“The preferred pronunciation of the word Motard is /MO - turd/. The accent is on the first syllable making the vowel have an open or breve (long) sound. The r-controlled, a, is an irregular phoneme best represented by the urd cluster.” Judic West, On the Science of Phonetics.
BYU Boner Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > “The preferred pronunciation of the word Motard is /MO - turd/. The accent is on the first syllable making the vowel have an open or breve (long) sound. The r-controlled, a, is an irregular phoneme best represented by the urd cluster.” Judic West, On the Science of Phonetics.
Well, I am going to disagree with Judic West. While the first syllable is indeed open, it is a macron and not a breve (the breve is a diacritical mark used to mark short vowels.) I will concede his pronunciation of the "ard" cluster in English as an unaccented syllable.
I agree with Tom about the pronunciation in French.
But a problem arises if we adopt "motard" as a means for heaping derision on said "motards"!
What happens should a "motard" see the light and leave the church? He or she might then be called an "exmotard", which does not have a good sound to it!!
lurking in Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Its history dates back to long before the term > "mentally retarded" and the derogatory word > "retard" were ever even imagined. > > "Dotard" is rarely used any more; it seems Kim > Jong Un's Korean-English dictionary is a bit > dated.
Yes, but describing someone as being in their dotage is quite co mmon still.
Yeah, I understand. The R one had become a hateful, horribly dismissive word. But just because another word rhymes with it, doesn't make that word 'bad'. I think you have to sensitize yourself to it, and that's an unfortunate process to have gone through.
Remember the stir caused by some government person somewhere having used, quite properly, the word ni**ardly? Defamation by association.
scmd Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Absoltely. And while it's close to a sight rhyme, > it doesn't have an actual auditory rhyme, as it's > properly pronounced DOHterd rather than DOH TARD.
List ye scmd! An actual auditory rhyme the word doth have.
As in: "The old and doddering goatherd was regarded by all as a DOHterd."
elderpopejoy Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > scmd Wrote: > -------------------------------------------------- > ----- > > Absoltely. And while it's close to a sight > rhyme, > > it doesn't have an actual auditory rhyme, as > it's > > properly pronounced DOHterd rather than DOH > TARD. > > List ye scmd! An actual auditory rhyme the word > doth have. > > As in: "The old and doddering goatherd was > regarded by all as a DOHterd."