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Posted by: Southbound ( )
Date: October 23, 2011 01:32PM

Any one have experinece with Type 2 diabetes natural treatment? I heard of cinnamon and such. I am open to ideas. Thanks.

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Posted by: FreeRose ( )
Date: October 23, 2011 01:47PM

He started walking and working out at the gym. NO fast food. He ate foods like steel cut oats for breakfast, whole grain breads, grilled chicken and lots of leafy salads. I think in 5-6 months he reversed it and lost weight too. Concentrate on whole foods and good protein and limit sweets, like an apple and cheese for a snack. Also, I've read diets high in fat cause sugar to stay in the blood longer.

Good luck to you.

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Posted by: catnip ( )
Date: October 25, 2011 03:15AM

We had to cut back on eating out (which we both love) but the new rule around our house is lots of fruits and veggies, whole grains, and lots of walking, biking, swimming, kicking a soccer ball around the back yard, etc.

He has lost a significant amount of weight and can even cheat from time to time on the diet (he no longer pays attention to the "official" one they gave him at the med center.) He takes no medications and tests his glucose levels twice a day. Judging from the numbers, you would never know he had ever been diagnosed with diabetes.

As long as the numbers keep showing up so perfectly, I don't see any reason to change what we are doing.

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Posted by: reuben ( )
Date: February 23, 2015 08:10AM

ALthough neither my wife and I are Type 2, our daughter is Type 1, which mad us get smart on the contents of meals. We were blown away about the calorie/carb/fat content in a single meal when you eat out.

We now only share an entree when we go out. Even doing that, we still get almost an entire day's calories from that one meal

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Posted by: CL2 ( )
Date: October 23, 2011 01:49PM

and I've tried it, but I'm not much of a blood sugar checker. I know I should do it more often.

Jbug who used to post here was the one who told me about cinnamon. She also told me walking 20 minutes a day helped A LOT.

I'm still on metformin, but I am on half the dose I used to be on since I lost about 40 pounds. I need to lose about 30 more so I can get off it altogether.

Oh, the dietitian at the hospital also said that cinnamon helps. I buy it at Wal-Mart and take 2 capsules a day when I take it.

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Posted by: anon 4 this ( )
Date: October 23, 2011 01:52PM

I buy cinnamon in bulk and load my own capsules. Much, much more economical in the long run.

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Posted by: anon for this please ( )
Date: October 23, 2011 01:50PM

Yes: dietary changes and exercise. When I was diagnosed in March 2011, I immediately changed those two things and dropped 40 pounds in five months, got A1C number from 8.5 to 6 in three months.

A crash course in the dynamics of protein and carbs (especially those that are stacked with fiber) was extremely helpful; much helpful information is available online. Websites such as diabetesdaily can help you track information.

Was supposed to be taking metformin, but held off on that to motivate me to make the changes--to keep my numbers where they should be every day.

At the six-month checkup, the diabetes clinician deemed me to be in control with diet and exercise and released me to the "care" of my primary health "care" providers.

Stevia is my sweetener of choice.

Best wishes.

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Posted by: michaelm (not logged in) ( )
Date: October 23, 2011 01:53PM

This article is interesting:

http://indiancountrynews.net/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=3350&Itemid=118

"Grass-fed bison meat, which is rich in vitamins and low in calories, has been shown to help lower diabetes rates, said Ervin Carlson, president of the Intertribal Bison Cooperative, a South Dakota-based organization that helps start and develop bison herds under tribal management. Some of the tribes have gone straight back to buffalo meat, and it has cleaned up their diabetes,” Carlson said."

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Posted by: Mormonista(not logged in) ( )
Date: October 23, 2011 01:56PM

The best natural treatment is a dedication to a whole foods diet.

Next best is to start cutting bad carbs until your blood sugar reaches the desired level.

Start by cutting all white bread and refined sugar. make sure you eat small meals 6 -8 times a day.

My BS was at over 300. I gave up soda it dropped to 245ish. I gave up white bread it dropped to under 200. I started eating 6-8 time a day and gave up more refined sugar products and now my BS is 100ish and still going down.

I don't know about other supplements that would help.

Good luck Diebetes SUCKS!

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Posted by: BadGirl ( )
Date: October 25, 2011 07:52PM

100 is about as low as it should go.

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Posted by: IMNotAMormon ( )
Date: February 23, 2015 09:27AM

Actually, a normal range is LESS than 100, between 100 and 125 is prediabetes. If you get down into the 30's you really start having problems.

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Posted by: BadGirl ( )
Date: February 23, 2015 03:03PM

And the new top end for fasting blood glucose is 120.
2 hours after a meal it should be below 140.

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Posted by: voweaver ( )
Date: October 23, 2011 02:13PM

First, keep this in your mind at all times: You are DIABETIC. You will ALWAYS be DIABETIC.

You can control the disease with diet and exercise. You can reach the point where you have normal blood sugars and do not take any medication. But you are STILL DIABETIC.

If you are injured, if you are sick, if you have surgery, your blood sugars are not going to respond the same way as a "normal" person. You will be more prone to infection, and it will take longer for you to heal.

Diabetes is never "cured." Got that? NEVER.

With Type 2 Diabetes, losing weight, exercising regularly, and choosing your foods wisely (study the Glycemic Index!) will go a long way in enabling you to control this disease. There is no magic cure with cinnamon or any other supplement or "natural" treatment. Diet and exercise are always going to be the backbone of any management program.

Once your pancreas is worn out to the point where you need insulin, OR if you are discussing Type 1 Diabetes, you are talking MAJOR complications and control is even more necessary.

Diabetes is a nasty disease. Always take it seriously.


~VOW

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Posted by: SL Cabbie ( )
Date: October 24, 2011 04:59PM

I have my sister's permission to endorse this one. She's an MD who also teaches at a University...

Beware the "MagicThink." That's how Mormonism got started in the first place...

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Posted by: unbeliever42 ( )
Date: October 24, 2011 04:53PM

If it is...
- A legume (bean, pea, peanut)
- A grain (wheat, corn, rice) or made of a grain (bread, cake, tortilla, pasta)
- A processed food product
- A "low-fat" food product
- A "low-carb" food product
- A "diet" food product
- Anything with an ingredient that ends in "ose" (sucrose, glucose, fructose) or that contains sugar, agave nectar, honey, or maple syrup
- Anything from the center aisles of the grocery store...

YOU SHOULD NOT EAT IT. Throw it away (unless it's a cleaning or stationery product, in which case use it for its appropriate purpose).

If it is...
- Meat (especially grass-fed)
- Poultry (especially free-range)
- Fish (especially wild-caught)
- An egg (especially cage-free)
- A non-starchy and/or green vegetable (especially organic)
- An avocado
- Butter (especially from grass-fed cows)
- Lard
- Ghee
- Coconut oil
- Coconut milk
- Olive oil (but not for cooking)
- A berry (up to a handful)

YOU CAN AND SHOULD EAT IT. In fact, it should be the backbone of your diet.

If it is....
- A dairy product (milk, yogurt, cream, sour cream, half & half)
- A nut (peanuts are not nuts)
- A seed
- A fruit other than a berry
- A starchy or sugary vegetable (carrot, beet, winter squash)
- A tuber (potato, sweet potato, yam)
- A nightshade (tomato, bell pepper)
- Coffee

YOU CAN EAT IT IN MODERATION, UNLESS:
- You are trying to lose weight (for dairy, nuts, fruits, starchy vegetables, and tubers)
- You are lactose intolerant (for dairy)
- You are significantly inactive/sedentary
- You are insulin resistant (for dairy, nuts, fruits, starchy vegetables, tubers, and coffee)

Eating this way I lost over 120 pounds in less than two years, and my blood sugar numbers went from an A1c of 8.7 to an A1c of 5.1, 200+ fasting to 95 fasting. I no longer have diabetes according to my doctor. And I've never felt better in my life.

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Posted by: spaghetti oh ( )
Date: October 25, 2011 01:49AM


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Posted by: Richard the Bad ( )
Date: October 25, 2011 02:27PM

Hi Unbeliever42, you might want to take another look at legumes on the glycemic index. I think you are missing something in your diet that you don't need to avoid. Unless, of course, you don't care for them.

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Posted by: I reversed my diabetes ( )
Date: February 23, 2015 03:23AM

Myself Vikas Singh Thakur
Age 39 year, India Weight 74 Kg height 173 CM

I tell you my story

I diagnosed my diabetes very late on 15th Jan 2015 when i feel very tired
not even position to walk 100 meter. I went to doctor with my blood report
as follows
Bg fasting 200 after meal 265
HbA1c 10.4% Doctor tell me to take Insulin I refused then he given 3 tablet
daily.
Then I read your article & i challenge to fight against diabetes I am also
national player in Table Tennis during school
I left alcohol I also tested Vitamin D3 which was 12 only, TG 229 &
Cholestrol 224
Then I started strictly following your article but more vigorous
1 Hour Brisk Walking every day in hard sunlight after meal, 1 hour
intensive in GYM along with my 3 tablet. then just after 10 days again I
measured my HbA1c it come down to 8.7% I also took Vitamin D3 Sachet weekly
60000 IU along with 10 Mg cholestrol tablet with 1000 IU vitamun D, also I
take daily Vitamin c & Vitamin B tablet. I was surprised with result
reducing 1.4% in just 10 days.
Then my internal calculation to further decrease my HbA1c to 5.3% in next
20 days. I continuous my working finally after 30 days i.e on 15th Feb I
again Tested as follows
HbA1c 5.1% Bg 96 fasting & 103 after meal TG 83 & Cholestrol 113
Then my doctor reduce my tablet from 3 daily to 1 & he said Diabetes is not
like malaria/ typhoid which can cure you have to take tablet regularly.
Kindly advise wheather I continue my tablet or not

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Posted by: notamormon ( )
Date: February 23, 2015 09:40AM

Perfect.

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Posted by: notamormon ( )
Date: February 23, 2015 09:47AM

Diabetes Type II: Living a Long, Healthy Life Through Blood Sugar Normalization Hardcover – November, 1990
by Richard K., M.D. Bernstein (Author)

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Posted by: Southbound ( )
Date: October 24, 2011 09:13PM

Thank you all very much. I appreciate the input.

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Posted by: Heresy ( )
Date: October 24, 2011 09:17PM

make a realistic difference in my experience.

Lose weight, do daily aerobic exercise, left weights to build muscle.

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Posted by: sophia ( )
Date: October 25, 2011 01:28AM

The first, by Dr. Robert Lustig, a pediatric weight specialist and professor at UCSF medical school, explains how sugar is toxic and causes metabolic syndrome (diabetes, heart disease, hyperlipidemia, high blood pressure, etc.) It is here:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dBnniua6-oM

The second is a lecture at University of South Florida, in which the doctor reviews the medical literature about weight and high carbohydrate diets.

http://www.naturalnews.tv/v.asp?v=8975DA1B71BA460CBC05EB2CE7CAEC4D

Bottom line: follow unbeliever42's advice. (Though I would be a little more liberal on eating some of the last category, including dairy (WHOLE milk), nuts, seeds and nightshades.)

For some good, healthy recipes that would fit well into unbeliever 42's advice, google "paleo" or "primal" diets. Such diets eliminate foods that became common in the human diet about 10,000 years ago, with the rise of agriculture. Paleo diets emphasize lean meats, nuts, seeds, fruits and vegetables and eliminate grain, potatoes and beans (including all dried beans and soy), and dairy.

Get rid of all foods that are high in sugar or starches that rapidly convert to sugar.

If you are a type 1 diabetic, diet will not cure you because your pancreas doesn't produce insulin. But if you are type 2, diet will help immensely. You are likely "insulin resistent,"--your pancreas makes insulin but your cells don't let it in to do its job. You can increase your insulin sensitivity with proper diet and reduce the strain on your pancreas by eating foods that don't spike your blood sugar, thus triggering an insulin response.

Good luck. With some creative attention to your diet you can eat amazingly wonderful food, not feel at all deprived or hungry, and change your life. Don't think of it as a "diet," but rather as a new way of eating for a healthy life.

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Posted by: sophia ( )
Date: October 25, 2011 01:30AM

http://www.naturalnews.tv/v.asp?v=8975DA1B71BA460CBC05EB2CE7CAEC4D

Also, I certainly don't endorse all the videos on this channel, and I think some of them are really kookie. But I think this particular doctor has really done his homework and is correct.

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Posted by: Inverso ( )
Date: October 25, 2011 02:23AM

My diabetes is completely controlled by diet and my HbA1c is in the normal range (about 5.2).

I was on metformin when first diagnosed, but was able to stop within a year. I think it was because I listened to my nutritionist and learned to limit my carb intake to under 70 grams per meal. Usually I divide up my allowed carbs--40 for breakfast, maybe 20 for mid-morning snack, another 40 for lunch and 20 for an afternoon snack. As a result of this change in eating patterns I lost 70 pounds and have kept most of it off. That was enough to leave me asymptomatic for the time being, but as mentioned above, this is not a disease that is ever "cured" and I know that at some point my resistance to insulin will build up again to the point that I'll need medication. I'm glad that I've bought myself a few years without drugs.

(I will add that I do eat huge amounts of cinnamon on my morning oatmeal and sometimes take chromium supplements too, but I believe that it's the weight loss and controlled carb intake that has done the real work).



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 10/25/2011 02:25AM by Inverso.

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Posted by: Susan I/S ( )
Date: October 25, 2011 02:27AM

It is not just about what you eat. It is what you eat together and when. Fiber is your friend :). Do as much research as possible and see what works for you. If possible, run it past a professional.

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Posted by: cludgie ( )
Date: October 25, 2011 01:12PM

Mostly she controls it with sensible eating. She has dropped back down to her high school weight by exercising and eating correctly. She eats a diet full of the right stuff. Personally, I think that diabetes is partially controlled by eating a diet rich in variations (lots of colorful and different fruit and veg), which is downright un-American, I know. She has recently switched to veganism. We'll see how that goes. So far, so good. I am now one by extension, and I have to say that everything she has cooked (she's become the household chef since switching) has been great and has saved me the work in the kitchen that I would normally be doing. I still have milk with my cereal and parmigiano reggiano on my pasta--ain't no getting around that.

But you have to take into account how different each case is. When you've seen one case of diabetes, you've only seen one case of diabetes. It is wrong to patently say that medication does not matter, that it can all be controlled by things like diet and cinnamon. And it probably takes a metric tonne of cinnamon to do the trick, not the teaspoon that DW uses in her porridge.

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Posted by: imalive ( )
Date: October 25, 2011 03:18PM

I am prediabetic. I check my sugar level twice a day and it's always below 125. Cinnamon makes a difference for me and I work out at least three times a week. I pay attention to what I eat and I've been safe for over two years now.

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Posted by:  ( )
Date: October 25, 2011 05:06PM

- Low carb eating is your friend. Diabetes is a disease of carb intolerance. Doctors saying otherwise are committing malpractice (though not in the legal sense). Find one who understands this.

- Lift weights intensely 3 times per week. No pink dumbbells for you!

- Get a physical hobby that you really enjoy for nights you don't lift weights. Salsa dancing. Brazilian Jiu-jitsu. Hockey. As long as it's intense enough to really burn calories and something you look forward to doing because you won't do something for years if you don't like it. BTW, golf won't do much for you.

Sure cinnamon. Just don't imagine that it's any replacement for insulin or other drugs your MD prescribes.

Sure exercise. Just don't imagine that you're burning tons of calories with a walk after dinner.

Keep your bodyfat at levels appropriate for your sex. Portion control and quality of food are the keys to that. If you're a man, reduce your belly to under 35" and see if your blood sugar doesn't stabilize like magic.

You CAN put your diabetes into remission. Alternative medicine won't do that for you. Like Dr. Dean said, if someone were to pitch an alternative theory of flight, you'd be awful careful before getting on their plane.

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Posted by: They don't want me back ( )
Date: October 25, 2011 06:39PM

my grandmother said it worked to lower her blood sugar.

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Posted by: eastbourne ( )
Date: February 23, 2015 05:45AM

1. I am not a physician, but have worked in medical research and have participated in national studies which have led to the FDA approval drugs for the management of diabetes.
2. Always, always follow the instructions that your fully licensed medical (not chiropractor) health provider gives you.
3. There are 2 types of diabetes, Types 1 and 2.
4. Type 1 diabetes cannot be controlled via diet.
5. The vast majority of Type 2 diabetes cannot be controlled by diet, or via the use of supplements.
6. If you believe that you can control your diabetes via natural means, then TEST your blood sugar at least 3 TIMES per day, EVERY DAY, EACH WEEK OF THE YEAR to see if it's working. Consult with your physician regarding the blood sugar levels he believes you should have. Go to the pharmacy counter and buy a blood glucose kit, and at least 90 test strips.
7. If you are not achieving adequate sugar control, you need to be prescribed one or more FDA approved diabetes management drugs.
8. Be prepared to go blind or loose a limb you you namby-pamby around with either type of diabetes.

Metaphor: Tom Brady is the QB of the team called High Blood Sugaar, and he loves throwing TD passes against weak defenses. Checking your blood sugar 3x (or more per day) is JUST THE START of a good defense.

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Posted by: ragnar ( )
Date: February 23, 2015 05:51AM

"Consult with your physician regarding the blood sugar levels he believes you should have."

>or she<

Lots of women physicians out there...

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Posted by: eastbourne ( )
Date: February 23, 2015 09:14AM

Right on!

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Posted by: Stray Mutt ( )
Date: February 23, 2015 07:12AM

My bad eating habits and sedentary lifestyle got me into Type 2 diabetes, so eating well and getting off my butt got me out of it. There are no quick fixes.

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Posted by: matt ( )
Date: February 23, 2015 08:47AM

No sugar, walking up to 12 miles a day has helped me. My Metformin dose is down.

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Posted by: Heresy ( )
Date: February 23, 2015 10:36AM

R lipoic acid helps my numbers a bit. None of the other supplements makes much difference, especially compared to metformin. Metformin is very well tested, cheap, and safe.

I'm down 55 pounds and off sugar, but it is a progressive disease, and I still need drugs.

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Posted by: moose ( )
Date: February 23, 2015 02:53PM

Type II diabetic here.

I recently started drinking coffee, unbeknownst to my DW. My point, though, is that my last A1C was 5.7.

For the first time since my diagnosis!

Good diet and exercise carry more weight than coffee consumption, but in my case, THAT made the difference!

Jus' sayin'.

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