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Posted by: SusieQ#1 ( )
Date: June 10, 2017 05:06PM

Lately, I have noticed that there are a lot of words I don't use at all, or use rarely since leaving the LDS Church.
Mormonism has a vocabulary specific to the religion. Some words were made up by Joseph Smith Jr, and some found their way into the culture through the generations of members and the remnants of their language, especially from the Mid-West as they made their trek across the US.

I was wracking my brain today for the word: discernment. That got me thinking about words I don't use much anymore like: Sister____, Brother____, inspiration, Bishop, meetings, Sacrament, hymns, worthy, obedience, laws, commandments, missions, Elder, President, Fireside, speakers, talks, callings, blessings, special, sweet, modesty, jello, funeral potatoes, confession, tithing, temple, recommend, .....

That's just flowed off the top of my head.

What is on your list?



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Posted by: BYU Boner ( )
Date: June 10, 2017 07:25PM

Words I avoid due to Mormon usage--

Choice
Free agency
Heavenly Father
Edifying
Succor
Stewardship
Ponder
Obedience
Sacrifice
Millennium
Witness
Inspired

Words that I added to my vocabulary--
(insert preferred cuss word here)

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Posted by: Itzpapalotl ( )
Date: June 10, 2017 07:36PM

Moisture.

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Posted by: BYU Boner ( )
Date: June 16, 2017 12:10AM

Oh, how could I have left THAT one out? The Embarrassed Boner.



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Posted by: Strength in the Loins ( )
Date: June 10, 2017 07:49PM

I don't think I've said thee/thine since leaving the church.

"Taking the name of the Lord in vain", not only do I not use that phrase anymore, but I've actually become quite adept at doing that very thing.

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Posted by: SusieQ#1 ( )
Date: June 10, 2017 08:05PM

Strength in the Loins Wrote:
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> I don't think I've said thee/thine since leaving
> the church.

Me either! Done with that!
>
> "Taking the name of the Lord in vain", not only do
> I not use that phrase anymore, but I've actually
> become quite adept at doing that very thing.

Funny story about that .. taking the Lord's name in vain...thing. I was trying to not offend anyone and said,put of frustration: "cheese and crackers" in stead of Jesus Christ and one of my grandsons heard me and asked why I said" cheese and crackers"!! :-)

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Posted by: memikeyounot ( )
Date: June 11, 2017 05:42PM

I never ever said the word God as a curse word until I left the church, but I sure do now.

I was at work last night, trying to get things done so I could close the parking booth and leave.

There are gates that go up and down as people go in and out and the gates are old and don't work always the way they're supposed to.

Long story short, one wasn't going down like it's supposed to and after several tries, I said "Goddammit, Goddammit, Goddammit" and what to you know, it started working!

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Posted by: pianoforte ( )
Date: June 12, 2017 01:04AM

Really, the ability to use Early Modern English grammar has been my only compensation for all those early hours suffering in seminary!

I would say my language has gotten a whole lot more DIVERSE since I allow myself to read whatever I like.

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Posted by: Amyjo ( )
Date: June 10, 2017 08:18PM

Both my parents cussed like sailors even when they were active TR holders.

Their favorite cuss word was the Lord's name. I have a tendency to avoid using that to this day, maybe because of their overuse of it during my formative years, I hated hearing them use it over and over again.

My fave word in my teens was the eff bomb.

My dad never forgot the one time I said that in his presence, during one of our disagreements when I was all of 19 or 20. He could swear like a sailor, but not once did he ever use the eff bomb. I used it once and it might as well been a thousand times as far as he was concerned.

Cussing lightly is a form of venting for me now, and I tend not to guilt over it. I reserve the Lord's name for special occasions, and when I use it is almost like saying a prayer (seriously.) I figure by saying OMG, or Jesus, I'm invoking their names to implore their help, not to use them in vain.

I figure if the last words I ever utter are "Oh God," or "heavenly father," etc, I'm committing my spirit to his care.

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Posted by: Humberto ( )
Date: June 10, 2017 10:10PM

I still use the word "recommend", but only as a verb.

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Posted by: Lethbridge Reprobate ( )
Date: June 10, 2017 11:15PM

I never "did"...Mormonspeak. I also never used a made up cuss words either.

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Posted by: Amyjo ( )
Date: June 10, 2017 11:29PM

Reminds me of my classmates as a kid. When I would say "jeez" or "Gee whiz," some inevitably would say that was swearing as it was a nickname for Jesus. :)

So apparently even when we weren't trying to cuss, we were.

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Posted by: Stray Mutt ( )
Date: June 11, 2017 12:04AM

There are perfectly good English words Mormonism has given different meanings. Like witness, testimony, true and garment. I use those words, but with their actual meaning.

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Posted by: kathleen ( )
Date: June 11, 2017 12:08AM

No "tender mercies" come outta this mouth.

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Posted by: kathleen ( )
Date: June 11, 2017 12:12AM

And, I no longer pronounce the word "ensign" as "en-SINE."
That dove me nuts!!!

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Posted by: catnip ( )
Date: June 16, 2017 01:05AM

I had real problems with "En-sign." It just sounded wrong.

And overall, my vocabulary has gone to Hades in a handbasket. My oldest son, who was a young teenager when I joined the church, could not believe how I cleaned up my language.

Then, one evening, when I was taking him out to Taco Bell or someplace as a treat (our budget was pretty lean in those days), some idiot other driver came within a cat's whisker of taking out the front end of my car. If I hadn't leaned on both the horn and the brakes, he would have hit me.

After about a year without swearing, I called the other driver a very bad word. My son burst out laughing, and said, "There! Doesn't that feel better??" Sure enough, it did.

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Posted by: GNPE ( )
Date: June 11, 2017 12:10AM

LDS usage is often ambiguous & imprecise....filled with Code Words for other Mormons to understand-decipher.

LDS engineers I've known sometimes 'slip'
a comment on this phenom...



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Posted by: bluebutterfly ( )
Date: June 11, 2017 03:00AM

I don't like the word obedience/obedient, so I don't say it. I also don't ever refer to anyone still in the church as brother_____ or sister_____, or anything with a title like bishop, president, etc. My TBM parents and sister cannot speak one sentence without it containing some link to Mormonism. So people that I used to know of that they might bring up in conversation will always be referred to by their first and last name by me. I refuse to say brother or sister. It sounds so effing cultish.
I used to feel really guilty about saying Jesus Christ or goddamnit as swear words, but now it seems I'm making up for lost time. I think it's a phase. Lol

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Posted by: janis ( )
Date: June 17, 2017 09:18PM

I'll use the F word before i'll utter the O word.

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Posted by: Breeze ( )
Date: June 11, 2017 04:10AM

I never used the words Brother___ or Sister___. I felt it was weird. It didn't make sense to use anything, other than the respectful Mr. or Mrs. Whenever I write about bishops, stake presidents, etc., I don't capitalize those so-called "titles of authority." The authority is fake. Mormons are lay people, and have done nothing to earn a real title, such as PhD, MD, etc. It's too stratified. Everyone is Mr. or Mrs. I don't like that one title holds more power than another.

Has my vocabulary changed? Hell yeah!

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Posted by: Lethbridge Reprobate ( )
Date: June 11, 2017 08:25PM

I have never called anyone "brother" or "sister" in my whole life....and I have told more than one person that I was NOT their brother....and on the rare occasion someone dared refer to my Catholic wife as "Sister Burr"....it did not go well.

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Posted by: janis ( )
Date: June 17, 2017 09:25PM

I never called anyone brother or sister_____. The stake Pres. once gave me a stern lecture for being disrespectful because I addressed a letter to the dudes in SLC by saying " Dear Sirs" instead of Dear (IDK)whatever he thought.

I've been through college classes on how to write business letters. It's not like I don't know what i'm doing. I told Mr. SP that he was waaaaay out of line on this one and I'd prove it to him if he insisted.

That man really really hates me. I called him out at every turn. How dare I! I don't even have one of those thingy's attached to my crotch.

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Posted by: Done & Done ( )
Date: June 11, 2017 10:59AM

Remiss! That was a favorite in my stake and I hated it even then. Seemed phony and there was usually a pretentious inflection made with it. "I would be remiss if I did not stand and bear . . ."

Nowadays when I visit Utah I just hunger to hear something described as anything but, "amazing."

Is nothing remarkable, astounding,phenomenal,splendid, or formidable anymore? Does everything have to be amazing? Maybe it's just my home town. I dunno . . .

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Posted by: It Gets Better ( )
Date: June 11, 2017 02:13PM

Desirous

I hate this word. I was looking through some old e-mail, and I actually used this several times.... a long time ago.

Yech!

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Posted by: Dave the Atheist ( )
Date: June 11, 2017 02:26PM

I tend to not use the word "supernal" anymore.

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Posted by: mikey ( )
Date: June 11, 2017 02:32PM

The phrase that sticks in my mind and that I loathe is
"with every fiber of my being." Whenever I see someone on TV using that phrase during an interview (I live in the Midwest)
I highly suspect the speaker is Mormon.

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Posted by: GNPE ( )
Date: June 11, 2017 02:51PM

^^^^^^^^

Deferance to the leaders & their claimed authority is an essential facet of LDS survival and their linguistics is a tool to reinforce it.

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Posted by: anonus ( )
Date: June 11, 2017 06:01PM


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Posted by: Texmo ( )
Date: June 11, 2017 07:38PM

Here's a list of some of the words I used when TBM and words I've replaced them with now that I've resigned.

TBM: Ward
Now: congregation

TBM: Blessing/blessed
Now: Luck, good fortune/ fortunate, grateful

TBM: Shoot
Now: Shit

TBM: Darn
Now: Damn

TBM: Fetch
Now: Fuc_

TBM: Thee/thou
Now: You

TBM: Brother/Sister
Now: Mr./Mrs.

TBM: Bear, as in bear my testimony
Now: share

TBM: calling
Now: job

TBM: Called, as called to serve a mission
Now: Told/ordered

TBM: serve/service
Now: help/free labor

TBM: service project
Now: volunteer work

TBM: garment
Now: underwear

TBM: sabbath
Now: Sunday

TBM: The holy ghost or spirit
Now: premonition, intuition

TBM: procreation
Now: sex

TBM: Lamenite
Now: Native American

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Posted by: BYU Boner ( )
Date: June 11, 2017 08:56PM

Fetch! Oh flip!

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Posted by: RandomPoster ( )
Date: June 11, 2017 11:31PM

Terms/phrases I no longer say
- Prophet
- Apostle(s)
- Sabbath
- Calling
- Eternal Companion
- Investigator
- Strengthen your/my testimony
- Mission Field
- Modest/Modesty
- Ponder

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Posted by: janis ( )
Date: June 12, 2017 01:09PM

-Righteous
-wicked
-interview
-Family Home Evening
-Baptism
-Sanctify
-Souls
-Partake
-Bishop/Stake President
-Stake
-Ward
-Relief Society
-Mutual
-Counselor
-Home/visiting teaching
-Primary
-Store house, meeting/ward house
-Senior mission/mission
-blessing
-Set apart
-confirmed
-anointed
-sealed
-Kingdom, be it Celestial, Telestial, terrestrial.
-Youth, Single adults, and all the other categories like Primary

God damned auto correct even hates mormon words.



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Posted by: NormaRae ( )
Date: June 13, 2017 12:51PM

Well, yeah. Maybe a little too much. But I've found out that there are much better words that roll off the tongue much easier, and which can be used in much better ways, with much more command, than the words: fetch, flip, heck, shoot, geez, dang, dadgummit, etc.

I won't say what they are, and they do roll out off my mouth sometimes when they shouldn't. But I have hung on to "freakin," as an occassional substitute when it seems appropriate.

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Date: June 13, 2017 05:14PM


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Date: June 13, 2017 06:07PM


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Posted by: Liz ( )
Date: June 13, 2017 07:30PM

Yes, I never use the word bishop.

When encountered, I just call him by his first name (he is younger than me by a few decades).
My TBM husband always calls him bishop of course, and I even called the stake president by his first name as well. He is also decades younger than myself.

I say it is a sign of respect for me to simply call them by their given names. I respect their parents' choice of names.
Aside from them NOT being my 'leaders' I don't see the titles as relevant.

Judges in Zion?
Give me a break!
They can't even judge their own doctrine.

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Posted by: adoylelb ( )
Date: June 14, 2017 05:08PM

I do occasionally use the word bishop, but it's describing the head of a Catholic or Episcopal diocese. In the case of the Episcopal church, there's a chance that particular bishop could be a woman.

Mr. or Mrs, instead of Brother/Sister formally, but mostly first names with people.

I also use real swear words.

To me, a church building is a chapel, not a meetinghouse.

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Posted by: EXON46 ( )
Date: June 14, 2017 05:12PM

Hell ya

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Posted by: Puli ( )
Date: June 14, 2017 05:14PM

I had a recent inaction with a guy who I believe is a Bishop of a Ward. I needed to drop off something to him and he asked that I leave it with his wife at his home. Not a problem, but I didn't know his wife's first name and I really didn't want to call her "Sister". I ended up addressing her as Mrs. and left it at that.

My first thought at your question? I swear more than when I was a member. I don't do it a lot but I don't feel guilty when I do, and I'm not offended when others around me swear.

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Posted by: relievedtolearn ( )
Date: June 15, 2017 11:25PM

nevermo here: this is giving me food for thought. We have a very nice home teacher; between me and DH I call him by his first name. When he's here, I don't call him anything.

When we have had the missionaries over for dinner---after reading all the stuff on this rfm aobut how little money for food they have, it seemed like a kind thing to do----I also avoid calling them by their names.

First time we had missionaries over, I said, what are your names? The young man kindly explained that they were encouraged to use elder__________ to remind themselves and others what they were about. Ugh.

I think if and when we have them over again, I'll stick out my hand for the requisite shake and say, "you can call me *my first name*. Sister _______ really bugs me; like, I'm an appendage, not a person? hmph.

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Posted by: bluebutterfly ( )
Date: June 16, 2017 12:16AM

For some reason the word 'nourish' sounds so yucky to me now. I also don't say blessings or so blessed. And one of my least favorites is modest/modesty. Mormons use it so condescendingly.

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Posted by: cludgie ( )
Date: June 16, 2017 01:24PM

I say "fuck" more often than one should. Even let go of it once in front of my grand kids.

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Posted by: janis ( )
Date: June 17, 2017 09:38PM

Funny story. My daughter and I have both been trying to clean up our language around her 2 year old. Our biggest problem has been the "F" word.

Granddaughter was out in the back yard with me the other day and there was a little green tree frog in the yard that we were watching. She's just learning to talk so I was telling her it was a "frog". She said fuck every time. Oh oh.

Daddy came home from work. She was telling him all about the fuck we saw in the back yard.

We got a problem.



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Posted by: peacelovemoana ( )
Date: June 16, 2017 06:14PM

"Praise be."
"May the Lord open."
"Under his eye."


...oh wait. I'm thinking of something else.

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Posted by: shapeshifter ( )
Date: June 18, 2017 10:13PM

fuck yeah, it's fucking changed! LOL.

But really I swear like a drunken sailor sometimes. But I blame it on the irish (spent a lot of time over there)..

But I also think it's from the years of repression and not being allowed to even say 'darn' in our household, or 'shut up' (I got punished badly for that one!).

I only censor myself in 'polite' society (around new people) and around kids and of course around my family. But then I have slipped a couple of times and let out a 'shit' and almost the F- bomb. Nearly shocked my sisters to death I think.

Which brought me back to their reality, my old one. And I could see how horrific it was. That level of control. I immediately felt the SHAME of saying BAD, oh so very BAD words. When they are just words. Crass maybe, crude maybe, but they are not SINS, I am not a bad person for venting my frustration with expletives! I mainly do when stubbing my toe, that kind of thing. But sometimes I use 'curse words' descriptively (while not in a rage). But I don't feel I go overboard. I feel more like I am normal human now.

I also do BLASPHEME quite a lot. OMG OMG!! But doesn't most of the world. I do forget that one is very BAD according to Mormons. Something they tolerate from 'heathens' and 'gentiles' nonetheless. But that is one that I forget to sensor sometimes around my family. But I don't see them often so that's good.

BUT I did have an old Mormon friend come by yesterday and I found myself more aware of my language esp. when I said 'Oh my GOD'.. I started to change it to 'Oh my gosh or goodness' because I got nervous I'd be offending her. Or worse feel judged by her!

OMG!! So annoying to see myself modify my behavior like that for them. I shouldn't have to! but you can always FEEL the judgment even if they never SAY anything! I don't think it was bad in this case. I am not sure her level of involvement. She knew be back in the BYU days and knows I left a long time ago. So she doesn't expect anything else from me. But that's just it. I think that she sees me as someone who couldn't be 'good' enough.. couldn't just BEHAVE! Too Wild! :) I don't know. Maybe I am guessing she's thinking that, but it's what I am used to with the TBMs.. so,..

But YES big changes..

Oh and I love to say, like the Irish, 'Jesus, Mary, and Joseph!' and I 'blaspheme' by saying JESUS a lot! And JESUS CHRIST! And my recent favorite 'Thank you BABY JESUS' My partner and I like to joke about praying to Baby Jesus. We like to be irreverent. I think that's been the most liberating part for me, only really embraced in recent years (after many years as an ExMo) being truly irreverent.

Man back in the day (Joe Smith, or Brigham Young or the Spanish Inquisition or the Salem witch trials) i would have been Blood Atoned, Tortured, Stoned, Burned Alive!

So I feel it a very important part of my liberation (free speech) and am grateful to have it back! (Of course there are many places in the world I could still be imprisoned or killed for irreverence and blasphemy)

I was just reading how the Mormons in early Utah days under Brigham actually imposed FINES on the 'gentiles' passing through Utah who swore or took the lord's name in vain! Can you imagine! Insanity!

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Posted by: janis ( )
Date: June 18, 2017 10:31PM

I used to have a Mynah bird that would sing the first few words to' Jesus Christ Superstar' when he got annoyed.

I took up his habit. Sometimes I will softly whistle the first few notes.

At least I don't scream "Go away Fucker!" when the doorbell rings.

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