of them! I'm exhorted to received typed revelation, signature stamped, from modern authorities on this Earth!

faithfully,
L. Dan Medson

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Posted by: vulturetamer ( )
Date: February 19, 2012 01:12AM

Someone needs to be ballsy enough to wear nothing *but* the garments while doing yard work. Now that I would really like to see. Maybe that's what they mean........ ;)

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Posted by: Mia ( )
Date: February 19, 2012 03:54AM

I can't help but feel this is all my fault!

I went years and years without G's while doing yard work
Somebody must have complained I wasn't miserable enough.

Oh well. I Quit! I'll wear what I want.

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Posted by: Lost Mystic ( )
Date: February 19, 2012 08:46AM

It's crazy!

I posted this a month ago!

Some troll names "theOtter" dug it back up

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