Well, on my mission (I actually served in SLC) whenever we came to the door of a person who tried to preach to us "anti" stuff, my companions would always say, "well I see you have your mind made up" and then leave, marking on their tracting records "anti."
No missionaries I knew wanted to bother tangling with someone who was "anti." It's like cryptonite to these guys. Their scared of the stuff and think a person is trying to de-convert them if they try to share their "information" with them.
I say buy, or download, Mormonism-Shadow or Reality, have about 30 minutes of good quotes highlighted, and make it requisite for them if they are to come in your house to preach to you, that you have equal amount of time to share with them what YOU learned about the church. If they don't agree then tell them its a deal breaker. I almost guarantee they will give up on you rather than endure hearing scary "anti" stuff.
That is obviously something they teach missionaries to say when confronted by "anti Mormons." Shortly after we left, we got visits from the missionaries at least once a month. I was usually not home when they came by, so my husband always dealt with them. On one occasion, the sister missionaries came by and they asked him if they could come in to have a discussion. He said, "Sure, but I'm more likely to change your mind, than you are to change mine." They then said, "Well, it sounds like you have your mind made up," and left. We have not seen the missionaries since, so maybe it worked.
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Those who want to educate mormons need to invite them in and share information. "Come in. Let's talk."
Whoever wants to get rid of them needs to give that clear message by saying it, writing it, getting the police to help, hosing, whatever it takes. "You are not welcome here. Leave now and don't come back."
I don't favor passive/aggressive or using manipulative or dishonest tactics to either educate or get rid of mormons.
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Cheryl Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > I don't favor passive/aggressive or using > manipulative or dishonest tactics to either > educate or get rid of mormons.
Some people think it's their job to help mormons learn. If so, fine, go for it.
Others think it's their job to live their lives and let mormons do the same.
I think it's healthier to be honest and upfront in life, including with mormons. Playing games is not being authentic. It's unhealthy for everyone all the way around.
> I don't favor passive/aggressive or using > manipulative or dishonest tactics to either > educate or get rid of mormons.
> I think it's healthier to be honest and upfront in life, >including with mormons. Playing games is not being authentic. >It's unhealthy for everyone all the way around.
I agree, but I don't see how telling missionaries/Mormons, that you'll agree they can come in and 'teach' you what they believe about THEIR religion, as long as YOU can do the SAME, is being "passive/aggressive," "manipulative," "dishonest," or "playing games."
I agree what I said in my original post is kind of a snarky remark, but its pretty up front, honest AND EFFECTIVE. You're telling them EXACTLY what to expect if they wish come in YOUR house and push their religion on you. You can even be nice and friendly when you say it.
Also, as I pointed out in another post, on my mission, if it weren't for people sharing what they learned with me about Mormonism from their "anti-Mormon" books, I'd probably still be Mormon today.
Cheryl Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > n/t just say thank you for carding but I am a christian and I do know Jesus Christ. Close the door
I've shared the truth with missionies and had numerous conversations with the Bishop and Stake Prez. The sisters have had my wife tell them about MMM and how BP/SP/70's all participated.
Try telling them that, if they want to leave the mission, you know of people who can help them, and ways they can get home. If they go back and report it to the mission prez, he might not risk sending anymore to your door just in case!!!
anony Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > My nevermo friend who lives near SLC got so sick > of them one day that he opened the door butt naked > when they rang. I believe it worked for him!
Oh, yeah. I can picture the scene, now!
"So, when the doorbell rang, I thought it was the Mormon missionaries, so I answered the door butt naked! And, you can imagine the surprise I had when I saw those two Girl Guides, collecting for their appeal!"
"And that, your honour, is the case for the defence."
Say "No, thank you" and shut the door. It works every single time, and they won't even remember you, because that's what 99% of the rest of the world does.
One time I had the misfortune to deal with a couple of especially zealous (or annoying, depending on your point of view) mishies.
Finally I said: "Right. You've convinced me of the importance of the afterlife. I'll now go and find myself a nice Jewish girl to marry so at least our kids will enjoy it."
I just tell them to leave and not come back. If they say they won't go, I threaten to turn on the garden hose and aim. That works me better than anything.
Assertiveness is a handy skill to have, and to practice. Often in our lives we fail to use it enough.
So, a special thank you to missionaries, bishops bearing callings, and other buttinsky Mormoids. With your help I'm starting to get good at this "NO!" business.
There is something to that. It's good to learn to say NO. And not feel bad about it. No means no. No is a complete sentence.
It's empowering too, if the other party respects you enough to take NO for an answer.
In my case, I said NO for 15 years after they tracked me down and targeted me at my home.
No, I'm not interested at all No, I will not accept your "free gift" No, I will not accept your plate of baked goods No, I will not respond to the demands you sent through the mail to meet with me or give you my personal contact information! No, I will not attend your meetings No, there is nothing you can do for me I am on the NO CONTACT list
Over and over.
Sure, each one of them left, but new faces always came to take their places. And sometimes they would show up when I was gone and leave stuff on my porch. Or send me things through the mail. At the point when I realized they absolutely did not respect me, and saying NO made me feel powerless instead of empowered (because I knew they would not listen) it was time to change "No" to something they could not ignore. I didn't do it specifically to stop them from coming, but "I resign" seems to have done the trick so far.
After I resigned, they didn't come with a Christmas message. Or a birthday message (not even through the mail! Woot!) Or within a few weeks of conference. First time I've been left alone around those dates since they first targeted my address.
So... If No doesn't do it (even though it should), I Resign might!!
Edited to add: We even started handing out printed copies of the CES letter, and they still came!! All I can think is the people who took them maybe didn't mention it to the Bishop or something... Or maybe those copies did some good and helped someone else out. I'll never know, I guess. I hope it did some good.
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