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Posted by: lulu ( )
Date: December 19, 2011 07:24PM

Elder Jeffrey R. Holland - Dec. 17, 2011, Laie, HI

http://www.ldschurchnews.com/articles/61847/BYU-Hawaii-Ground-broken-for-campus-expansion-project.html

So how are they building the SLC mega mall & apts?

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Posted by: helamonster ( )
Date: December 19, 2011 07:27PM

I recall hearing church members referring to tithing as "fire insurance".

What kind of message does that send to members about how "optional" tithing really is?

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Posted by: Mia ( )
Date: December 19, 2011 07:41PM

At least they aren't doing it on my dime.

I don't support their schools for more reasons than one.
The biggest reason though, they didn't think I was worth educating in 1975. You know, being female, no important family members, not from Utah, and sin of all sins, My talent was painting and sculpture.

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Posted by: badseed ( )
Date: December 19, 2011 07:45PM

What Holland is likely saying is that "if you're looking for funds for things that don't help LDS inc out, yer outta luck. Malls and condos that eventually will monatary pay returns back to LDS inc are an other thing entirely."

=)

Actually I have no idea what he means. I've given up trying

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Posted by: Jesus Smith ( )
Date: December 19, 2011 07:51PM

He's playing semantics and he knows it. Shows his dishonesty.

"Church" = only the religious wing of the corporation. He is excluding the Corporation of the COJCOLDS and of the presiding bisho-pricks.

Holland just showed his hand, once again, that he is a corporate man through and through. What a weenie.

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Posted by: Mia ( )
Date: December 19, 2011 08:04PM

I'm amazed he admitted that even though you are a tithe payer, you most likely won't get anything, including an education. In other words, we don't care if you're poor as dirt, and paid into this project. You're not getting any return on that money. Too bad most tithe payers either won't see that article, or will gloss over that detail.

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Posted by: Misfit ( )
Date: December 19, 2011 09:38PM

Technically, Holland is telling the truth. There is no money IN THE CHURCH, except what the members give. Any extra money beyond what the church needs to operate as a church is siphoned off and invested into the pet projects and businesses owned by the Corporation of the President and its subsidiaries, like City Creek Mall. Its a very clever statement designed to obfuscate the reality of what happens to tithing funds.

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Posted by: mcarp ( )
Date: December 20, 2011 02:09PM

The church has no money except what members give us, but we are building the mall without using any tithing money.

They just want it both ways. Like always.

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Posted by: Anonymous User ( )
Date: December 20, 2011 05:14PM

Offer? Offer?????

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Posted by: steve benson ( )
Date: December 20, 2011 05:19PM


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