Date: December 08, 2017 12:01AM
So Lucifer (named from a mistranslated passage in Isaiah) was
cast out of heaven along with 1/3 of God's children (that he
ended up casting out billions of His own children would seem to
call into question God's parenting abilities). So, basically,
Lucifer/Satan is just a disembodied spirit that's been cast
So how can he tempt us?
I have a body. I can type things on a keyboard. I can write
things with a pen. I have vocal cords. I can make sound waves
in the air. Every way that I can communicate with anyone has to
do with my body. But Satan doesn't have a body, so how does he
communicate his "temptation" to us?" In fact, how does Satan
interact with the physical world (including us) at all?
On a similar tack, it once occurred to me that the invisible man
must be blind. Since light just passes through his body without
interacting with his retinas, his eyes can't form an image to
send to his brain. He must be blind.
Similarly bodyless-spirits like Satan, do not have any way of
interacting with the physical world. Therefore, Satan does not
absorb photons. Satan can't see us. He has no ear-drum that
vibrates with sound waves so he can't hear us either.
So, how the hell (no pun intended) does Satan tempt us?
Date: December 08, 2017 12:28AM
Exactly. That's why I never was afraid of " ghosts". I knew they could never physically move objects across the room, or kill people, unless you think you see a ghost and run out the room screaming, accidentally falling out a 2nd floor window, hitting the pavement below.
I believe in some form of spirits after someone dies, but not in physical form, just a feeling that some presence is there.
It happens rarely though. It could be just imagination though to someone you were close too, no where near what the stereotype of a spirit or presence might be.
Date: December 08, 2017 02:26AM
But, according to LDS doctrine, I have a spirit body too. I had
a spirit body just like Lucifer's, but I didn't get cast out so
my spirit body now inhabits a physical body. Lucifer was a
spirit who got cast out BEFORE getting a body. That means I
have EVERYTHING that Lucifer has and more.
However, I'm unable to do anything to anybody. Unable to see
"spirits bodies"--just physical bodies. unable to affect
anything physical without using physical means. Unable to put
thoughts into anyone's mind without use of the physical senses,
So how can Lucifer tempt anyone? I should be able to tempt
people as much as Lucifer can and more. Besides, he's just one
guy with no body and no special God-like mojo powers. He's no
more powerful than I am--in fact he's less powerful.
I guess that's why he needs the 1/3 of the hosts of heaven as
his minions. I wonder how he keeps them in line--keeps them on
duty trying, with their pathetic, limited powers, to tempt us
flesh-and-bone people. I'd think after 6000 years there would
be dissention in the ranks of his minions, specially given that
they were the ones to were the dissenters against authority in
the first place.
It makes no sense.
Date: December 08, 2017 12:37PM
Adam is the one who is the closest here. All that Satan energy needs is some sort of transmitter.
Now, most people don't know this, but I've researched it carefully. Satan isn't messing with those fake pine-tree microwave towers. No. No fiber optics for that clever guy. No.
It's that innocuous-looking Moroni at the top of mormon temples hither, thither and yon that transmits all of Satan's communiques with humans.
What do you guys think that horn is for, fer cryin out loud?
AND,,,, why do you think old Moroni gets an occasional lightening strike in the arse?