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Posted by: Truthseeker ( )
Date: November 14, 2010 07:40PM

Just received the Conference Edition of the Mormon magazine. (my wife insists). Could not believe the contradictions in this address by "Elder" Claudio Costa.(General Conference October 2010. He gave a thinly veiled "keep in line" speech, disguised as 14 reasons to always follow the Prophet...

“First: The prophet is the only man who speaks for the Lord in everything”

==>Nonsense. If that's the case, why have many words of past Prophets had to be "clairifed" or corrected by others? That would imply God makes mistakes.

Second fundamental: “The living prophet is more vital to us than the standard works”

==>Nonsense. Once again trying to dispose of the Bible and replace it with the opinions of men.

Third fundamental: “The living prophet is more important to us than a dead prophet”

==>OK, then why is the whole Church formed on the words of a "prophet" who died 200 years ago?


Fourth fundamental: “The prophet will never lead the Church astray” (“Fourteen Fundamentals,” 27).

==>Nonsense. Every prophet has made serious mistakes. They are human beings. Look at the "Salamander Letters" mess, Mountain Meadows, Zion's Bank, and on and on...

Fifth fundamental: “The prophet is not required to have any particular earthly training or credentials to speak on any subject or act on any matter at any time”

==>Nonsense. Can the prophet counsel on nuclear physics? ;-) Don't think so.

“Sixth: The prophet does not have to say ‘Thus saith the Lord’ to give us scripture"

==>Guess that is why the Church has now prohibited recording or transcribing any comments or speeches by a GA?

“Seventh: The prophet tells us what we need to know, not always what we want to know”

==> In other words, don't think, don't question, just obey
And then President Benson quoted from 1 Nephi 16:1, 3:


Eighth fundamental: “The prophet is not limited by men’s reasoning.

==>Since anything he says is infallibe scripture (see rule 7), guess that's OK...huh?

“Ninth: The prophet can receive revelation on any matter—temporal or spiritual"

==> In other words, the Church can dictate any aspect of a member's life they choose to.

“Tenth: The prophet may be involved in civic matters"

==> This makes sense. The profit has a lot of lucrative business Boards to oversee, and shopping malls to build.

“Eleventh: The two groups who have the greatest difficulty in following the prophet are the proud who are learned and the proud who are rich"

==>In other words, those who think and act for themselves

“Twelfth: The prophet will not necessarily be popular with the world or the worldly"

==>In other words, those who think and act for themselves

“Thirteenth: The prophet and his counselors make up the First Presidency—the highest quorum in the Church. . . .

==>Here we go again with abosolute, unquestioned authority

“Fourteenth: The prophet and the presidency—the living prophet and the first presidency—follow them and be blessed; reject them and suffer”

==>If persuasion and kindness don't work...use threats!!

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Posted by: Leah ( )
Date: November 15, 2010 12:34AM

Stop paying and obeying them and let your wife decide if you or the cult are more important to her.

Eventually, that is always the bottom line.

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Posted by: anagrammy ( )
Date: November 15, 2010 12:51AM

and how the prophet who can hold forth on any topic and needs no education and/or training couldn't tell shit from shinola on something specifically important to the COJCOLDS.

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