I have read a couple of times on this site that people have been threatened with "disciplinary action" for posting on this and other websites. Is this true?
Contollers control, and the cult indoctrinates all members to police their own.
It's not so much that some anonymous spy (which they have) will be able to identify you. It's that any of those close to you will feel compelled to scour your devices for evidence, should they grow a suspicion.
Use Firefox, Ccleaner and LastPass, all free programs. You can upgrade the latter two to pro versions, but you really don't need to pay for them. The free versions work well. Even you won't be able to view your i-history. Don't use a browser to store your passwords or history.
My goal is to anonymously "out" those rat bastards who messed with me and my family.
It's great to have a site like this to publicly give them hell.
Were the church to learn the identity of some of the posters here, it would love nothing more than to gloat over its power to subject them to its kangaroo court.
The only power it has over you however, is the power you relinquish.
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On my mission we used to scoff at the JWs because we heard they could get kicked out for reading the BoM and other religious tracts. I do not know if that is actually true of them, but I see the LDS church is not so different. I am surprised that someone who is living all the standards of the church would be threatened simply for visiting a website.
Church members are trained to report any sinful activity to the bishop. It's a lot like the Stazi but instead of being disappeared, you get called in. The prevailing mentality is that everyone else's business is yours. There are no boundaries and besides, they could bring down the wrath of God on everyone. Or worse yet, hurt the brand.
BYU has a spy organization. The Honor Code Office has close ties to the FBI. I've read that the place is a training ground for spies. I'm sure TSCC keeps an eye on its enemies. More likely than not, I have a file in TSCC's spy apparatus. I don't have my own bubble, but I'm working on it.
Not sure I care. I'm not even civil to the door knockers anymore, I haven't seen them for a while so I suspect they've given up and I'm blacklisted on their neighborhood hit list.
My coworkers are all communists and crazy drunkard expats. As for neighbors, they are all old Chinese people who seem to only be concerned with making sure I eat healthy food.
It helped get me kicked out. SP monitored RFM and told me posts he thought were mine and tried to use them against me as well as being involved in the MormonThink website. I resigned rather than go to the bufoonery they call a church court.
When at the Y in the 90s I remember there was a student who was EXPELLED because he supposedly looked at porn sites on a campus computer. The problem at the time was that it was the early days of the internet and there wasn't much knowledge about pop up sites and junk email with bad links. He said he had clicked on one of those links thinking it was a real one and one of the porn sites popped up. He claims to have immediately closed it.
I felt so bad for him, because firstly nobody SAW him look at porn sites. Instead it was found in the browser history or something like that. And it was in either the library or a classroom, not a very private place so it was silly to think he'd be sitting there in front of other people looking at porn. I didn't care if he did visit one of those sites. What bothered me is that he'd be expelled for it or for an accident.
All I encountered over and over at BYU was Big Brother. It was very disturbing.
Worse than my experiences there was learning from my poor niece (daughter of my sociopath brother) got caught out by her father for sleeping with her boyfriend (at age 18) because he had been internet spying on her. She said he got into her computer, emails, Facebook and her phone! And it sounded like much of it was remotely. So clearly he had infected all her devices with spyware and was watching her. Such a betrayal and violation of privacy. That was worse than how he punished her for her 'sins'.. because it was such a clear betrayal of trust.
But the TBMs don't see it that way, they see it as all for your own GOOD and so feel justified in all of their very wrong and even criminal behavior.
I've posted a few stories which would easily identify me to someone who knows me, if they read it. Am I acared? Am I hell! There are no consequences, I'm out. None of my family are members and my close friends have left too.
One of my brothers who I've had to disown not once, but twice, has been a stake missionary where he lives - and who knows what other high stake callings he's held since we last spoke. I haven't kept up.
He was so dishonest in his shady dealings with me, that if he or his wife are lurking in the shadows it serves them right.
He's tried to get back into my good graces recently since my being on RfM.
Fool me once shame on you, little brother.
Fool me twice shame on me.
After what he pulled on me and my family not once but twice, he's out.
I kind of hope he is reading here. Maybe some of it will begin to sink in. Though I doubt it.
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Posted by'left4good': "If you are unfamiliar with the term, do an internet search on "Strengthening Church Members Committee." ----
P: For those who are not familiar with this committee, it was devised by Oaks and Packer. The title is doubletalk, as its purpose was/is to "strengthen Church Members" by getting rid of who they think of as troublemakers, such as the *intellectuals*--who, they believe, upset the church's apple cart.
Excommunication was/is their main weapon--as this method disgraces the member's reputation, and also serves to break up marriages, and/or even gets them fired from their jobs (if possible)
Most people can only get into trouble with the Mormon Church if they give the church permission to have power over their lives. There are a couple of legal exceptions--if someone violates copyright laws by posting copyrighted church publications, or if one has signed a non-disclosure agreement and talks about what has been agreed not to be disclosed (the church is big on these with its employees).
Nether applies to me. I keep confidential because I don't want the TBMs I care about to get hurt by a hurtful church. The Boner.
Elder Holland: The Strengthening Church Members Committee was born some years ago to protect against predatory practices of polygamists.
Nothing to see here folks. Drive on.
The Strengthening Church Members Committee (SCMC) is a committee of general authorities of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints (LDS Church) who monitor the publications of church members for possible criticism of local and general leaders of the church. If criticism is found, the committee may forward information to local church authorities, who may bring charges of apostasy, which can result in excommunication.
Yu know how dangerous it is out there. What with all the polygamists lurking in the shadows just waiting to attack, I am grateful for the protection offered me by the SCMC...
In general, I don't think it's a good idea to post too much personal information online, and in my case, I had resigned over a decade ago. Even if someone from the Thought Police were to figure out who I was, there's nothing they could do about it, since nobody can really excommunicate a non-member.
I resigned several years ago, but choose to be anonymous here for the most part. I want to maintain control over when and how those who know me, learn why I resigned (to maximize the damages to the cult). There's no reason to paint a target on your back.
I've seen a few people on here who were in my home Ward and home Stake (in another case) and in my same age group and while I was there several years ago. When you mention a town that is outside of the Mormon corridor, often that identifies your Ward. That's a long way from where I live now. I think I know who three of them are (from separate and independant different posts of theirs here several months apart from eachother), but I am not absolutely sure. I am pretty sure I recognized one of my former zone leaders from my mission from a mission shoutout here where he identified our mission and when he was there, and the fact that he is from a relatively unique part of the world, only one person from his home location in my mission that I knew about. So I know that it's likely that I know a few people on this board. Just a few weeks ago, someone identified a place they used to live that is roughly twenty miles from where I grew up (not far at all in the Mormon community outside of the mormon corridor).
I even logged in here with a different login once, to have a public conversation anonymously with someone who'se parents I knew a long time ago and to identify (by initials only) a convicted child molestor from our home ward who we both knew. We both knew this person before he was arrested and put in prison. In fact, this child molestor had been my home teaching companion, years earlier and I didn't know about that until he was arrested, more than a decade later.
A few times it's been tempting to say here "hey (initials only). It's me (initials only) from (initials only from where we knew eachother). Is that you?" But the mormon social network is extremely well connected. I must have known hundreds of people myself in the church, before I disappeared from everyone's radar except for a few close friends. Instead of six degrees of separation, it's probably more like three degrees of separation in the church. I don't care what the church thinks about me since there is nothing they can do to me. At the same time, there are people who care about me and wouldn't understand why I left the church unless I tell it to them myself.
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I have a friend who attends occasionally and has reported twice that the locals brought me up in their RS and Priesthood meetings.
Also, someone on this board used to monitor my posts and post ugly replies under my name unregistered if I was away for more than a day.
And someone visited their elderly parent and found stacks of my posts in a basement closet.
Another time someone wrote rude accusations and said they would come to my home to make me suffer. Then they posted my full name, address and other identifying details. This time admin deleted their post after a few hours.
So I suggest to anonymity to anyone who is concerned about these kinds of things. Mormons can be very vicious and nasty with anyone who isn't over the top adoring of their blessed organization. Their image and self respect are more fragile than the most fragile antique crystal. They think any slight against their church is a personal punch in the gut.
A lot of us have seen these already. If you have not, they are worth a watch and show responses by the head of TSCC's head of public relations and Jeffrey Holland to the question "What is the Strengthening the Church Members Committee?"
They illustrate very well the duplicity of the LDS church: