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Posted by: Heretic 2 ( )
Date: February 10, 2017 04:29PM

I see a lot of threads here about the church's puritanical views on "modesty." Most of them are about porn shoulders, concealing garments, and silly things like banning flip flops and multiple piercings in a single ear.

Where I live in Arizona, this winter I have have noticed that leggings as pants are all the rage. It seems like half the women and girls wear them each day. And they do not wear them with a dress, skirt, long shirt, or long jacket.

Has the church officially taken a position on this? Like a mention in a conference talk, an Ensign article, a lesson manual, or a For the Strength of the Youth pamphlet? It seems like I have heard that BYU has or had a policy that tried to suppress this fashion trend.

I would imagine that the old men in the First Presidency and Quorum of the Twelve would view leggings as pants as being more erotic and worthy of a crackdown than porn shoulders or flip flops.

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Posted by: bluebutterfly ( )
Date: February 10, 2017 04:41PM

No idea of any official stance on it, but I always laugh on the inside when I can easily spot a Mormon woman because she is wearing tight leggings and I can clearly see the garment line.

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Posted by: a new name ( )
Date: February 10, 2017 04:56PM

The "Church" (i.e. the COB) will not take a stand. They will let individual bishops and SPs make those calls. That way when some SP goes off the rails and bands all women with leggings from entering the chapel, and it makes the local or national news, they can say it is not a rule and they can throw said SP under the bus. Works every time!

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Posted by: Gentle Gentile ( )
Date: February 10, 2017 04:58PM

Leggings fall under the category of "no tight clothing," so Mormons shouldn't be wearing them. Related to that, BYU had a kerfuffle over skinny jeans in about 2012. You can Google for details.

And what was the reason given for banning flip flops? I'm sure it's a good one. /s

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Posted by: HikergrlAz ( )
Date: February 10, 2017 06:08PM

They emphasize toe cleavage!

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Posted by: adoylelb ( )
Date: February 10, 2017 05:15PM

There's a MLM company Lu La Roe that sells leggings, and many Mormon women are involved with that as it allows them to earn a little extra money from home, often through social media and those sales "parties."

I'm guessing this is one of the reasons why the corporation won't come out against leggings as pants, as they'd lose tithing revenue from those Mormon women.



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 02/10/2017 05:16PM by adoylelb.

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Posted by: pickleweed ( )
Date: February 11, 2017 07:39AM

Lularoe is EVERYWHERE in the military community. I'm so glad I have a real job and don't have to resort to MLM crap. I hate being spammed with party invites and told that I can make money when my husband keeps moving me to different countries. I want to scream at them that their diet drinks and leggings are crap and that they should learn a real skill like programming or data input or a second/third language and work online. Ggggrrrrrr. Rant over.

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Posted by: summer ( )
Date: February 11, 2017 08:56AM

It's everywhere among school personnel as well. I went to one of the parties (held at my school's library after hours) to appease a colleague. I can't comment on the solid color leggings as I was not in a mood to try them on. But the patterns on other leggings and on the clothing were IMO for the most part garish and juvenile. I found one blouse with a pattern I did like, but it only came in a medium and I wear a small. I found out later that is typical for LLR. The company sends a weird assortment of sizes and patterns, and if you don't find what you want, you are supposed to go on a hunt for it elsewhere. That is not how I want to shop.

The founder of LLR is a Mormon woman.

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Posted by: Chicken N. Backpacks ( )
Date: February 10, 2017 06:19PM

"... Quorum of the Twelve would view leggings as pants as being more erotic and worthy of a crackdown than porn shoulders or flip flops."

"crackdown" hee-hee


And that's why I'm not a mormon...

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Posted by: pugs ( )
Date: February 11, 2017 06:31AM

Chicken N. Backpacks Wrote:
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> "... Quorum of the Twelve would view leggings as
> pants as being more erotic and worthy of a
> crackdown than porn shoulders or flip flops."
>
> "crackdown" hee-hee
>
>
> And that's why I'm not a mormon...


And when one strings it all together, you have...

http://exmormon.org/phorum/read.php?2,1934089

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Posted by: beyondashadow ( )
Date: February 10, 2017 10:09PM

The Brethren should leave the women and girls alone ... and handcuff all Mormon males.

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Posted by: GNPE1 ( )
Date: February 10, 2017 10:34PM

Tight Fit Is Also Immodest

Many people think immodest dress relates only to an insufficiently covered body. But a tight fit is also immodest, even when the body is fully covered. This applies to men as well as women. Many do not realize that tight clothing draws attention to the anatomy, which distracts from the purpose of education, business, leadership, or worship. Adequate ease in the fit of our clothes allows the viewer’s attention to go to the other person’s face for more effective communication.


https://www.lds.org/youth/article/modesty-matters?lang=eng

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Posted by: Leaving ( )
Date: February 11, 2017 01:34PM

"Many do not realize that tight clothing draws attention to the anatomy"

Only the naive do not realize that tight clothing draws attention to the anatomy.

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Posted by: caffiend ( )
Date: February 10, 2017 10:40PM


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Posted by: nomonomo ( )
Date: February 10, 2017 10:44PM

I thought there'd been an edict about printed leggings not being allowed. Was that just a local thing somewhere?

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Posted by: caffiend ( )
Date: February 10, 2017 10:50PM

Solid-color legging and yoga pants are more revealing of a lady's curves than patterned ones. Women know certain patterns and lines better obscure certain lines they don't want emphasized.

The problem here is legalism: letter or spirit of the law? Wear certain things, and a woman is saying, "Hey--look at me sexually!"* Just this afternoon at checkout in the supermarket, I stood behind a young woman who was wearing the opaque equivalent of pantyhose.

*Please don't think I'm saying that men now have rights or privileges to act on that.

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Posted by: Amyjo ( )
Date: February 10, 2017 10:58PM

In the north country where I reside, leggings are a staple of any woman's wardrobe.

Whether worn as an undergarment or as pants, it isn't seen as irregular at all. They're considered normal attire.

The church needs to get out of the business of being clothing police.

Do they still mandate women wear only dresses and skirts to meetings? That dress code is archaic!

what I don't like to see is people out in public wearing their pajama bottoms. Male or female, that just looks really tacky to me! It looks like they rolled out of bed and were too lazy to get dressed lol.

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Posted by: theunmormon ( )
Date: February 11, 2017 03:41AM

My niece told me that leggings are not allowed at BYU, but whenever I drive by BYU all the women are wearing them.

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Posted by: Maura ( )
Date: February 11, 2017 03:55AM

My sister's ward banned leggings over a year ago. My sister was upset because her daughter's would wear them und sports shorts for practices...and not even that was allowed. Also my sister liked to wear them with drapey blouses, sweaters, skirts and boots. I am not sure where the "ban" stands over a year later, but it was the first time my sister was visibly frustrated with the leaders in her ward.

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Posted by: tnurg ( )
Date: February 11, 2017 08:20AM

And yes, the mormon clowns of false religion march on! How can anyone possibly take these rude/painfully obnoxious, God CON criminals seriously? Haven't the little people in the kingdom of absurdity/lies had enough yet? How much abuse are they willing to take?

The geriatric, detached from reality, mormon authority creeps of false religion/their complicit stooges have shown their stripes over/over again! Tell me - would God actually be this petty/small minded by prioritizing the evils of leggings, flip flops, bare shoulders, lipstick, makeup in general, tight fitting clothing, shorts, tank tops, push up bras compounded by the evil, gaudy display of more than one ear ring and on/on the insanity goes while starvation, genocide/out of control refugee problems plague our planet! Grossly incompetent, self-proclaimed profits of mormonism should immediately turn in their profit badges!

In particular, oppressed, mormon women should stand up/assert themselves/tell these pyramid scheme criminals promoting the smith family CON where to stuff it! Misogyny is unbecoming/ ungodly! When these abusers know you have their number, they won't come calling! Why - they're cowards?! From time to time I do occasionally wonder if I'll get a visit from one of the promoters with an agenda but alas - no cigar! As Always, tnurg (GRUNT)



Edited 2 time(s). Last edit at 02/11/2017 10:31AM by tnurg.

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Posted by: sparty ( )
Date: February 11, 2017 09:25AM

Leggings and a tasteful pair of riding boots are a look I hope never goes out of style. I absolutely love it. Anyone who says otherwise is a false prophet.

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Posted by: Itzpapalotl ( )
Date: February 11, 2017 10:11AM

That's my staple from late fall to spring. I love leggings, there one of the only types of pants that fit me right and I will kill anyone dead before I give up my motorcycle boots with them. Have 'em in multiple colours and patterns and they are great for layering.

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Posted by: anybody ( )
Date: February 11, 2017 07:14PM


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Posted by: cludgie ( )
Date: February 12, 2017 09:31AM

In DW's "dotage," it is significant that she still has a good body, and has legs that invite men to look. When she's walking away from you, she could still be in her 30's or 40's. At church she wears the "uniform"--skirt below the knee, etc.,(I've begged her to go back to skirts above the knee)--but at home and shopping she still has enough spunk to wear leggings and skinny jeans. So last night at Kroger she wore tight leggings, and we ran into a guy from the bishopric. I observed him looking her over, and hope he doesn't critcise her, because then she'll just run out to Target and buy "mom jeans."

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Posted by: messygoop ( )
Date: February 12, 2017 02:39PM

The fossils were fairly quiet this past GC.

I expect them to edict a new list of do's and don'ts this next round of conference. It wouldn't surprise me if they make the usual jabs at women.

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Posted by: westernwillows ( )
Date: February 12, 2017 03:39PM

The ward I grew up in outside the Morridor, and that my parents still attend, banned leggings for women at church meetings several years ago. I was out long before this, and I assumed it came from church headquarters, but apparently not. The reason was that girls and women who wear leggings to meetings feel like they are wearing pants and are not as reverent.

Although I don't attend, I sometimes have the misfortune of driving past the LDS church in my town on Sundays, and from October to May, most women here wear leggings under their dresses for meetings. I wear leggings with a skirt or dress, or a long, flowing top, on the few occasions that I have to dress professionally. Heck, I've even testified in court as an expert witness wearing leggings as pants and the judge didn't throw me out, so it must have been just fine =)

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Posted by: Birddog ( )
Date: February 12, 2017 04:09PM

I don't understand the ban imposed on adult women. You want to wear leggings wear them. So what if the powers that be tell you not to or frown at you - wear them anyway. They won't forcibly remove you. Being told not to wear them would be my que to wear them every week and sit on the front row.

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Posted by: donbagley ( )
Date: February 12, 2017 07:57PM

The church stands against legs. That is their sexual position.

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Posted by: TheBird ( )
Date: February 12, 2017 08:56PM

Excerpt--Russell M Ballard April 2010 Conference:

"Now may I share a few thoughts with you mothers about the special role you play in your daughters’ lives. We have a family friend who travels often with members of her extended family. Her primary observation after each trip is how much the young women behave like their mothers. If the mothers are thrifty, so are their daughters. If the mothers are modest, so are the girls. If the mothers wear flip-flops and other casual clothing to sacrament meeting, so do their daughters. Mothers, your example is extremely important to your daughters—even if they don’t acknowledge it."

https://www.lds.org/general-conference/2010/04/mothers-and-daughters?lang=eng

So.....why isn't there a ban on those super tight football pants at the Lard's Unifarcity? MONEY!

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Posted by: GNPE ( )
Date: February 13, 2017 02:58PM

IRONIC that the speaker (my link) cites 'good communication' ( between individuals) as a reason not to wear form-fitting clothes!

Meanwhile, tscc prevaricates & downright
LIES to its members...

Beam Me Up, Mr. SCOTT!!!



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 02/13/2017 04:29PM by GNPE.

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