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Posted by: steve benson ( )
Date: April 28, 2017 12:10PM

--Introduction: Welcome to the Wacky World of Alien Fantasies

Dugway Proving Ground--located 85 miles southwest of Salt Lake City, Utah, in Tooele--is regularly referred to as the “New Area 51” by undying, undeterred and uninformed UFO fans who swear on stacks of bizarre, other-worldly conspiracy theories that the U.S. government is up to his "black ops" in development of “UFO technology” lifted from dead space aliens and their crashed flying saucers.

No, I am not joking about these jokers.

Take the case, for example, the case of UFO buff, Dr. Steven M. Greer,. He's of the oddball opinion that space aliens are poised to--if and when they so desire--completely destroy the Earth. Trouble is, except for "ufologists" in the know Americans haven't a clue out "space aliens in our midst" bedause the U.S. government is withholding details of that looming threat from outer space and, worse, can doing nothing to stop it:

“Dr. Steven M. Greer is a leading ufologist, . . . [who] says he gave up a $400,000 per year career in medicine to make contact with extraterrestrials and  expose what he found was a giant cover-up by the U.S government dating back to the late 1940s. Greer, along with his followers, believe that a UFO indeed crash-landed in 1947 in Roswell, New Mexico. Federal officers confiscated the remains of the ETs, who were still alive, as well as their flying saucer and medical scanning technology. According to Greer, the U.S secret ‘black box’ program has been working in conjunction with Lockheed Martin to reverse-engineer the alien technology.“

Now for the Earth-stopping qualifier--Greer is in this for the money:

"Greer believes that extraterrestrials are making contact with humans and have been doing so for years. . . . 'They could completely wipe our entire planet out--game, set, match, point--in a heartbeat. . . . But they choose to communicate with us peacefully.' Greer adds, 'If there is a battle it will be initiated by the secret military industrial complex. We will be the aggressors.' Greer’s Disclosure Project has now surpassed $250 K from Kickstarter funding aims to make the public aware of this massive cover-up. "Should we accept all of this?,” asks the webmaster of the site where this kookiness appears. "I’m not ready to accept all of it. Greer charges $650 to have fellow ufologists come to his farm and communicate with ETs. And he stands to greatly benefit from book sales and the potential film."

Wouldn't ya know it? There’s always a catch.

(“Dugway Myteries [sic] Revealed — The New Area 51,” by Arvid Keeson, 12 October 2012, http://utahstories.com/2012/10/dugway-myteries-revealed-the-new-area-51/)
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--Space-Cadet Thinking from the Kingdom of the Kolob Cult

Some freelancing folks passionately peddle (and do so with a completely with straight face) the distant-stars Disneyland notion that Nevada’s “Area 51” is alive and well in the kissin'-cousin form of Utah’s “New Area 52,” where uber-secret programs involving flying saucers and their alien crews proceed, even as we speak:

“Near Salt Lake City, one of, if not the most classified military base in the nation, where radiological and chemical weapons are tested routinely. Planes have been seen to disappear in the sky (phantom jets and stealth bombers) over the government land. They've been observed ‘stopping on a dime’ in mid-air, and then shooting straight up in the sky, etc.

“Area 52 [again, that would be the Dugway Proving Ground] is the go-to place from Area 51, where super-secret projects are ongoing.

”In November 2009, an unidentified ball of fire flying across North America landed in Area 52. Was this a coincidence? Or a forced crash-land for alien technology or advanced weaponry? Why Dugway? Why near Salt Lake City? Is there a reason why government officials would put such a highly secretive military base in the center of Utah? Might it be because of the devoted, patriotic worker pool available to the government from the ranks of Mormon, Inc?.”

(“Area 52 = Dugway Proving Grounds,” by RfM poster “Amyjo,” 26 April 2017, “Recovery from Mormonism” bulletion board, http://exmormon.org/phorum/read.php?2,1970231,1970231#msg-)1970231)


Such nonsense led RfM poster "Jimbo" to retort:

"Dugway is only 'Area 52' if you are a UFO-chasing nutter.In reality, it's just an U.S, Army base that has been testing chemical and biological weapons for a long time."

("Re: Area 52 = Dugway Proving Grounds," by poster "Jimbo, RfM bulletin board, 26 April 2017, http://exmormon.org/phorum/read.php?2,1970231,1970282#msg-1970282)
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--Dufus Dugway: Child of Rabid Rachel

Much of this mindle-freeze mania over alleged UFO-lifted reverse engineering supposedly being clandestinely spearheaded by the U.S. government at “Area 52’s” Dugway Proving Ground has its goofy genesis in supernatural tales swirling around the mother of all alien centers, “Area 51"--located 83 miles north-northwest of Las Vegas in the small town of Rachel, Nevada.

Here’s a sampling of the sensationalism that has seized the brains of the UFO faithful from their cranial cradles and flung them into the galaxies far, far away:

“Up until recently, we were never 100% sure about what existed in Area 51, but with the magic of Google Maps, we now know there is something behind those barbed wire fences.

"In fac[t], Area 51 Security adds to the hype as anyone coming even near the fences around this area will be apprehended by a small army of military and other government security. Obviously, with this much security in a place that is not advertised to the public means that there is probably something to hide. While much of it is government and military classified work, others suggest that there may be more. Let’s look at some more of what we do know.

“Lockheed Martin “Skunk works” is one of the lead manufacturers in Area 51 and has created many flying objects that have been mistaken for UFOs by people who live around Area 51. The SR-71, a plane that flew at the speed above Mach 3, was one of the many planes that was built and tested in Area 51 during the last 50 years.

“Also, many military aircrafts [sic] such as the F-117 Nighthawk, the first radar-evading aircraft which was made famous during Operation Desert Storm, were said to be tested and manufactured in the place known as Area 51. Despite all of these claims, many believe there are deeper darker secrets inside this secret location and many of this has to do with extra-terrestrial aircrafts [sic] and aliens. . . .

“Besides the alleged events that took place in Roswell, New Mexico, there have been many more claims of UFOs and extraterrestrial beings being taken to and biopsied at Area 51. Ever since the Roswell event in 1947, there have been numerous alleged conspiracies that have said to taken place at Area 51. Mysterious flying objects in the sky and alleged crash debris has been always tied to Area 51 by alleged theories. In 1996 the ‘New York Times’ wrote a famed article that detailed many things alleged by UFO experts and conspiracy theory experts when it comes to Area 51. . . .

“Area 51 is one of the most widely recognized secrets in the United States. While only a select few know for sure what happens in this facility, many believe that there are supernatural events and government tests that would change the way we feel about the universe. Will Area 51 conspiracy theories last forever or will the United States government eventually come clean about everything that happens behind the barbed wired fences?”

(“Area 51 Conspiracy Theories,” 25 April 2017, https://www.conspiracies.net/area-51-conspiracy-theories/); see also “UFO and Other Conspiracy Theories,” https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Area_51)


Good grief.
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--Babbling Public "Servants" Serving Up UFO Woo-Woo

Folks afflicted with a severe case of fictional flying saucer fixation don’t take kindly to having their bubble burst by facts on the ground. Take, for instance, the case of Florida state senator Greg Evers, who was recently lampooned for buffooned remarks he made about the notion of dead aliens and their spacecraft allegedly being stored in Area 51’s sprawling facilities. He declared:

"There's been talk there are aliens out there, but nobody's seen them, and the reason nobody's seen them is because the government doesn't want anybody to see them..”

To which detractors responded:

“Maybe the reason we don't see the space aliens, Sen. Evers, is because they see the attitude we have toward the human aliens in our midst. . . . [T]hat's not really a sign of a welcoming society. And if they show up and land their spacecraft right in Central Park or on the White House lawn, they would surely be illegal right? . . . Evers later said he does not believe the government is holding aliens at Area 51. So, why did he say the reason we don't know of the aliens at Area 51 is because ‘the government doesn't want anyone to see them’? Maybe because they're not there? Can't have it both ways, Sen. Evers. . . . And if they show up in Northwest Florida? Hey, let's take them to our leader.”

(“Evers on Aliens of a Different Kind,” by Tony Moon, “Pensacola News Journal,” 4 May 2016, “http://www.pnj.com/story/news/local/2016/05/04/moon-evers-aliens-different-kind/83890156/)
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--There's a Sucker Baptized Every Minute, as Mormon Church-Owned Media Sell Papers by Pitching UFO Pablum

It does nothing to advance the common good for LDS-owned and Kolob-controlled media like the "Desperate News" to fan the frenzy over outer space visitors dropping into Utah, pitching gibberish "journalism" that panders to the general scientific ignorance of its faithful members: A Mormon readership base willing to swallow the delusion that Dugway Proving Ground “proves” that intergalactic travelers from beyond our sphere has, at least to some extent, official LDS lunacy to blame as it displays itself in the pages of its priesthood press.

As the “Desperate News” reports:

“Following the public attention drawn to Area 51 in the early 1990s, UFOlogists and concerned citizens have suggested that whatever covert operations may have been underway at that location, if any, were subsequently transferred to DPG [Douglas Proving Ground].

“[We] reported that Dave Rosenfeld, president of Utah UFO Hunters, stated: ‘Numerous UFOs have been stored and reported in the area in and around Dugway . . . . [M]ilitary aircraft can't account for] all the unknowns seen in the area. It might be that our star visitors are keeping an eye on Dugway too . . . [Dugway is] the new Area 51. And probably the new military spaceport.”

(“Deseret News,’ under “UFO Speculation,” https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deseret_News; see also, “Dugway Myteries [sic] Revealed--the New Area 51,” by Arvid Keeson, 12 October 2012, http://utahstories.com/2012/10/dugway-myteries-revealed-the-new-area-51/)


The “Desperate News” shamelessly eggs on its incredulous followers, when it should be trying to actually do decent investigative reporting on things that are not bonafide bogus.

Alas, this is what we get:

“Does the Army want to . . . keep UFO-hunting groups farther away from the secretive base because they now closely watch it, suspecting that it stores and works on alien spacecraft as a 'new Area 51'? Pick . . . your own [theory] because the Army isn't going to say. Five months after being asked, the Army has officially refused to release documents explaining why and where exactly it might expand Dugway. . . .

“Meanwhile, hunters for aliens . . . said they suspect Dugway is trying to expand to keep them farther away. Several of them report seeing from afar mysterious Army convoys with trucks carrying under tarps some oval or circular objects they conjecture could be alien flying saucers. Dave Rosenfeld, president of Utah UFO Hunters, has said hunters of aliens have been watching Dugway closely. Many groups operate Web sites contending that secret work on aliens and their spacecraft that they say once occurred at Nevada's Area 51 have been transferred to Dugway."

(“Dugway Expansion a Mystery: Are Plans Due to Tainted Soil--or Maybe UFOs?,” by Lee Davidson . “Deseret Morning News,” 31 March 2005, http://www.deseretnews.com/article/600122609/Dugway-expansion-a-mystery.html)


Here's more digging for dumbness by the "Desperate News," as it shamelessly and stupidly suggests a massive UFO con-job by the nation's military:

“Alien hunters and nerve agent contamination may be prompting Dugway Proving Ground to seek to expand its size.

“Officials at the Army base are closed-mouthed about why they want to acquire a huge swath of adjacent land, mostly under control of the Bureau of Land Management. They have not even spelled out how much they want. . . .

“One motive for acquiring land may be to keep Dugway's expected anti-terrorism training secret at a time when the base is coming under telephoto scrutiny by alien hunters. Security hassles could grow as vexing for Dugway as they have been for many years at the military base at Groom Lake, Nev. Groom Lake, also called Area 51, is 90 miles north of Las Vegas. It is famous in UFO lore as supposedly housing a crashed flying saucer. UFO fanatics have brought it under intense surveillance.

“Top-secret military aircraft were developed at Groom Lake, including the U-2 and Blackbird spy planes as well as the Stealth fighter. The fact that no crashed saucers have been documented there hasn't deterred alien hunters from staking out the base with high-powered gear.

"A few years ago, a rumor circulated that secret activities at Groom Lake had been transferred to Dugway. Now alien hunting is taking place just outside the Utah base One hunter-oriented Internet site is headed ‘Dugway Proving Ground--the New Groom Lake?’ Located at www.abovetopsecret.com/pages/dugway.html, it displays an overhead view of Dugway facilities. ‘It is by far the most secretive facility in Utah as well as the most controversial,’ the caption reads. . . . Among notes about mysterious vapor trails, increased military activity and unmarked black helicopters, the Internet site states:

“’It has also been revealed that an unusual facility within Dugway may house experimental craft, possibly of alien origin. . . . (In the past) convoy trucks had been seen entering the hangar with their cargo covered by tarpaulins. One truck was seen which was carrying something oval or circular in shape and being about 30 feet wide. The truck was accompanied by five men. Could this have been a flying disc-shaped craft? Three concentric fences were later built around the hangar.’

“Dave Rosenfeld, president of Utah UFO Hunters, has an Internet page devoted to tracking strange goings-on at Dugway, including ‘alien presence.’ . . . ’Numerous UFOs have been seen and reported in the area in and around Dugway,’ Rosenfeld, who goes by the nickname ‘Alien Dave,’ said in e-mail to the ‘Deseret Morning News.’ Most of the disks, black triangles, orange spheres, flying wings and manta ray-shaped objects must be secret military aircraft, he thinks. But Rosenfeld added that military aircraft can't account for ‘all the unknowns seen in the area. It might be that our star visitors are keeping an eye on Dugway too!’ He considers Dugway ‘the new area 51. And probably the new military spaceport.’ Responding to a question, he wrote, ‘Yes, we have been watching Dugway and the UTTR (the Air Force's Utah Test and Training Range), we have seen some very interesting things out there.’ . . .

"People go onto the property frequently, with easy access from the Pony Express Road. . . . [S]uch a vantage point may be fine for seeking aliens.”

(“Is Dugway's Expansion an Alien Concept?,” by Joe Bauman, “Deseret Morning News,” 4 November 2004, http://www.deseretnews.com/article/595102911/Is-Dugways-expansion-an-alien-concept.html)

And the "Desperate News" wonders why it's doing so poorly.
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--Giddy UFO Groupies Could Use Some Get-Real Grown-Up Grounding

“Popular Mechanics” magazine points out the inconvenient terra firma facts regarding the actual activities at Area 51 (and by extension, at Area 52):

“What exactly goes on inside of Area 51 has led to decades of wild speculation. There are, of course, the alien conspiracies that galactic visitors are tucked away somewhere inside. One of the more colorful rumors insists the infamous 1947 Roswell crash was actually a Soviet aircraft piloted by mutated midgets and the wreckage remains on the grounds of Area 51.

“Some even believe that the U.S. government filmed the 1969 moon landing in one of the base's hangars.

“For all the myths and legends, what's true is that Area 51 is real and still very active. There may not be aliens or a moon landing movie set inside those fences, but something is going on and only a select few are privy to what's happening further down that closely-monitored wind-swept Nevada road. ‘The forbidden aspect of Area 51 is what makes people want to know what's there,’ says aerospace historian and author Peter Merlin who's been researching Area 51 for more than three decades. And there sure is still a lot going on there.’


“The Origins of a Mystery

“The beginning of Area 51 is directly related to the development of the U-2 reconnaissance aircraft. After World War II, the Soviet Union lowered the Iron Curtain around themselves and the rest of the Eastern bloc, creating a near intelligence blackout to the rest of the world. When the Soviets backed North Korea's invasion of South Korea in June 1950, it became increasingly clear that the Kremlin would aggressively expand its influence. America worried about the USSR's technology, intentions, and ability to launch a surprise attack—only a decade removed from the Japanese attack on Pearl Harbor.

“In the early 1950s, U.S. Navy and Air Force sent low-flying aircraft on reconnaissance missions over the USSR, but they were at constant risk of being shot down. In November 1954, President Eisenhower approved the secret development of a high-altitude reconnaissance aircraft called the U-2 program. One of the first orders of business was to track down a remote, covert location for training and testing. They found it in the southern Nevada desert near a salt flat known as Groom Lake, which had once been a World War II aerial gunnery range for Army Air Corps pilots.

“Known by its map designation as Area 51, this middle-of-nowhere site became a new top-secret military base. To convince workers to come, Kelly Johnson, one of the leading engineers of the U-2 project, gave it a more enticing name: Paradise Ranch.


“Making a Myth

“U-2 testing began in July 1955, and immediately reports came flooding in about unidentified flying object sightings. If you read the details in a 1992 CIA report that was declassified with redactions in 1998 (and subsequently released nearly in full in 2013), it's easy to see why.

“Many of these sightings were observed by commercial airline pilots who had never seen an aircraft fly at such high altitudes as the U-2. Whereas today's airliners can soar as high as 45,000 feet, in the mid-1950s airlines flew at altitudes between 10,000 and 20,000 feet. Known military aircraft could get to 40,000 feet, and some believed manned flight couldn't go any higher than that. The U-2, flying at altitudes in excess of 60,000 feet, would've looked completely alien.

“Naturally, Air Force officials knew the majority of these unexplained sightings were U-2 tests, but they were not allowed to reveal these details to the public. So, ‘natural phenomena’ or ‘high-altitude weather research’ became go-to explanations for UFO sightings, including in 1960 when Gary Powers' U-2 was shot down over Russia.

“What's also interesting about the most recent 2013 report is that it confirms Area 51's existence. While the 1998 version does have significant redactions when referencing the name and location of the U-2 test site, the nearly un-redacted version from 2013 reveals much more, including multiple references to Area 51, Groom Lake, and even a map of the area.

“U-2 operations halted in the late 1950s, but other top secret military aircrafts continued tests at Area 51. Over the years, the A-12 and numerous stealth aircrafts like Bird of Prey, F-117A, and TACIT BLUE have all been developed and tested in the Nevada desert. More declassified documents reveal Area 51's role in "Project Have Doughnut," a 1970s attempt to study covertly obtained Soviet MiGs.

"They flew them [over Area 51]and pitted our own fighters against them to develop tactics," says Merlin, "They learned that you can't out-turn it, but you can outrun it. And it's still going on today. . . . Now, instead of seeing MiG-17s and 21s, there's MiG-29s and SU-27s."

“Even so, the alien conspiracies gained ground in 1989 when Bob Lazar claimed in an interview on Las Vegas local news that he'd seen aliens and had helped to reverse-engineer alien spacecrafts while working at the base. Many have disregarded this as fiction and are even offended at the notion, including Merlin, who has spent years talking with former Area 51 engineers and employees angered by all the fuss about E.T.

"‘Some are even mad because they worked on these things and built these amazing planes,’ Merlin says. ‘This is Earth technology. You got folks claiming it's extraterrestrial when it's really good old American know-how.’

“Today, Area 51 is still very much in use. According to Google Earth, new construction and expansions are continuously happening. On most early mornings, eagle-eyed visitors can spot strange lights in the sky moving up and down. No, it's not a UFO. It's actually the semi-secret contract commuter airline using the call-sign "Janet" that transports workers from Las Vegas's McCarran Airport to the base.

“As for what's happening these days in America's most secretive military base, few know for sure. Merlin has some educated guesses, including improved stealth technology, advanced weapons, electronic warfare systems and, in particular, unmanned aerial vehicles. Chris Pocock, noted U-2 historian and author of several books about the matter, told ‘Popular Mechanics’ he thinks classified aircraft, more exotic forms of radio communication, directed energy weapons, and lasers are currently under development at the base.

“While the lore around Area 51 may be nothing more than imaginative fiction, that won't stop people from gawking just beyond those chain link fences. ‘At the most basic level, anytime you have something secret or forbidden, it's human nature,’ says Merlin. ‘You want to find out what it is.’

“Fact or fiction, aliens are a big tourism draw. In 1996, the state of Nevada renamed’ Route 375 as the ‘Extraterrestrial Highway,’ and destinations such as the ‘Alien Research Center’ and the Little A'Le'Inn’ (in the town of Rachel with a population around 54) dot the road.

“To Area 51's west, there's the Alien Cathouse’ which is advertised as the only alien-themed brothel in the world. ‘Geocaching’ also attracts visitors here since the highway is considered a ‘mega-trial’ with over 2,000 geocaches hidden in the area.

“Then there's the actual base. While getting inside is not in the cards for most, curious civilians can actually drive up to front and back gates. Locals will direct you, and the website ‘Dreamland Resort’ is a great resource full of maps, driving directions, and first-hand accounts.

“However, one should be careful when planning a trek to Area 51 . . . [R]emember the government doesn't really want you peering into Area 51. Both Merlin and Pocock confirmed that they have been closely observed or even intimidated by guards and security (including an F-16 fly-by). Do not trespass under any circumstances or arrests and heavy fines await you.”

(“The Real Story Behind the Myth of Area 51: There are no aliens at American’s mot famous top-secxret military base, but what is there is ,” just as interesting,” by Matt Blitz, 8 December 2016, http://www.popularmechanics.com/military/research/a24152/area-51-history/)
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--Deadpan for Dummies: A Message to Earthlings from the Alien Invaders of Dugway

In an attempt to bring bumpkin believers in the pseudo-science of alien space travel into a slow-descent into Earth orbit, spoofers of UFO junkie-ism have painted a cosmically comical picture of the Dugway Proving Ground, as it is described by the fictional “”Colonel Crush Egghead, Commander of the Fifth Reinforcement Squadron of Planet Squeedo Space Militia, located in the fourth spoke of an irregularly shaped star formation called the Whoopee Cushion":

“Greetings, Earthlings--

“I am here on your planet, assigned to conduct an on-going reconnaissance and diplomatic mission. The objective is to gather as much information as we can about what happened to a missing squadron of explorer/scientists sent here back in what would have been your 1950's then to continue their work. Their mission was to make contact with the humanoid population of the planet in hopes of drafting a peaceful immigration policy that would allow our people to settle and co-exist with the native species.

“Our desire to settle on another planet was the result of overcrowding. We have advanced medicine and DNA engineering which allow us to live longer and virtually disease-free. While generally a good thing, it also removes the frequency of death, a natural population control. Hence, within a mere half-millennia, we found ourselves literally outgrowing our planet. We were forced to start looking for a new home. . . .

“Admittedly, we made some mistakes along the way. We were airmen, after all, not spies. We had been trained in military tactics, not espionage. Although we did our best, face it, We goofed up once or twice, made a couple of accidental, inadvertent blunders. . . . As a result of our ineptitude, a rash of science fiction novels, movies and alien watchdog groups emerged across the country like wasps shooting out of a nest that had been whacked with a stick. The whole country turned paranoid! Humans started accusing us of doing unthinkable things: abductions and experiments. It was all lies. The truth was we just got caught stealing Twinkies out of a grocery story or accidentally discharging a laser gun in public, things like that. Perfectly harmless. Nevertheless, everyone on the streets seemed to be on the look-out for us. Made it downright difficult to do our job.

“Still, we persisted. After infiltrating our way into government and military agencies, and digging through all sorts of classified stories and reports for years, we weren't much further along in our investigation than when we started. That's when we got lucky. Someone in the government finally decided to take all the alien hype seriously and organized a secret, ‘unofficial’ investigation. Unknowingly, [they] started helping us discover the truth about really happened at Area 51. What we learned with their unwitting assistance was this:

“Back in 1953, the U.S. military had, indeed, shot down two alien spacecraft. The wreckage and crew had been immediately transported to a nearby clandestine facility to be studied in secret, far from the public eye. When found, several of our crewmen were alive! Unfortunately, the paperwork of what happened to the survivors, the crew members killed by the crash, or the Calypso and orbiter, had all been destroyed. We were at a dead end again. What a frustrating, dismal end to years of painstaking effort! But then, a miracle happened. Through sheer luck, we got another lead.

“One of our team had buddied up to a military officer in Nevada. One night, while off duty and camping in the desert, the officer lulled by the beauty of the stars began talking about ‘life out there”.’ He knew there was life out there. Everything those tin foil hat people said was true. He told how the military had gotten fed up battling with all the publicity and moved the entire operation from Area 51 to a new location in Dugway, Utah. To scare off any snoopers or media, they set-up the base as a testing facility for biological warfare. It was naught but a clever smokescreen to cover up what really went on there---a continuation of research into our crew, the technology of our spacecraft, and US.

“And so, in spite of all attempts to thwart our investigation, we knew the truth: of course, 'aliens' HAD landed on Earth and the proof of that is now being kept in a new facility in Dugway, Utah called ‘Area 52.’

"So there, you have it. The truth has finally been revealed! . . .

“We stay near Dugway in hopes of recovering our crew and ships. It's hidden in an abandoned gravel pit. We don't want to set all the brush on fire if we have to light the engines, you know. There's some strategically placed clutter to hide the ship. It should be easy for a cacher to find.  You can drive to within 100 feet, even if your vehicle does not have hover or 4x4 capability. Just hang a hard left as soon as you cross the cattle guard after passing the gate to Area 52. You'll see the old road to the gravel pit, even if it's a bit overgrown.

“My team and I will be a bit harder to find; actually, we’ll be watching. When it’s clear that you . . . mean no harm, we will reveal ourselves. Unless, of course, we ran to grab a quick burger. My executive officer has assimilated quite well as a Utahan and developed an addiction to fry sauce. It's a long way to a burger joint from our ship. If we miss you, leave a message in the ship's log.  In case we're not there, you'll need the entry code for the ship.  It's just 'ABCD,' but you'll have to prove yourself a cacher and fill in those letters.”

(“Utah GeoTour: Tooele, ‘We Come in Peace,” cache by madambutterfly1822, railroader921, Ritycan.
https://www.geocaching.com/geocache/GC6Q04A_utah-geotour-tooele-we-come-in-peace?guid=c7e1fc87-41ea-4f74-b3f6-22c4693af770)
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--Conclusion: Helping Unicorny "Ufologists" Come Down to Earth by Recounting Experiences of Those Who Have Actually Worked at Area 51

"Popular Mechanics" magazine has done its best to wring the other-worldly wackps from their ridiculous religion of ufology mythology> How so? By interviewing former workers at Area 51. What a concept:

"After nearly five decades, guys like James Noce finally get to tell their stories about Area 51. Yes, that Area 51. The one that gets brought up when people talk about secret Air Force projects, crashed UFOs, alien bodies and, of course, conspiracies.

"The secrets, some of them, have been declassified.

"Noce, 72, and his fellow Area 51 veterans around the country now are free to talk about doing contract work for the CIA in the 1960s and '70s at the arid, isolated Southern Nevada government testing site. Their stories shed some light on a site shrouded in mystery; classified projects still are going on there. It's not a big leap from warding off the curious 40 or 50 years ago, to warding off the curious who now make the drive to Area 51. The veterans' stories provide a glimpse of real-life government covert operations, with their everyday routines and moments of excitement.

"Noce didn't seek out publicity. But when contacted, he was glad to "tell what it was like. 'I was sworn to secrecy for 47 years. I couldn't talk about it,' he says.

"In the 1960s, Area 51 was the test site for the A-12 and its successor, the SR-71 Blackbird, a secret spy plane that broke records at documented speeds that still have been unmatched. The CIA says it reached Mach 3.29 (about 2,200 mph) at 90,000 feet.

"But after September 2007, when the CIA displayed an A-12 in front of its Langley, Va., headquarters as part of the agency's 60th birthday, much of the secrecy of those days at Area 51 fell away.

"ADVANCE WARNING TO UFOLOGISTS: Sorry, although Noce and other Area 51 vets say they saw plenty of secret stuff, none make claims about aliens.

"But on to the secrecy part.

"Noce remembers always getting paid in cash, signing a phony name to the receipt, during his several years of working security at the site. It was, in CIA parlance, 'a black project.' Noce says he has no paperwork showing that he worked at Area 51 for the CIA. He says that was common. Others who got checks say they came from various companies, including Pan American World Airways.

"But Noce is vouched for by T.D. Barnes, of Henderson, Nev., founder and president of Roadrunners Internationale, membership 325. Barnes is the one who says he got checks from Pan Am, for whom he had never worked. Roadrunners is a group of Area 51 vets including individuals affiliated with the Air Force, CIA, Lockheed, Honeywell and other contractors. . . .

"As age creeps up on them, Barnes, 72, an Area 51 radar specialist, wants the work the vets did to be remembered. And Barnes himself has someone quite credible to vouch for him: David Robarge, chief historian for the CIA and author of 'Archangel: CIA's Supersonic A-12 Reconnaissance Aircraft.' Robarge says about Barnes, 'He's very knowledgeable. He never embellishes.'

"Barnes says that the way membership in the Roadrunners grew was by one guy who worked for the CIA telling about another buddy who worked at Area 51, and so on. Barnes says other Area 51 vets vouched for Noce. . . .

"Sometime in late 1961, Noce got a phone call at the grocery store. It was from a buddy of his from the Air Force days, who now worked for the CIA. 'He knew I had classified clearance from working at the radar sites,' remembers Noce. 'He asked me how would I like to live in Las Vegas.' Noce agreed to drive to Las Vegas and call 'a guy' who worked for 'the Agency.'

"And so Noce began doing security.

"Most of the time, it was routine stuff. On Monday mornings, a Lockheed Superconstellation would fly in from the 'Skunk Works' in Burbank, Calif., bringing engineers and others who were working on the A-12. They'd stay there during the week and return home on weekends. 'Skunk Works' was the nickname for Lockheed's Advanced Development Projects, which had the A-12 contract.

"The routine stuff included checking badges and making sure nobody had weapons or cameras. Security workers also made sure only those with proper clearance would witness a test flight.

"And what a sight it was. According to the CIA, its late former chief Richard Helms recalled visiting Area 51 and watching a midnight test flight of an A-12.

"'The blast of flame that sent the black, insect-shaped projectile hurtling across the tarmac made me duck instinctively. It was as if the devil himself were blasting his way straight from hell,' said Helms, according to former CIA Director Gen. Michael Hayden.

"Other times, the routine got very exciting. Noce remembers when 'Article 123,' as one of the A-12s was called, crashed on May 24, 1963, after the plane stalled near Wendover, Utah. The pilot ejected and survived. Noce says he was among those who flew to the crash site in a giant cargo plane loaded with several trucks. They loaded everything from the crash into the trucks. He remembers that a local deputy had either witnessed the crash or had quickly arrived at the scene. There also was a family on a vacation car trip who had taken photos. 'We confiscated the camera, took the film out,' says Noce. 'We just said we worked for the government.'

"He says the deputy and the family were told not to talk to anybody about the crash, especially the press. 'We told them there would be dire consequences,' Noce says. 'You scared them.'

"As an added incentive, he says, the CIA arrived with a briefcase full of cash. 'I think it was like 25 grand apiece, for the sheriff and the family,' says Noce. Robarge says of cash payments to cover things up, 'It was common practice.'

"Noce also remembers providing security in 1962 as a disassembled A-12 was trucked along back roads from Burbank to Area 51. At one point, a Greyhound bus traveling in the opposite direction grazed one of the trailers. Wrote Robarge, 'Project managers quickly authorized the payment of nearly $5,000 for damage to the bus so no insurance or legal inquiry would take place . . . '


"ABOUT THE ALIENS

"Noce and Barnes say they never saw anything connected to UFOs.

"Barnes believes the Air Force and the 'Agency' didn't mind the stories about alien spacecraft. They helped cover up the secret planes that were being tested. . . .

"Noce has two pieces of proof from his Area 51 days: faded black-and-white snapshots taken surreptitiously. One shows him in 1962 in front of his housing unit at Area 51. The other shows him in front of what he says is one of two F-105 Thunderchiefs whose Air Force pilots overflew Area 51 out of curiosity. The pilots were forced to land and were told that a no-fly zone meant just that.

"Noce worked at Area 51 from early 1962 to late 1965. He returned to Vancouver and spent most of his working life as a longshoreman. Noce remembers once in recent years talking with fellow retired longshoreman pals and telling them stories about Area 51. When they didn't believe him, he says, 'Well, there was nothing I could do to prove anything.' . . .

"Mary Pelevsky, a University of Nevada visiting scholar, headed the school's Nevada Test Site Oral History Project from 2003 to 2008. Some 150 people were interviewed about their experiences during Cold War nuclear testing. Area 51 vets such as Barnes also were interviewed. The historian says it was difficult to verify stories because of secrecy at the time, cover stories, memory lapses and--sometimes--misrepresentations. But, she says, 'I've heard this cloak-and-dagger stuff, and you say, "No way." Then you hear enough and begin to realize some of these stories are true.' . . .

"'I was doing something for the country,' Noce says about those three years in the 1960s. 'They told me, "If anything should ever come up, anyone asks, 'Did you work for the CIA?: say, "Never heard of them." But [my buddies] know.'"

("Area 51 Vets Break Silence: Sorry, but No Space Aliens or UFOs: Newly revealed stories from people who used to work at Area 51 shed light on a site still shrouded in mystery," by Erik Lacitis, "Seattle Times," 27 March 2010, emphasis added, http://www.seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/localnews/2011461015_area51vets28m.html)

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Posted by: Dave the Atheist ( )
Date: April 29, 2017 08:40AM

Dr. Steven M. Greer ... Dr. Ben Carson. Good grief. These fools give a bad name to the profession. They make doctors look like idiots.

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Posted by: hypnosnli ( )
Date: April 29, 2017 10:41AM

Dr Russell M Nelson

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Posted by: Shummy ( )
Date: April 29, 2017 11:07AM

Dr Who, the woo woo's favorite woo woo.

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Posted by: Stray Mutt ( )
Date: April 29, 2017 11:45AM

I think it was Mark Twain who said that two people could keep a secret if one of them was dead. Yet there are millions of people believing all sorts of elaborate, far-reaching conspiracies -- conspiracies for which there have never been any whistleblowers with boxes of documentation. No Chelsea Mannings, Edward Snowdens or Joseph Valachis.

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Posted by: Aliens Beware Humans ( )
Date: April 29, 2017 12:21PM

I have to go for the simplest explanation:

If there were really aliens capable of travelling light years who wanted to destroy Earth and/or Earthlings, we wouldn't be here to talk about it.

Oh, and those same aliens - would they really lose members and spacecraft to the mighty humans, or be so inept as to require decades (some would claim millennia) of probing study to discover and describe our biological funtions, or, require our medical assistance?

Would they be so in need of our military hawks as to support US world domination?

As with God, non-believers can't prove a negative, and fear sells.

And completely O/T here:

So, why three years to Mars? It's the deadline of the first term.

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Posted by: Stray Mutt ( )
Date: April 29, 2017 11:04PM

I'm more likely to believe the Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy scenario where the aliens arrive to destroy Earth to clear way for a hyperspace bypass.

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Posted by: Babyloncansuckit ( )
Date: April 29, 2017 12:43PM

Oh sure, and I suppose there were no golden plates. Angels are even more tricky than aliens.

I hope the gummint releases selfies of Prez Trump with gray aliens. Who knows what they're hiding?

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