The story of Adam and Eve and the Garden of Eden is, of course, a parable. However, like most parable, it is based upon real people and historical events. The story if based upon Pharaoh Aye son of Yuya, who was a pharaoh for four years about 1350 B.C.. He dwelt in a walled royal Garden called the Garden of Meru-Aten, which was built by Pharaoh Akhenaten, just south of the City of Aten, in what is now Amarna, Egypt. Meru-Aten was a typical royal Garden. It contained:

*A small zoo
*A Tree of the Knowledge of Good and Evil (a thorn-apple bush...the fruit of which was forbidden to all but priests...it caused hallucinations)
*A Tree of Life (a fig tree...considered sacred)
*A royal residence
*An large evaporation pond
*Fruit trees of all kinds

The "serpent" that whispered to Eve (princess Khiyah), was not a talking snake, but the Cobra Crown, which only the king and queen of Egypt wore: symbolic of the "Wisdom of the Gods". The Cobra was worn over the Third Eye. Eve (Khiyah) had been queen under her husband-half-brother Tutenkhamun, but he died young. She wrote to the king of the Hittites to send a Prince, but he died on the way. The only male of the Royal House "left" alive with Aye, her own grand-father, the father of Nefertiti, and the uncle of Akhenaten (Amenhotep IV). Aye was the Prophet of Aten, and converted Akhanaten to the worship of Aten.

The "sin" of Aye and Khiyah was not biting into a fig, but rather it was forbidden sex. Khiyah desired to become queen again, and where the cobra crown (serpent crown), but to do that she had to marry Aye. The "serpent" (crown) tempted Khiyah, so Khiyah "tempted" Aye with her "forbidden fruit". And, of course, it worked.

A tomb was built for Aye, but never filled. Horemheb, the commander of the chariots, had Aye and Khiyah cast out into the desert, where they died. He became Pharaoh.

The foundation of the Garden of Maru-Aten still exists, and thousands of tourists a year visit it, in Amarna, Egypt.

Where did I get this information?

From a Lebanese prophet and miracle-worker.

Questionsforexmos Wrote:
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> Where did I get this information?
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> From a Lebanese prophet and miracle-worker.

Ah, that explains why it has zero supporting evidence and is completely implausible.

Here's what is actually known (as opposed to made-up) about Meru-Aten:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maru-Aten

It's on the web:

From http://www.da heshism.webs.com/
(leave out the space - the word is banned on this website)

The Garden of Eden story is based upon the true historical story of Pharaoh Ay and Queen Khiyah, who dwelt in a walled garden called "Maru-Aten" about 1350 B.C. in what is now Tel Amarna, Egypt. The walled garden included fruit trees of many kinds, evaporation ponds, and a small zoo.

Adam (Adapa of Eridu) was not the first "man" on Earth, but the first Man with a God-breathed Soul. The descendants of Adapa were called the "Adamu" by the Akkadians. The Adamu spread their DNA throughout the world, and this is still happening today. The Soul that dwelt in Adapa of Eridu later dwelt in Melchizedek king of Salem, and later as Ay son of Yahyu, who became an Egyptian pharaoh. He was the uncle of Pharaoh Ankhenaten and the father of Nefertiti. Ankhenaten built the City of Aten, and below it the garden of Aten which he called "Meriaten".

(from the site Richard linked):

"Doctor D**esh (1909~1984) was the most prolific worker of supernatural miracles of all time. Hundreds of people are still alive today who witnessed some of them, acts which no magician would be able to perform."

Oh, wow, I'm convinced. Where do I sign up? :(

Hieroglyphics or it didn't happen.

:-) :-) :-) :-) :-)

Well la te da! So what? Now what?

Is this that guy who's trying to start his own religion...and has stalked Taylor Swift? If yes, he's posted here before under a different name.

David J. Stewart? He was also convicted of sex with a minor, don't forget. But yeah, this is starting to sound like the kooky stuff posted on fstdt.

No, it was another kook. I can't be bothered to look up the screen name for the guy I'm thinking of.

Jamshid Rohani

I had a bit of time and found his name at the other place. He was using his real name as his screen name and had a website for his religion.

"Jamshid Rohani taught that there is only One Religion of God, the Good Religion, and that all the major religions today are just “orders” of the Good Religion. He taught that the Supreme Being is Ahura Mazda, the Only Wise Lord. He taught that the Zoroastrian religion had been corrupted over thousands of years by uninspired high priests, and he sought to restore the Good Religion back to its original purity; a religion without required rites, compulsory rituals..."

https://bahaisects.wordpress.com/2016/01/27/jamshid-rohani-born-in-bahai-family-but-not-a-bahai-a-brief-history/

ETA: This thread? http://exmormon.org/phorum/read.php?2,1368745,1368857

Hmmmm.....



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Y'all should check this out too:
I can't post the site because the name is banned.
An excerpt from the top site on google.

"ADAM AND EVE: Mormonism teaches that Adam and Eve were the first human beings, and that they dwelt in Jackson County Missouri, and were the parents of all humans. D***** teaches that Adam was not the first human being, but Adam was Adapa, the priest of Eridu in Sumeria. He fell from a Heavenly planet to this planet. He lived for 930 Moons and had sons and daughters. He reincarnated as Ahyeh, king of Egypt, who married Khiyah, his grand-daughter, because she was “tempted” by the Cobra-crown, the symbol of the Wisdom of the Gods by which the Pharaohs ruled. Khiyah tempted Ahyeh with her “forbidden fruit” and her partook, which caused his own soul and the souls of all his descendants to “fall”. Adam had to return to this world as Jesus to “atone” for that “fall” which caused spiritual death in the Spirit-World. The Hebrew word for “rib” (tsela) can also mean “penis”. This is the meaning that Khiyah came from a “rib” of Adam: meaning she was one of his “seed” (descendants). Ahyeh and Khiyah dwelt in the "Garden of Aten" which was a temple-garden complex (with canals and fruit trees of all kinds) on the Nile in what is now Tel Amarna, Egypt. After their deaths, the temple-garden complex with destroyed by the priests of the pagan Egyptian gods who halted the worship of Aten."

Wikipedia has articles on Meru-aten and Queen Kiya. Neither relates them to the Garden of Eden legend.



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Lebanese prophecy is bargain rate, no doubt. Throw a few piastres in the tin cup and get your fortune. Televangelist prophecy will cost you the price of a Jack Van Impe DVD, twenty-five bucks. Still not too bad. But for Mormon prophecy, they really gouge you. A flat tax and no Sundays off. That might be okay, if they gave you something better than what the Lebanese guy is selling. They don't.

For some reason I can never think of Adam and Eve without picturing Sonny and Cher.

I probably shouldn't have hit the vodka so hard, back in the '80s.

The question is: Was Hercules a total myth, or was it "based" upon a very strong man, who lived a long time ago?

Probably...based upon a true story, that changed over time. "Robin Hood" is based upon a real man, or several real men. NOT to say that everything in the story really happened.

Was the Illiad of Homer "pure myth"? Scholars thought so, for centuries. It was made out of whole cloth. But...then they found the City of Troy, right where it was supposed to be.

So, YES, the Adam and Eve story is not made out of whole cloth. It is "based" upon real people, real events, but written as a parable, a story, a Midrash.

Bible scholars believe that Jesus' parables were all based upon real events, such as the Rich Man and Lazarus, which is based upon a much older Egyptian version.

The "Garden of Meru-Aten" had a sacred fig tree, a Tree of the Knowledge of Good and Evil (thorn-apple bush), a small zoo, fruit trees of all kinds, etc. There was really a Pharaoh named Aye, and really a queen named Khiyah. They were real people, flesh and blood, who really lived in a walled garden. They were really cast out of it.

The question is: Was Hercules a total myth, or was it "based" upon a very strong man, who lived a long time ago?

Probably...based upon a true story, that changed over time. "Robin Hood" is based upon a real man, or several real men. NOT to say that everything in the story really happened.

Was the Illiad of Homer "pure myth"? Scholars thought so, for centuries. It was made out of whole cloth. But...then they found the City of Troy, right where it was supposed to be.

So, YES, the Adam and Eve story is not made out of whole cloth. It is "based" upon real people, real events, but written as a parable, a story, a Midrash.

Bible scholars believe that Jesus' parables were all based upon real events, such as the Rich Man and Lazarus, which is based upon a much older Egyptian version.

The "Garden of Meru-Aten" had a sacred fig tree, a Tree of the Knowledge of Good and Evil (thorn-apple bush), a small zoo, fruit trees of all kinds, etc. There was really a Pharaoh named Aye, and really a queen named Khiyah. They were real people, flesh and blood, who really lived in a walled garden. They were really cast out of it.