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Posted by: Babyloncansuckit ( )
Date: August 06, 2017 12:44PM

That's a news story? Where was the wire? How did she touch it? Why didn't her magic underwear protect her?

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Posted by: Heartless ( )
Date: August 06, 2017 12:49PM

In central and south america some showers heat the water right at the shower head using an electrical heater.

I've had a jolt or two trying to adjust the shower head.

On one hand you have unlimited hot water. On the other you are putting a live electrical appliance in water.

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Posted by: memikeyounot ( )
Date: August 06, 2017 05:53PM

Not making light of this tragic situation, but here's a picture of a shower head that was in a missionary apartment, Sao Paulo, Brasil when I was there in 1969.

I recall getting at least 2 shocks, not very strong, until I learned what position to take in the shower stall.

http://imgur.com/a/wpm3U

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Posted by: Dennis Moore nli ( )
Date: August 06, 2017 09:44PM

That picture is nucking futs! Water + Electricity= shock!

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Posted by: knotheadusc ( )
Date: August 07, 2017 05:37AM

When I was a Peace Corps Volunteer in Armenia, most places did not have hot water heaters. Consequently, a lot of folks heated their water with immersion heaters. You'd fill a bucket with water, plug in the heater, and drop it in the water. It only took a couple of times to learn not to stick your hand in the water while the heater was in it. You'd get a nasty shock! I started heating my bath water on my propane stove or kerosene heater just because the immersion heater was so creepy. Also, during my first year, I had no electricity a lot of the time, so the immersion heater was worthless.

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Posted by: Floridian ( )
Date: August 07, 2017 03:55PM

Yep. I had to redo the wires on ours so we could have hot water without occasional jolts. Basement apartment, also São Paulo, 1968.

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Posted by: slskipper ( )
Date: August 06, 2017 01:27PM

But of course God needed another angel.

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Posted by: Dave the Atheist ( )
Date: August 06, 2017 01:36PM

Another country without those bothersome socialist electrical codes and electrical inspectors.

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Posted by: dagny ( )
Date: August 06, 2017 01:45PM

"The LDS church offers their thoughts and prayers" because that's all the responsibility they have. There are more missionaries where she came from.


Poor girl.

These kids have no clue about things they take for granted when they go to these cheap housing units in areas around the world. How many safety issues is it going to take before people realize their kids are just kids being thrown into situations they know nothing about?

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Posted by: GNPE ( )
Date: August 06, 2017 01:48PM

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Posted by: BeenThereDunnThatExMo ( )
Date: August 06, 2017 09:09PM

Yeah right...

"The LDS Church offer their thoughts and prayers for the family and loved ones of Sister Huber as they mourn her passing."

The LDS Church shouldn't be able to get off this easy!

They just killed a young lady as far as I'm concerned.

Monson, the FP & Q-12 are ALL GUILTY OF MANSLAUGHTER in this girl's death!!!

Just HOW do these GEEZERS continue to get away with this SH*T???

Or so it seems to me...

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Posted by: eternal1 ( )
Date: August 06, 2017 02:23PM

Was she from Chile serving in Guatemala?

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Posted by: dagny ( )
Date: August 06, 2017 02:33PM

I think so.

In this case, I can't blame it on USA kids being clueless.

Still, missionary housing units are not usually top notch, anywhere.

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Posted by: catnip ( )
Date: August 06, 2017 02:30PM

he said that getting hot water was dicey back then, too.

He said they often just showered in chilly water, in record time, and hustled back to their rooms to get dried off and warmed up.

I guess missionaries are considered "disposable" among the good old boys in SLC. This is tragic.

There won't be any more mishies sent from our family. We're DONE.

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Posted by: Cheryl ( )
Date: August 06, 2017 02:45PM

They also need to include a few days of training on health and safety for every missionary. These kids can't always figure out everything for themselves when they're in a new unfamiliar country with different rules and expectations.

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Posted by: Heartless ( )
Date: August 06, 2017 03:11PM

But that will take time from their knocking on doors!

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Posted by: No god ( )
Date: August 06, 2017 05:35PM

Very sad. Why wouldn't god protect her from that danger?

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Posted by: Texmo ( )
Date: August 06, 2017 06:29PM

My nephew recently came back from his mission in Brazil where the shower/electrical wire situation is similar. It's been a problem for many years but LDS Inc. doesn't seem to care at all. How many missionaries need to die or become injured from dangerous living conditions before something is done about it?

You'll now hear TBMs say that the missionary was needed to preach the gospel in the next life. She must have been really special. Disgusting.

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Posted by: Craig C ( )
Date: August 06, 2017 07:46PM

How incredibly sad for this woman and her family.

In 1977, I was a missionary on the Uruguay-Brazilian border, and the same thing happened to me. The water was not heating up, so I lightly tapped the electric heater on the shower head to see if the power would kick in. It did, and the sudden jolt knocked me to the back of the shower. This has probably happened to many people.

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Posted by: GNPE ( )
Date: August 06, 2017 10:30PM

Doesn't a designated PH holder inspect all mish lodgings Before they're allowed to occupy them?

I thought that is 100%



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 08/06/2017 10:31PM by GNPE.

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Posted by: dagny ( )
Date: August 06, 2017 11:05PM

I don't think we know where she contacted the live electrical wire(?). Maybe it wasn't inside her apartment?

Just to be fair in our speculations.

Sad and tragic no matter how it happened.

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Posted by: baura ( )
Date: August 07, 2017 12:27AM

Gee could this have anything to do with the fact that
missionaries are put up in the cheapest, rat-trap apartments?

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Posted by: Texmo ( )
Date: August 07, 2017 01:05AM

Exactly, Baura. Although my mission was in Switzerland, my crappy studio apartment in Zurich, located next to the expressway with trucks whizzing by all night long, had mould in the ceiling that would not go away with any amount of bleach. Everyone who stayed in that apartment got sick and finally we were moved to another apartment.

The fourth apartment I stayed in was in the attic of an old building and infested with mice. At night, just as my comp and I were dozing off, the mice (rats?) would scurry around under our beds, looking for food. We were too tired to do anything about it.

As bad as some of those apartments were, it was so nice to return to them after grueling missionary work. Mould and rats were preferable to knocking on doors nine hours a day.

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Posted by: knotheadusc ( )
Date: August 07, 2017 08:50AM

I would imagine a mission in Switzerland would be very difficult, despite how beautiful it is there. They aren't exactly the most religious people in the world. Plus, it's so expensive!

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Posted by: Texmo ( )
Date: August 07, 2017 07:00PM

It was difficult, but I loved living there. I wish I had been a student or employee instead of a missionary. I was there back in the 80s when the dollar was really strong. At its peak it was about 4 Swiss Franks for 1 US dollar. Today the exchange is about 1 Swiss Frank for 1 US dollar.

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Posted by: Kathleen ( )
Date: August 07, 2017 01:40AM

Endangerment.

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Posted by: bradley ( )
Date: August 07, 2017 02:02AM

Someone needs to sue to get mishie housing inspected. The church can have its own building standards.

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Posted by: unbelievable2 ( )
Date: August 07, 2017 04:03AM

I had similar experiences serving in LA, CA mission in 1992-93. My first place was an old shed in the back of someone's home. Most of the housing in LA was terrible. Also, three homes of members were invested, too.

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Posted by: robinsaintcloud ( )
Date: August 07, 2017 12:54PM

Had one of those shower heaters in the Philippines in my first area in 1973. After that, mostly cold showers. Had to chase huge rat off the refrigerator at night to get a drink of boiled water out of the fridge. chased a bat around the 'chapel' for one of our yw/ym activities once. contracted tuberculosis. one mish witnessed kids getting killed during military skirmish with rebels, went home and had mental health issues, then died shortly thereafter.

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Posted by: Breeze ( )
Date: August 07, 2017 03:30PM

The Mormon cult brainwashes parents into believing that the cult is the best judge of a child's welfare. The leaders make false claims to be inspired, and even to have "authority" from The Lord's Holy Priesthood. They even claim to cure the sick. Good Mormon parents defer to the cult, whenever there's any decision to be made. ("The Bishop is the father of our ward." "Monson is a Prophet of God." "The Garment of The Holy Priesthood will protect you.") It's all lies. Mormons seem to be "desensitized" to pain and suffering and abuse. In fact, the more suffering a Mormon endures, the more holy he perceives himself/herself to be.

Missionaries are still children. Responsible parents need to hire attorneys, and gather the facts: Most of the housing is LDS-owned directly, or owned by other Mormons. The LDS-owned housing should be regulated. It is not regulated by the LDS, Inc, so it should be regulated by the PARENTS. No decent housing, no money to pay for missions. Period!

The mission president and his wife should inspect every one of these apartments/houses/shacks/huts, and spend one night sleeping in each one.

The whole thing is creepy! Missionaries aren't allowed to have visitors come and see their living conditions. They aren't allowed to write home about the truth. They aren't given medical care, when they are sick. Their passports are confiscated, and they are not allowed to travel or to go home. It is inhumane!!!!

I wonder if the Mormon cult should be reported to the American Government--I don't know anything about this, obviously--and be sanctioned for violating Human Rights.

It isn't child abuse, because these kids are over 18? Well-- guess what--parents are still parents for life!

Seriously, I look into the blank faces and empty eyes of Mormon parents, and wonder--HOW can they do this to their children? One Morgbot has a missionary in Africa, who is living in the dirt. Another acquaintance has a son in Detroit, who lived in a ghetto that has frequent shoot-outs. (He was not allowed to tell his parents! He wrote only after he was relocated.) My cousin's son had a horrible toothache, but was forced to "tough it out" until time to go home--4 months! He lost 40 pounds! (He was afraid to e-mail home about it, because the e-mails went to his non-Mormon relatives, and he didn't want to give them the wrong--the right--impression of the cult.)

The Mormons start out gradually, with separating the kids from the parents in nursery, Primary, Scouts, YM-YW, sleepovers and campouts, pioneer trek. Parents are not welcome at these.

Kids are coerced into imprisonment and silence.

Mormon parents need to wake up!

I take responsibility for helping to create circumstances that led to my children being abused in the Mormon cult. I was distracted by my church calling, and when I was looking the other way on Sundays, my children were being bullied, threatened with "burning in the second coming" and being separated from their loved ones forever, in the hereafter. When my kids reported on-going physical abuse and an attempted molestation, I took the initiative and got us out of the cult! I can never apologize to my children enough! They are great human beings, and they didn't need to go through UNNECESSARY suffering, just because I, their mother, was brainwashed.

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