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Posted by: Razortooth ( )
Date: September 19, 2017 07:47PM


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Posted by: summer ( )
Date: September 19, 2017 07:51PM

I see religion as being a human thing. I don't think that God needs to be worshipped any more than a parent needs to be "worshipped" by his or her children. Appreciated, maybe. But worshipped, no.

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Posted by: spiritist ( )
Date: September 19, 2017 08:36PM

God certainly didn't declare that everyone should worship him!

If God wanted us to worship Him, He would make that point clear!

All religions are man made and have nothing to do with God!

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Posted by: Darin ( )
Date: September 19, 2017 08:48PM

Acts 17:25
25 Nor is He worshiped with men’s hands, as though He needed anything, since He gives to all life, breath, and all things.

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Posted by: ificouldhietokolob ( )
Date: September 20, 2017 09:02AM

spiritist Wrote:
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> God certainly didn't declare that everyone should
> worship him!
>
> If God wanted us to worship Him, He would make
> that point clear!

Really?

John 4:23
"But an hour is coming, and now is, when the true worshipers will worship the Father in spirit and truth; for such people the Father seeks to be His worshipers."

Psalm 29:1-2
"Ascribe to the LORD, O sons of the mighty, Ascribe to the LORD glory and strength. Ascribe to the LORD the glory due to His name; Worship the LORD in holy array."

2 Kings 17:35-36
"...with whom the LORD made a covenant and commanded them, saying, "You shall not fear other gods, nor bow down yourselves to them nor serve them nor sacrifice to them. "But the LORD, who brought you up from the land of Egypt with great power and with an outstretched arm, Him you shall fear, and to Him you shall bow yourselves down, and to Him you shall sacrifice."

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Posted by: spiritist ( )
Date: September 20, 2017 09:55AM

Just for the record neither you nor I believe 'God' wrote the bible or 'inspired' humans to write it!

Give me a 'quote' by 'God' next time!

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Posted by: ificouldhietokolob ( )
Date: September 20, 2017 09:56AM

spiritist Wrote:
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> Just for the record neither you nor I believe
> 'God' wrote the bible or 'inspired' humans to
> write it!
>
> Give me a 'quote' by 'God' next time!

Since no such thing exists, I can't.

I can provide numerous quotes from people who claim to know what some 'god' thing says or means.
None of them (present company included) should be "believed."

:)

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Posted by: spiritist ( )
Date: September 20, 2017 10:10AM

If you had a 'personal relationship' with the divine you could give me one of your 'spiritual experiences' explaining that you were suppose to worship God in a specific way.

But of course you don't, so you can't!

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Posted by: ificouldhietokolob ( )
Date: September 20, 2017 10:17AM

spiritist Wrote:
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> If you had a 'personal relationship' with the
> divine you could give me one of your 'spiritual
> experiences' explaining that you were suppose to
> worship God in a specific way.
>
> But of course you don't, so you can't!

Since no person anywhere can provide any evidence of any kind there IS some 'divine' thing ('god' or other) to have any kind of 'personal relationship' with, or that they have some 'personal relationship' with any such thing, of course I can't.
Neither can you.

You let me know when you've got evidence of your 'divine' thing. Until then, there's no reason for me or anyone else to believe there is such a thing.

And before you say it ('cause you will), your 'personal experiences' are not evidence. Yes, I know you'll claim they are...but they aren't.



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 09/20/2017 10:18AM by ificouldhietokolob.

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Posted by: Anonymous Today ( )
Date: September 20, 2017 03:37PM

spiritist Wrote:
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> If God wanted us to worship Him, He would make
> that point clear!


Right. And if God existed, He would make that point clear!

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Posted by: spiritist ( )
Date: September 20, 2017 07:49PM

He has made it 'very clear' in my life.

If 'God' hasn't made it clear in yours maybe the problem is not God's but yours!

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Posted by: koriwhore ( )
Date: September 19, 2017 10:42PM

"The moment you conclude the answer is, God, you become worthless to me in the lab, because you have abandoned the sacred quest for the real cause." NdGT

Turns out the real cause was the God Particle all along, minus the particle, since it is more of a field.
You are swimming in it.
It in you,
Through you
You are mostly the field
God Particle
Which seems to me to be the condition created
Between Dark Matter and Dark Energy
here, where E=mc^2 and E/c^2=m
Where light slows down and becomes neutrinos ghost particles, that flow through you Trillion at a time.
in this dimension
Where symmetry is broken
Between positive and negative
Night and day
And becomes one
Singularity
Where we are all headed
14Million MPH
Towards the Great Attractor.
Inexorably
Singularly

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Posted by: Babyloncansuckit ( )
Date: September 20, 2017 07:22AM

I'll have what you're having.

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Posted by: GregS ( )
Date: September 20, 2017 08:34AM

It reminds me of a Deist who wrote, "God gave us reason, not religion."

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Posted by: Dave the Atheist ( )
Date: September 20, 2017 09:18AM

All gods are equally real.

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Posted by: badassadam ( )
Date: September 20, 2017 11:32AM

I have thought this many times as well. I dont think god plays a part in any religion if he does exist. He just lets men do whatever they want to get money for themselves.

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Posted by: Done &. Done ( )
Date: September 20, 2017 12:12PM

Let's suppose there is a God--traditional definition God, not
"God can be any thing" God. Mormon definition will do.,

His Royal Highness has created 110 Billion people and counting to populate just one of his planets on the Universe. He has made stars and solar systems by the gazillions. He is omnipotent, omniscient, and ageless. And, ladies and gentlemen, after all of these massive achievements, his main concerns at the moment are:


Tea--black or green
Coffee
White shirts
Covered shoulders
Same sex love
Your car keys
Not paying for janitors
Tebow's touchdowns
Getting your elderly grandmother to donate her house
Keeping your hands north of the border
Telling your zoo keeper bishop that you weren't able to keep your hands north of the border
Making sure you are bored to death for three hours a week
Confusing people about their own DNA
Killing first borns and drowning a planet
Turning staffs to snakes and throwing in a plague of frogs for good measure.
Secret hand shakes while you are dressed like a clown
And hiding dinosaur bones here and there like Easter eggs

Please check your God's resume. Look at it critically and impartially. Will you still hire him to be your God? Does he meet the criteria you set forth for your personal needs? Because remember, God works for the religious, not the other way around.

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Posted by: badassadam ( )
Date: September 20, 2017 03:09PM

This put it in perspective for sure.

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Posted by: smirkorama ( )
Date: September 20, 2017 04:36PM

you are starting to sound like (the religion loathing) New Testament Jesus Christ

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Posted by: donbagley ( )
Date: September 20, 2017 07:23PM

The man who calls on you to worship God is looking for a handout.

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Posted by: catnip ( )
Date: September 20, 2017 07:45PM

Think about it. As little kids, we could say, "My big brother's gonna beat the CR@P outta you, just you wait!" Or it could be Dad. We needed to feel that we had somebody big, strong and invincible in our corner. Especially when we don't feel powerful to take on the situation ourselves.

That's why we had to create a Mega-Superpower. The problem with that one is that he/she/it is notoriously unreliable. Can't be trusted to intervene in the right way or at the right time. So we invented "sure-fire" placation rituals: special prayers, candles, sacrifices - all supposed to tally up points to make God "owe" us a favor in return. But God doesn't keep score the way we do.

Notice, there is always scriptural wiggle room. You have to be "righteous" enough, asking for something that God would want anyway, (so why doesn't he tend to it without your prompting??) If he doesn't come through with the right response, it is almost certainly YOUR fault.

It's a win/win for God every time. But not for us.

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