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Posted by: Badassadam1 ( )
Date: November 14, 2017 04:07PM

It really really really pisses me off when people say its their tax money that we are living on. No that is not how disability works, it is my own social security that i paid in over my lifetime coming back to me, my own retirement money coming to me early. Ok do we got it i think we got. Just something that annoys me to get off my chest.

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Posted by: ificouldhietokolob ( )
Date: November 14, 2017 04:09PM

Yep.
And in my state (CA), we also pay "SDI" (state disability insurance) out of our paychecks every week. If you go on disability, you get paid out of that plan as well as the SSA.
It's not "freeloading."

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Posted by: Badassadam1 ( )
Date: November 14, 2017 04:43PM

Thank You Hie somebody knows.

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Posted by: itzbeen20 ( )
Date: November 14, 2017 04:12PM

Yes. Kombucha for diabetes.

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Posted by: summer ( )
Date: November 14, 2017 05:29PM

I agree with you. It's a benefit that you have already paid for and will likely continue to pay for over the course of your lifetime. When I went on Worker's Comp for four months, it was explained to me that it was essentially an insurance benefit.

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Posted by: Done & Done ( )
Date: November 14, 2017 06:01PM

Disability is an insurance which is deducted from the employee's paycheck each pay period. I think here in Ca. it costs the employee less than 1% of their gross.

Worker's Comp is an insurance also but is paid for by the employer. It is very expensive as it is plagued with law suits.

Neither are considered government welfare.

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Posted by: Aquarius123 ( )
Date: November 14, 2017 07:03PM

Who considers it welfare? Only somebody who is ignorant! Some people say that about social security and retirement, which is stupid, too. I just laugh it off, knowing it's not true. People need to mind their own business.

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Posted by: catnip ( )
Date: November 14, 2017 07:15PM

Anybody who has had FICA tax taken out of their earnings has paid into Social Security. And SSI comes out of the General trust fund, which is in the Great Melting Pot of tax revenues, as well.

I never paid into FICA; as a Federal employee prior to 1984, I only paid into Civil Service, which is why I am not eligible for any form of Social Security except Medicare. (I get Civil Service pension, instead.)

As with insurance premiums, almost everyone pays into them, but not everyone gets to collect. There are "fiduciaries" (specialists" who study this stuff like you would not believe.)

Almost everyone who works has paid into Social Security and its offshoots, as well as welfare. Yes, there are exceptions, but not a lot of them.

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Posted by: summer ( )
Date: November 15, 2017 05:26AM

I've never understood the Federal Pension system. Can employees get both if they spend a significant amount of time working for the Federal Government, but also an employer who is under the Social Security system? When I was job-hunting as a young woman, I was made to feel that you had to make a choice one way or the other.

And why would Federal Workers have a separate system? Is there any advantage in doing so? It seems like it simply takes the place of Social Security, and you have to have other savings in place, anyway.

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Posted by: catnip ( )
Date: November 17, 2017 09:57PM

paid into Civil Service retirement, not Social Security. The only explanation I ever got was that Social Security employees could not be covered under Social Security, because they knew every possible way to trick or defraud the system.

In 1984, we were given the choice to either stay with Civil Service (which I did) or start paying into Social Security. There was a "grandfathering" period for people who had paid into both.

From what I've seen, I do better under Civil Service than most people do under Social Security. But then, I gave them 30 years of my life, and worked hard.

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Posted by: donbagley ( )
Date: November 14, 2017 08:23PM

I get an SSI check each month. It comes from my Social Security account, which I paid into for decades. I also receive a small company pension. These are earned benefits, and I refuse to feel guilty about it. I got enough of that from Mormon family, and I stopped communicating with the blighters.

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Posted by: Badassadam1 ( )
Date: November 14, 2017 08:34PM

I am very tired of feeling guilty for everything. It has not ended since i was a kid. I almost feel guilty for even being here like i was born on accident.

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Posted by: Amyjo ( )
Date: November 14, 2017 08:39PM

If I left work on a disability I'd make more than were I to take early retirement at 62. To break even, would need to work until I'm nearly 67 to make in retirement what I'd get in SSDI if I qualified today.

Kinda stinks to be indentured servitude, but I'll keep working as long as I can. If my health gives out I just hope it does before I turn 62, not after so I can apply for disability before taking early retirement.

I've been paying into Social Security since I was 15 years old.

Heck no, it isn't welfare. It's "old age" insurance. By 2035 the benefits may be in jeopardy with talk that it won't be there to pay the same benefits that it does today. I try not to worry that far in advance, but it does factor into my retirement planning - if there is such a thing. That's only 18 years away.

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Posted by: catnip ( )
Date: November 15, 2017 01:10AM

He knows better than to mess with the seniors, but he has his eye on disability, just as Reagan did, only more draconian. I hope Congress won't let him get away with it, but from what I've read, it's scary.

I'm hoping that this is only a blip in his scattered little brain, and he may get distracted by something else.

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Posted by: Badassadam1 ( )
Date: November 17, 2017 02:44PM

We call him 45 haha he has no name.

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